PENALTY SYSTEM IS STILL A PIECE OF ****!!!
- Thread starter Gareth davies
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- London, Ontario
- voodoovaj
I have to say that this is a terribly unclear game requirement. It's not hard to check the car on pit entry and deny them the choice of medium tires if they enter the pit with medium tires. Or, at least highlight hard so that it's more clear that they are required.
THIS is where and AI is needed. Make an AI to be your pit crew chief to make sure you get the right tires, or the right fuel, etc. That's where it's worth creating an AI, not to determine blame on a penalty.
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- Ulricehamn
It's very clearly stated on the page where you see the starting grid position too.
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
It's not clearly stated otherwise there wouldn't be so many people ending up with 20 sec penalties! Not that it mentions anywhere why you got 20 sec or that not complying with the rules (in a corner on a page no one ever looks at) costs you 20 seconds. UI design has never been a strong point of the Gran Turismo series. After nearly two years I finally found where to change my greeting and away message!
- 5,662
- Ulricehamn
OK. I thought it was clearly stated. But I might be the exception then. It's on the right side below the starting grid order, marked with red.
- 630
- United States
No penalty....unless the game gave it to the black car. I did light tap it. I didn’t stay in that race to find out. I quit right after that.
Here’s the video: 1:48:15 mark
- 415
- North Bohemia
No penalty....unless the game gave it to the black car. I did light tap it. I didn’t stay in that race to find out. I quit right after that.
Here’s the video: 1:48:15 mark
The black car did get a penalty (either 1 or 7 seconds). You tapped it and then immediately lost the position, therefore a penalty to the car in the front. Even though you were clearly spun by the car behind you which then received no penalty for it.
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- 3,771
- London, Ontario
- voodoovaj
Does it though?
In the last FIA race I did (GR3 Suzuka) I thought I could do a 1 stop with medium instead of 2 stops with softs. The flashing ring was on the medium option, which was the tire that I had on the car already. I don't believe medium was a requirement because so many people did 3 stints on the soft tire and there were no penalties handed down (to my knowledge).
So, you can see how misleading that could be if it's also meant to show the required option.
- 792
- Canada
I usually just laugh these off but this has got to be in the top 5 worst penalties I've recieved lol. @bloodyboyblue was in the chat as well, he said he was pretty sure we didn't even make contact on his end.
video is timestamped
video is timestamped
- 1,998
- Ontario
- bloodyboyblue
I got a nonsense 4 second penalty in the same race when I lightly tapped the back end of a Corvette just coming out of the fast right hander before the hairpin, way before the braking zone.
Just about every bad penalty I’ve seen has happened with a minor amount of contact in what the game decides is the “braking zone”, ie anywhere within about 500m of a sharpish corner where the AI would start to brake in Beginner GT League races. That seems to be what they’ve used to determine “penalty zones” with an almost zero tolerance policy for any contact within that
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
My first rage quit in ages on the Nord today. Get rammed off, get 5 sec penalty, such BS. Bumping is fully allowed now, just keep bumping the car ahead as much as you like. Report does nothing, reported the same driver 3 races, still keeps bumping and getting matched with me. I guess I need to lower my SR to get away from the dirty bumpers.
- 3,771
- London, Ontario
- voodoovaj
What's so maddening for me is how this got through the various levels of development. Not one producer, test lead, design lead, etc, stepped up and said "This is ridiculous. We can't ship this". If they did, it's extremely disconcerting that it made it's way to release none the less.
How, seriously, HOW did they arrive at this joke of a system? It makes no sense, even in the context of evolution.
HOPEFULLY they next iteration makes sense. If the next update doesn't bring some common sense to the system, I fear this will start the downward spiral of Sport Mode, because...honestly...why play if your SR will be randomly effected. It's actually WORSE than if there were no penalties at all.
killerjimbag
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- The Great White North
- abetterplaya
- 2,219
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- NoStopN
. Why do you continue to play the game? It's actually comical to see the same people complain about it. Put it away and go buy PCars 2. It's on sale.
PC2 might be on sale forever considering Codemasters bought Slightly Mad Studios.
