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Ferrari458Italia
If they release GT6 + PS4 at the same time, then it's a deal for me and I'll most likely buy it no matter what the price or the features of the new playstation is.


But if PS4's price is set too high (over 400), then I'll probably hold off on it for a while.
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You and I both know thats not happenening unless they delay the PS4 for at least a few more years or longer. :lol: As a long time GT fan, I know their track record way too well. GT6 is not coming anytime soon. Not for a couple years. If it does then it wont have 1,000 premium cars.

As for the $400. I will be shocked if its lower than that. $400 or lower would be nice for sure but I am expecting at least $500.00 or higher. If the console is that low then the price of the controllers, and other accessories will make up the difference for sure.
 
Waheed
Cmon guys don't make it a sony vs microsoft thread, talk about ps4
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Oh ok. Well in that case close the thread because we know absolutely nothing about ps4...

Considering a moderator was discussing the pros/cons between the two platform's networks..... I think we're just fine and you need to hush.

Luminis
Didn't he state it? "You get what you pay for". And he's right, I assume. The question is just whether that's worth it to someone or not.
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I was talking about XBOX Live lol.
 
Luminis
Yeah, I got that... I just think that it's the same with hardware: Pay more, get more. Whether that's worth it to someone... Well...
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True.

Tessellated toad tech isn't worth $2,000 to a lot of people lol.

Even less understand what tessellation even is.

But, I am intrigued to see what/if DICE bring to this event....

BF4 is supposedly using much more of FB2's features (might double the suppression effect lmao)... even though on next-gen... probably not running at anything close to BF3 on PC currently.
 
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I would be stunned if sony announce today their new game console, which ever is going to be named PS4 or Orbis. As they stated few weeks earlier that sony will not announce PS4 before Microsoft announces new Xbox.

I'm betting 100$ that won't be today. If that's true so what is going on with all those History lessons on their videos? ohhhh this pressure! :grumpy:
 
Does anyone know if they are streaming this on YouTube through the NA official account? I want to watch it through the PS3 app on the TV. :)
 
ussr
I would be stunned if sony announce today their new game console, which ever is going to be named PS4 or Orbis. As they stated few weeks earlier that sony will not announce PS4 before Microsoft announces new Xbox.
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They're are spending a lot of time and an awful lot of money on this event for it to be anything short of a console announcement.
 
ussr
I would be stunned if sony announce today their new game console, which ever is going to be named PS4 or Orbis. As they stated few weeks earlier that sony will not announce PS4 before Microsoft announces new Xbox.

I'm betting 100$ that won't be today. If that's true so what is going on with all those History lessons on their videos? ohhhh this pressure! :grumpy:
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Deal. I'll forward you my bank account details later.
 
ussr
I would be stunned if sony announce today their new game console, which ever is going to be named PS4 or Orbis. As they stated few weeks earlier that sony will not announce PS4 before Microsoft announces new Xbox.

I'm betting 100$ that won't be today. If that's true so what is going on with all those History lessons on their videos? ohhhh this pressure! :grumpy:
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SimonK
Deal. I'll forward you my bank account details later.
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Toronado
inb4 ludicrous claims thread.
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SimonK
What do you mean?
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Hahaa I think he is talking about the bet that was placed on the GTplanet site about the GTA5 release date. Someone bet $20.00 it would come out by summer 2012. I said no way..... Which I ended up winning... then had to call it out in the ludicrous claim thread because the person would not pay. In other words, if you place a bet, you better be ready to stick to it.

Since I won the last bet I am tempted to jump on this $100.00 bet because I think it will be the PS4 announcement for sure. I could sure use an extra $100.00. :sly:
 
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ussr
I'm betting 100$ that won't be today. If that's true so what is going on with all those History lessons on their videos? ohhhh this pressure! :grumpy:
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Toronado
Because it still isn't free even on PCs. It's just supported in other ways.
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Supported in other ways like advertising? I don't use cloud storage myself but given the amount of capacity that can be got for free, a lot of gigabytes, I think a few hundred MBs should be reasonable for free in the new consoles and potentially might back to current consoles out.

Toronado
$40 says Sony says nothing about the Vita.
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PS Vita 4G might be shown.
 
