[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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But then if you eat at Jimmy John's you support his questionable hunting practices, right? There's always an argument for avoiding just about any place of business.

I mean I could stop drinking coke for the same reason, since they extort good water source in poor nations that lack them to begin with to make their product and sell it for a premium. But then again I like Coke and Coke products, I mean it becomes one of those things where you nit pick everything other people do, soon you might as well produce your own crap.

I just find it hilarious that people will go out of their way to say stupid things like "I'm going to move away if Trump is elected" or "I aint buying this or that cause Hillary was sponsored by it"...like where was your moral high horse before they became the two "Greatest" candidates on earth?
 
Which makes it all the more funny when Family guy do multiples episodes of it.
Eh, I never found anything by Seth MacFarlane to be particularly funny. Although I did have a dentist named Peter Griffin who was so bad that he nearly gave me cancer (true story - he repeatedly missed something in my check-ups that, if left untreated, could have become cancerous).
 
Eh, I never found anything by Seth MacFarlane to be particularly funny. Although I did have a dentist named Peter Griffin who was so bad that he nearly gave me cancer (true story - he repeatedly missed something in my check-ups that, if left untreated, could have become cancerous).

Where's my ba-dum-ch gif? Oh that was serious, then I'm sorry for that good think you stopped going once you found out it was a real life Peter Griffin and not some surreal coincidence.

Gary Johnson discusses the upcoming debate.


I mean it's Morning Joe, probably the biggest collective of over paid good looking journalist on TV. I remember watching an episode on youtube with Russel Brand on the show, talk about making everyone wish they called into work sick that day, he made them all look foolish and awkward.
 
I'm sorry for that good think you stopped going once you found out it was a real life Peter Griffin and not some surreal coincidence.
It was more of a surreal coincide - I stopped going to his practice before "Family Guy" was broadcast. But I am not convinced that MacFarlane wasn't inspired by him.
 
It was more of a surreal coincide - I stopped going to his practice before "Family Guy" was broadcast. But I am not convinced that MacFarlane wasn't inspired by him.

There may be a collective of idiots named Peter Griffin you just met one in the line of hundreds across the globe.
 
I mean it's Morning Joe, probably the biggest collective of over paid good looking journalist on TV.
Gary Johnson wasn't being interviewed by or for Morning Joe. He was being interviewed by an MSNBC political corespondent.

Gary Johnson was just being Gary Johnson.
 
Gary Johnson wasn't being interviewed by or for Morning Joe. He was being interviewed by an MSNBC political corespondent.

Gary Johnson was just being Gary Johnson.

That happened to talk about it and see it broadcast on Morning Joe...? And then have it analyzed (slightly) and broken down as silly by Morning Joe? Gary Johnson was being up front, that the political s*** storm being evoked by an orange ape with implanted hair, and a crow that wobbles while having diarrhea at the mouth, can easily be challenged by similar goofiness despite actual political merit. In fact it so laughable that he could talk like a moron biting his tongue and still get backing if he was simply allowed to debate.

Now to be honest, I don't care for Johnson so much as I did before after seeing his policies, and in fact don't plan to vote for him. But he does make a point in the joke this is and tries to bring that across, of course people rooted in Trump (as you are) or Hillary (as the correspondent for a Hillary campaign contributor is) will see it as just a weirdo third party candidate doing his bit until the stop watch says his time is up.
 
That happened to talk about it and see it broadcast on Morning Joe...? And then have it analyzed (slightly) and broken down as silly by Morning Joe? Gary Johnson was being up front, that the political s*** storm being evoked by an orange ape with implanted hair, and a crow that wobbles while having diarrhea at the mouth, can easily be challenged by similar goofiness despite actual political merit. In fact it so laughable that he could talk like a moron biting his tongue and still get backing if he was simply allowed to debate.

Now to be honest, I don't care for Johnson so much as I did before after seeing his policies, and in fact don't plan to vote for him. But he does make a point in the joke this is and tries to bring that across, of course people rooted in Trump (as you are) or Hillary (as the correspondent for a Hillary campaign contributor is) will see it as just a weirdo third party candidate doing his bit until the stop watch says his time is up.
I never said I don't like Gary Johnson. I find him to be very likable in a nerdy kind of way. That is what I meant with the him being him remark. I agree with many of his policies.

I have always wished that we had fiscally conservative, but socially liberal leadership in this country.

Things have changed now. The New Republicans are taking charge of the Grand Old Party. They don't care so much about social issues. Gay marriage is no longer an issue. Gay conservative activists like Milo, are welcomed by the new Republican party.

Yes, you are right, I do support the orange faced big mouth.

His tax proposals alone are enough for my support. Cut out all of the tax breaks for companies that do what the government wants, and lower the tax rates for everyone else. That will make sure companys like GE pay their fair share.
 
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From my personal experience liberals tend to be arts, communications, biology, science, gender studies, and history majors. Whereas conservatives tend to be businessmen, engineers, lawyers, and doctors. Quite a huge contrast in study philosophy. Tomorrow we got Mrs. Seizures vs the Orange businessman. One's pushing an agenda, the other pushing for 'True' unity in America. America is either going to get a reality check or wake up call. If a nation caters to stupidity and emotions; it'll collapse. As a kid from legal immigrant parents, I know the struggles of succeeding but that didn't stop my dad or me or any of my family from all attaining degrees from reputable schools, people need to stop being soft and suck it up. America's core ideology should always be a nation that rewards those that work their a** off not a nation that gives free giveaways for popping out babies like jiffy popcorn. So I know the damn struggles, but I also know the rewards if you work your d**n butt off.
 