I have no idea how to change my default greeting or statement after a race. I guess I need to go looking.
- 582
- Toronto
Why do you continue to post in this thread? It's actually comical to see someone get so bent over people complaining about a valid issue.
If you're trying to insinuate that we're wasting our time, you're no better than any of us.
Feel free to explore threads of the games you actually play.
killerjimbag
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- abetterplaya
Really? Why does everyone else continue to post in this thread? Which games,AC,PCars1/2,Wreckfest,Nascar Heat 4.So everyone continues to watch a game that continues to kick it self in the arse for 2 years and then complain about it. I was the biggest supporter of PD. Not so much now. Please explain how Kunos,SMS and others that have a pittance of money and resources can do it but PD can't? Tuning is a joke,tire wear is a joke,should I continue? I get it,people like to complain. For PD to continue to screw stuff up is unacceptable. Send off emails or texts to PD.
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- 582
- Toronto
That's fine, I don't love PD either. But ultimately the penalty system is fixable, and not everybody is just going to give up on a game because it isn't perfect.
You're just focused on the complaining with no context. The penalty system is broken, and people want to talk about it, that's what these forums are for. Why is that a problem?
- 2,190
- United Kingdom
- breeminator
- breeminator
GTS is so superior to PC2 and AC in so many ways that it makes much more sense to campaign for improvements to GTS. PC2 and AC will both be getting no updates at all in the future.
- 3,771
- London, Ontario
- voodoovaj
Two reasons, first because the people I like to play with are playing GT Sport and why I should I pay money to move when I paid money for this, and, secondly, the dev team are the ones that broke the game. (Edit, i guess that actually three)
It's like if I bought a car, then that car's maker came by and smashed my car, and you're advocating that I go buy a different car rather than having those who broke my car, fix my car.
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Groundfish
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PC2 for online???
RIIII
So they have dailies I can enter whenever I want and longer races once a week?
RIIII
So they have dailies I can enter whenever I want and longer races once a week?
killerjimbag
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- The Great White North
- abetterplaya
Did you actually just right that. Dude your kidding right. Wow.
killerjimbag
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- 4,018
- The Great White North
- abetterplaya
Delete please mods. My phone is screwing up.
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
It's somewhere in your profile settings where you see the garage photo. I figured out once how to change the garage photo but haven't been able to find it again.
I got one nice clean race in SR.A, 2nd place finish, CRB, but that put me right back in SR.S in front of the bumper pusher nose stick diver. I don't mind the false penalty so much as dirty SR.S drivers gaming the system and coming out with a blue S and no penalty after pit manoevering and bumping cars out of the way. He finally left after I called him out or perhaps he was done after bumping his way to second. The races after were very clean with respect all around. There must be a way to remove the bad apples from SR.S spoiling the races for so many.
Groundfish
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- 4,363
- United States
@killerjimbag
I have the games.
I play GTS
I play DR2
GTS is far far superior to everything else on ps4 to race real people online whenever a person wants.
Livery editor
No stupid flickering from everything alongside track
Rating system
Plenty challenging physics
Tire wear
Screensaver
Consistent quality of driving across available cars
Driving aids track sector by sector breakdown
Videos to assist learning sectors
Pen system
Best graphics
Good cockpit view if setup is good (screen position viewpoint)
No need to buy pc and deal with all those issues
Social media aspect
Shared replays
Shared photos
Etc etc etc
No brainer
The new pens even this new revision I personally have had good luck with, but have seen examples of problems
I have the games.
I play GTS
I play DR2
GTS is far far superior to everything else on ps4 to race real people online whenever a person wants.
Livery editor
No stupid flickering from everything alongside track
Rating system
Plenty challenging physics
Tire wear
Screensaver
Consistent quality of driving across available cars
Driving aids track sector by sector breakdown
Videos to assist learning sectors
Pen system
Best graphics
Good cockpit view if setup is good (screen position viewpoint)
No need to buy pc and deal with all those issues
Social media aspect
Shared replays
Shared photos
Etc etc etc
No brainer
The new pens even this new revision I personally have had good luck with, but have seen examples of problems
