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Yeah because "nitrous oxide" isn't something used in real cars
You know what the inclusion of nitro means in games. It's like racing line in multiplayer.
Permanent damage!
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You know what the inclusion of nitro means in games. It's like racing line in multiplayer.
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- DaveTheStalker
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I used to obsess over it, then decided it actually wasn't important. If I wanted it at it's "peak", I'd put every part on it, too, which I've stopped doing now as well.
You're just as likely to need to use the power limiter anyway, if you're building to a spec, so no it's not necessary unless you treat it as an upgrade like everything else, albeit one that must be periodically renewed. It's "better" (since changing the oil is such a pain already, mostly because of the UI in GT5) to put a horsepower part on, run the car down and then use the limiter to get where you want it and just leave it be.
There is no penalty for not changing the oil, unlike real life, so there technically isn't a need for it. Can we expect the same of the superficial damage in GT6? I think the "services" should be accessible directly from the garage, either way.
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- Neomone
Good RPGs are not mindless clicking. Good RPGs are based around assuming the role of a character or group, hence the name Role Playing Game. There is a sub-group of RPGs that are dedicated to repetition and grinding almost exclusively, and a solid proportion of them that include it to a greater or lesser degree to artificially extend gameplay.
It's poor and lazy design in those games to put time sinks that serve no purpose in front of the player instead of engaging content. The only type of RPG where it's even moderately good design is MMOs with a monthly charge, and even then it's only good design from the perspective of maximising your income while minimising effort.
A game like GT isn't judged by hours played. If a racing game is fun, people will play it forever. It doesn't have a story, it's open ended. At the very least, if it's fun they'll play till they've finished all the single player events, and it's relatively trivial to create 100 hours+ of single player races. Copy/paste from GT4, job done.
There's no need for little time wasting things like this to stretch out the gameplay. A button that should always be clicked is not strategic, it's not clever, the only thing interesting that can happen is that you forget it. And that's not so much interesting as annoying.
Remove this, or design it properly so that not doing it is a choice rather than a mistake. And add good gameplay instead, where the player has a range of choices and has to work to find the optimal one, or to find the best tradeoff of strengths and weaknesses for them.
That's entertaining gameplay, not a Skinner box.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but what would happen if you crash mid race and then pit for repairs? Do you get a bill at the end of the race or are you charged per pit? What if you don't have enough credits for the repairs? How would it work? They've obviously reworked the whole system. Need more info me thinks. Definitely excited about the prospect of permanent damage though. Will really add a new dimension to races (I hope)
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- Szejok666
I personally think this is a great addition. Online rooms for seriously beat'up cars should be interesting, something like old Destruction Derby games . Imagine never repaired old El Camino in matte black with supercharger and too loud exhaust 
. However there should be an option to switch off damage in arcade mode. I also don't think body repair will be that much expensive in the game, from to screenshot we've seen it's only 500 credits for RR Evoque. It may be more expensive for cars like Ferrari 250 GTO, but it is still much, much less than restoring body rigidity and overhauling the engine (30K and 18K for Evoque).
. Imagine never repaired old El Camino in matte black with supercharger and too loud exhaust . However there should be an option to switch off damage in arcade mode. I also don't think body repair will be that much expensive in the game, from to screenshot we've seen it's only 500 credits for RR Evoque. It may be more expensive for cars like Ferrari 250 GTO, but it is still much, much less than restoring body rigidity and overhauling the engine (30K and 18K for Evoque).
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The ones that look for flaws help the developers.
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looks like the SUV has some body damage over the front wheel arch. I think this will be a great addition to the game. Sure it will be tedious but that means more clean race since now there is a penalty. Also the body rigidity is not really an on off option. Sure after few laps the rigidity will be tiny bit off, but not as much as 50,000 miles. Yet should cost the same since its basically same type of work to be done.There. Besides the 'Restore Body Rigidity' function, there is also 'Body Repair'.
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Actually, it looks like every option that existed in GT Auto in GT5 was retained with the same price. IIRC, restoring body rigidity costs half of the price of a new car, and engine restoration something like 30%. They only added 2 things...
- "Improve Body Rigidity" rather than "Restore" at a lower price. (useless, if you ask me)
- "Body Repair", which looks to be at a fixed price of 500 cr. My bet is though that this damage is just cosmetic, so you can just as well leave as it is, if you don't have the cash to repair it.
Plus, they added an information, that shows when rigidity actually declines. That was something nobody could figure out when it actually happens in GT5. That's actually useful, if aging absolutely has to be in the game.
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- solidsnakehm3
ooh another thing i noticed is that there is a small layer of dust and dirt on the tires before the repair, when the car is up on the stand. go to the next image and the tires are much darker in color.
this could be an indication of permanent dust/dirt which would be fantastic.
this could be an indication of permanent dust/dirt which would be fantastic.
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- djslofstra
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- Johnnypenso
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- DawgCCCP
ohh snap, there I go xDMost ironic post of the day..misspelling "retarded"..
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There. Besides the 'Restore Body Rigidity' function, there is also 'Body Repair'.
What is the car on the right ? Impreza ?
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- Rob--M--
Though this damage is terrible, i actually wished they went further towards this than the few dents and scratches we got in the final version of GT5.
It would be hilarious (but also depressing due to the abysmal damage) to see this on the little 'thingy', though.
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- terryparker15
So what you are saying is that NOS is something that people do not use to enhance the performance of their vehicle and you are unable to adjust the view of your screen or your only have one screen?
What are you Saying
I realize that you are new to Gran Turismo but, this series has always been about the cars and getting the maximum out of them. The idea is that if you are good at tuning, you should be able to take a layman's car be able to compete with something that cost many thousands more. PD seems to have taken many steps to recreate the behavior of the individual parts ie suspension and tires/tyres in conjunction with new partners in further enhancing the realism and physics, beyond your standard weight, balance, and drivetrain of the cars. This is of course this is no substitute for a day at the track however, almost all racing drivers in this day in age practice on simulators. Some people have several tens of thousands to spends on theirs some of us unfortunately don't.
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Right, that's an added part in the tuning shop. I didn't see it in that context before, and that explanation makes sense, because it's actually exactly the same cost (20,000 cr.) as in GT5. Could be that they moved it there. That would also be a fixed price then.
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- OriginalCheezIt
GT isn't really necessary either.
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- Traviizter
Coming from someone who's signature is needlessly comparing different genres of racing games, yet stacking them against each other as if they were able to be fairly judged.
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