In all seriousness I can't fathom how someone would be "stunned" if the PS4 was announced at this event, I mean it's not like the hype train hasn't been running at full speed for the last few weeks towards it, particularly the last week with Sony themselves hyping it up.
 
II-zOoLoGy-II
Oh ok. Well in that case close the thread because we know absolutely nothing about ps4...

Considering a moderator was discussing the pros/cons between the two platform's networks..... I think we're just fine and you need to hush.
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Thank you for being so polite about it, bro
 
Saidur_Ali
Its main feature, the Gold subription literally just enables you to do what is on most platforms free to do. What does Gold do so much better than what they do on PC for free?
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And a few its direct competitor can't do or charges for as well.


Saidur_Ali
The big impact was the downtime and the faith in the company. I am confident that Sony must have put a lot of effort to make it much more secure now and others must have learned lessons from it too so better security all aound.
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The big impact was a cost of between $105 and $250 million on top of that as well.

While MS has certainly had issues with hacked accounts its not been even close to the scale or impact that Sony have had, and while I'm 100% sure security has improved the damage is already done.


Saidur_Ali
I still doubt they will charge but if they did charge I guess they will put a lot more value than what Microsoft is currently doing so it won't be as bad a deal.
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A rather huge assumption on your part I believe, but its good to see the predicted back-track starting.

MS charges for on-line and its a rip off and should be free.
Sony do it and it will be of far more value.


Saidur_Ali
There will be still likely be quite a bit of a hit on total number of users gaming online. Sure most would start paying for it as long as it is not some extreme cost in the end.
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My point exactly.


Saidur_Ali
Given the amount of cloud storage you can get for free and features on the web, I don't see why you won't get a small amount of storage for free in future. PC games do it free to an extent.
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No one gives away cloud storage, you may not pay for it directly, but web sites get revenue from it one way or another.

The key point here however is that Sony do charge for it.


Saidur_Ali
You are still paying for stuff that vast majority of its features are free on other platforms.
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As I am for a few features on the PS3.

I don't get exclusive demo access, discounts off games and DLC and cloud storage for free on PSN either.

Sony have already started this process.


Saidur_Ali
Why does Microsoft not charge to use its Live platform on Windows then? They have admitted competition on this doesn't really allow them too. Sony don't have to exceed what Microsoft are, just offer the same level of features and you will see most likely a lot more people going to Sony.
It is worth it for you currently I understand, and that is why they have been able to get away with it for so long but given the margin between PS3 and 360 currrently, imagine when majority of advantages are free now on their rival platform. Microsoft were lucky in that Sony never took them serious enough so never saved space in Game OS for the extra features that 360 XBL Gold users can get but with most likely PS4, they will have a very capable, highly integrated online platform from the get go. It will be less compelling for current 360 users to have to pay for a similar service again if in feature set offers no standing out feature. Worse still if Sony exceeds everything XBL Gold does and does it all for free.
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If and when Sony match PSN you might have a point, but you are missing one very large factor in all this.

Sony needs income and one very easy way of getting it is to charge for on-line access, anyone doesn't think that's a factor quite frankly is not looking at this in the same way Sony have to (as a business).

I do however love the Sony not taking MS serious, are yo honestly that naive?


Saidur_Ali
It is not as simple as that. 360 would have been released similar time as PS3 and would also cost more if it did have Blu-ray. RROD should have also helped in sales department like YLOD so it is not one way only.

At the moment, going by rumours even with next Xbox most likely having Blu-ray drive, I think it will be going back to Xbox 1 levels of success and highly successful period for Sony. I wouldn't put it past Microsoft given what I have seen of Windows 8 regarding design.


It will be interesting to see today what will most likely shape the rest of this decade in regards to gaming.
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While it will be interesting to see what today will bring you would have to be mad to discount MS as a player in the next generation and certainly Sony's track record for the last few console releases don't bode well at all.

Personally (having bought every PS at launch) I want them to turn things around, but they are not just going to get my money blindly. Quite frankly both Sony and MS have brought sold products to the market place this generation, it will be interesting to see if they can do the same again.
 
So getting back to the actual event, where do we think the most reliable stream will be? In the past I've found streams on the gaming sites pretty bad, YouTube live streams are usually pretty solid, is it on there is some form?
 

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