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[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016
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squadops
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I have been thinking that the Elephants will find a way to get the Donald out of the way for some time now, the problem is they don't really have a candidate that can beat the Hillary machine. IMO of course.
There are electable republicans that didn't enter, I would have been for Paul but I knew it was a long shot.
That is why I'm going to just keep repeating the name, Johnson.
There are electable republicans that didn't enter, I would have been for Paul but I knew it was a long shot.
That is why I'm going to just keep repeating the name, Johnson.
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Dotini
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True. Yet he will be on the ballot, affording some the opportunity to vote their conscience.
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Alas, libertarianism is one of best kept secrets in a dyed-in-the-wool two party system.
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I honestly believe that I can convince some of you guys, and others, to...... pull that Johnson when you go behind that magic curtain.
THIS is worth a read for ya all 👍
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
All of it is good, this one in particular gave me a smile.
The threats to privacy in America – from our own government – seem to never end. Does Congress really think they can just stick an ‘oh-by-the-way’ provision in an obscure piece of legislation directing the FAA to clear the way for 30,000 drones to fly over our neighborhoods, and have no one notice?
THIS is worth a read for ya all 👍
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
All of it is good, this one in particular gave me a smile.
The threats to privacy in America – from our own government – seem to never end. Does Congress really think they can just stick an ‘oh-by-the-way’ provision in an obscure piece of legislation directing the FAA to clear the way for 30,000 drones to fly over our neighborhoods, and have no one notice?
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Trump has more or less won the Republican ticket, he lost Ohio(to a candidate that has no chance hat so ever), but won Illinois and Florida which are winner take all and the two biggest states today and is mostly likely to win Missouri which is also a winner take all even though it's really close with Cruz right now.
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The republicans tried to thwart him in Florida with Rubio and Ohio with Kasich. They were successful in half the effort, they did this to slow or make impossible the ability to gain all necessary delegates before the GOP convention. If it goes to the GOP convention (look back Circa 1976 to understand) you can bet that the establishment wont allow a Trump victory. The establishment thinks (like the other party) it knows better than it's voter base, and that not nearly enough of them will switch party lines to vote if the enemy is a democrat.
Problem with that circular reasoning is it's stupid, and leads to them losing elections in the first place that past couple cycles and very possibly a third cycle. It isn't about who won Ohio they don't care, they stopped Trump they make it pretty obvious they don't support him (rather than the secretive DNC) and they'll continue to stop him if needed.
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I'm not really picking any of these candidates to back, because honestly I think they are all a joke. I'm not a democrat or republican.
It just seems to me, if that many people have voted for Trump(no matter what you think of him) and he hasn't locked up the nomination before the convention, don't you think the republicans will have a big mess on their hands if they don't nominate him? I mean the republican parties kind of been a mess, isn't that going to make it that much worse if they go against the majority(by a long shot the way it's looking now), of whom people have been voting for? Someone who has a lot better chance of beating Hillary then anyone they could come up with?
I'm in no way endorsing Trump, I'm just curious on what you guys think of that.
It just seems to me, if that many people have voted for Trump(no matter what you think of him) and he hasn't locked up the nomination before the convention, don't you think the republicans will have a big mess on their hands if they don't nominate him? I mean the republican parties kind of been a mess, isn't that going to make it that much worse if they go against the majority(by a long shot the way it's looking now), of whom people have been voting for? Someone who has a lot better chance of beating Hillary then anyone they could come up with?
I'm in no way endorsing Trump, I'm just curious on what you guys think of that.
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At this rate, he will have the Delegates before the Convention so if that happens they can't do anything.
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When you have a non Establishment candidate win it exposes the party, if you get two non establishment candidates it exposes the system.I'm not really picking any of these candidates to back, because honestly I think they are all a joke. I'm not a democrat or republican.
It just seems to me, if that many people have voted for Trump(no matter what you think of him) and he hasn't locked up the nomination before the convention, don't you think the republicans will have a big mess on their hands if they don't nominate him? I mean the republican parties kind of been a mess, isn't that going to make it that much worse if they go against the majority(by a long shot the way it's looking now), of who people have been voting for? Someone who has a lot better chance of beating Hillary then anyone they could come up with?
who understand
I'm in no way endorsing Trump, I'm just curious on what you guys think of that.
American politics is rigged and most people who understand the politics understand it.
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They protect what they deem to be correct, that's all it is. They don't mind being hated by a few constituents.
They protect what they deem to be correct, that's all it is. They don't mind being hated by a few constituents.
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Not if he has close fights with Cruz to the end. If Cruz keeps taking some delegates from each state he loses Trump many still have difficulty finding the rest. At least the math from media sources seems to hint at this.
However, as this shows it could also benefit Trump since Kasich is probably not going anywhere
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/u...ps-loss-in-ohio-may-have-been-a-win.html?_r=0
This was the point I was trying to make and saw after Kasich's won and this is before I found the Vox article that explains it better than I can.
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/15/11224592/john-kasich
It's no surprise to me that the RNC would do this, hell they were unsure many times in recent history on their nominees and how much they fully encompasses what the RNC (not the American people) wants. I'm not saying Trump is better but they're doing plenty to hang themselves to dry and Kasich is a last ditch effort to put this into an overtime they control and not Trump's popularity.
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Good question. For my own part, it hardly matters. I'm old, wealthy, happy in every way and no candidate's victory is going to affect my life in any practical way. For the previous six presidential elections I've voted my conscience - which has been something other than a Democrat or Republican. However, in the present election we are confronted with the imminent destruction of the Republican party, and US citizens have a real choice: For stasis (more of the same) vote Democrat, presumably Hillary if she's not indicted, and let the Republicans fix their problems in the wilderness. For change, vote Republican - Cruz or Trump, whoever is ahead, and throw the party and the nation into the crucible of transformative change. A Trump/Cruz ticket or a Trump/Kasich ticket might well win the general election against the damaged Clinton, and provide a thrill ride for a new generation seeking the repatriation of jobs and monies both parties have been sending abroad since GATT, WTO, NAFTA and ensuing trade deals begun decades ago.
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Or the equipment's fault. I bought all new clubs last year though, not sure what to blame this season
They need breaking in, that's all.
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To the 19.5% who voted for Trump, could you please tell me exactly WHY you want him to be POTUS? I've asked some of my acquaintances who are Trump supporters, and all they told me was "Trump will build a wall, that's most important." They didn't really have a clue.
I actually need coherent sentences, please.
I actually need coherent sentences, please.
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Trump/Kasich is an interesting prospect. The danger for Kasich (or anyone else running with Trump) is that if the ticket fails to win, the running mate will be cast into political humiliation & oblivion.
"a thrill ride for a new generation seeking the repatriation of jobs and monies both parties have been sending abroad since GATT, WTO, NAFTA and ensuing trade deals begun decades ago."
The free-trade genie is thoroughly out of the bottle, there's no stuffing it back in at this point without catastrophic consequences for the world economy.
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