Apparently, we have Early Returns already in this election. However, these numbers mean nothing until November 8:

Florida
Donald Trump (R) - 15
Hillary Clinton (D) - 26
Third Party (4 candidates, barring any write-ins) - 5

However, a Pro-Trump twitter account is claiming that he has a 120,000 vote lead in the state. (source)

However, here is what the Florida Division of Elections has to say on the subject:

Disclaimer: Early voting and vote-by-mail ballot request totals are based on county reports last filed by the supervisor of elections for that county. Totals reflect all active registered voters since many counties also have local nonpartisan races and issues on the ballot for which all active registered voters, regardless of party affiliation or no party affiliation, may vote. For the most up-to-date early voting and vote-by-mail ballot request information, please contact the respective supervisor of elections directly, as the individual supervisor may have more up-to-date activity.

Trump simply has more Republicans requesting absentee ballots in the state, nothing more. This is actually a common trend since the military tends to vote Republican more often than Democrat.
 
I never said I don't like Gary Johnson. I find him to be very likable in a nerdy kind of way. That is what I meant with the him being him remark. I agree with many of his policies.

It's a critique of why you posted it, not a claim that you posted it because you dislike the guy. You could like him, you just don't like him more than your option A.

I have always wished that we had fiscally conservative, but socially liberal leadership in this country.

He's not so much that though...I wouldn't really stress him as the to go to libertarian either, rather the only one claiming to be such. Let's be honest, he's not the second coming of Paul.

Things have changed now. The New Republicans are taking charge of the Grand Old Party. They don't care so much about social issues. Gay marriage is no longer an issue. Gay conservative activists like Milo, are welcomed by the new Republican party.

Seems like one still...I mean sure he's welcomed because he doesn't sound like he's homosexual in the way he views politics. He's quite blunt with his actions and thus makes even those who supported for gay rights on the left, wish he didn't exist at times. Kind of like how people on the right wish Elizabeth Warren would go away.

Yes, you are right, I do support the orange faced big mouth.

I know you didn't need to verify again, I'm aware of who is for who out of the frequent posters here.

His tax proposals alone are enough for my support. Cut out all of the tax breaks for companies that do what the government wants, and lower the tax rates for everyone else. That will make sure companys like GE pay their fair share.

Yeah I don't see it. Considering even with tax breaks companies still find loop holes in the code, to save money. If it means off shore stuff or whatever else have you, it's not that simple. And I'm surprised a guy like Trump with that business knowledge sees it as such.]

From my personal experience liberals tend to be arts, communications, biology, science, gender studies, and history majors. Whereas conservatives tend to be businessmen, engineers, lawyers, and doctors. Quite a huge contrast in study philosophy. Tomorrow we got Mrs. Seizures vs the Orange businessman. One's pushing an agenda, the other pushing for 'True' unity in America. America is either going to get a reality check or wake up call. If a nation caters to stupidity and emotions; it'll collapse. As a kid from legal immigrant parents, I know the struggles of succeeding but that didn't stop my dad or me or any of my family from all attaining degrees from reputable schools, people need to stop being soft and suck it up. America's core ideology should always be a nation that rewards those that work their a** off not a nation that gives free giveaways for popping out babies like jiffy popcorn. So I know the damn struggles, but I also know the rewards if you work your d**n butt off.

Never met a conservative engineer to be honest and science usually tends to coincide with engineers and those guys unless you want to hit specifics aren't easily one or the other either. I'm not saying they don't exist, but it's not run of the mill as you put it. If I ask people going through engineering with me right now and people I'm friends with working in the industry...most don't care and see both like I do. Cause using logic to analyze the narrative you get the same result, failure and engineers don't like that.
 
I stopped eating Subway because the quality of their meat turned to complete and utter crap. The new Chicken tasted like rubber. Subway began using different meat distributors and ordered the low quality stuff for their establishments (as if I needed another reason after Jared Fondle). JJ, Jersey Mikes, and Quiznos are all way better anyway, I do not miss Subway at all.

Enjoy the debates tonight for those bothering, I won't be watching that trash, I'll be busy with Soccer practice anyway. I could DVR it, then again I could also watch paint dry.
 
In a way, the presidential debates remind me of the Monaco GP, with Clinton ahead but struggling for traction (read: winning voters' trust) to get away from a Trump with so much momentum that FiveThirtyEight give him at least a 44.8% chance of winning, but I can't see him overtaking her without a big mistake on her part, just like a race at Monaco.

I remember that Obama messed up the first of the 2012 debates against Romney, but was able to win the last two and eventually a second term.
 
Hard to compare to last election though, as Obama didn't have Clintons unfavourability and Romney didn't have enthusiastic support unlike Trump with his Supporters.

That could be an interesting drinking game -- one person takes a drink every time Trump lies, and another takes a drink every time Clinton lies. See who passes out first.

Both will be in the ER after the first opening speeches.
 
I say who ever is going to win is probably going to make the Economy tank "again"
I don't like either of them as I would vote for Jesse Ventura. :lol:
Either way, there is no real hindsite in this just that we have to deal with it for 4 years.
 
Yeah Hillary is getting ruined on trade if we are going by the facts.

We all know she supports TPP and Trump nailed her on it.
 
Hilary isn't very good at zingers. She keeps trying to toss them out at Trump and he's turning them around on her way too easily.
 
She's right about trickle-down economics, though. It doesn't work.
Doesn't matter if she's right or not. By all logic she should have put him away by now, and she keeps trying to throw barbs at him instead and they aren't nearly as clever as she thinks they sound.
 
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