[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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Are workers for political parties forced to vote for that party they work for?
By law, no. Democracy are on the constitution.

By organizational, depends. Though the fact that many Republicans opposed to Trump makes this passable.
 
Not sufficient to bring charges, so what do you know of that is sufficient to make the question laughable?

I've asked quite politely a number of times and yet none has been provided.
What exactly do you want for proof?
1000's of emails and her lying live on TV ain't enough?
We have a sailor who took a few selfies in a submarine, he's doing a year for taking a frickin selfies. They were pretty harmless pics but the inside of the submarine is considered classified.
Hillary has done far worse than that about being careless with classified information, including having her maid print them for her. When did maids get security clearance?

You should see what my wife goes through just cleaning up after government workers. She can't even have her phone on her!

Anyways, in 12 hours the first sets of polls will be closing. Good luck America and hopefully we can get this corrupt sell out in jail. And get over this useless bickering. This is going in circles just like her case.
Evidence, evidence, evidence; emails, emails, emails; not guilty not guilty not guilty; but she is she is she is. She's lied to your face, can't help it if you don't see it.

#neverhillary
#lockherup
#draintheswamp
 
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What exactly do you want for proof?
1000's of emails and her lying live on TV ain't enough?

The FBI says not, and you need to say why keeping them in-house was more/less secure.

We have a sailor who took a few selfies in a submarine, he's doing a year for taking a frickin selfies. They were pretty harmless pics...

Yup, sounds harmless.

...but the inside of the submarine is considered classified.

Oh.

Hillary has done far worse than that about being careless with classified information, including having her maid print them for her. When did maids get security clearance?

When they worked for the Secretary of State? With the access that a maid has to private areas of the secretary's house I'd think that printing some emails which may-or-may-not have been eventually classified is pretty small beer.

You should see what my wife goes through just cleaning up after government workers. She can't even have her phone on her!

Wrong clearance, you see?

Anyways, in 12 hours the first sets of polls will be closing. Good luck America and hopefully we can get this corrupt sell out in jail.

I doubt it, the people who he effectively stole from during his multiple bankruptcies haven't managed to put him there yet.
 
They say 1 in 3 odds for a cyber attack - not good!

But if there is one, we have the capability of a cyber attack against Russia. Link includes videos.

"U.S. officials have delivered a back channel warning to Russia not to do anything that would affect the vote. But there are widespread fears that cyber mischief by hackers, either from Russia or elsewhere, will somehow mar the election.

There are limits to what the U.S. government's cyber force can do to protect American networks, most of which are owned by private companies. But the Pentagon's cyber command has the capacity to retaliate in the event of a major attack on critical infrastructure."


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/20...k-protect-election-hack-say-officials-n679271


'All Hands on Deck' to Protect Election From Hack, Say Officials

by KEN DILANIAN, WILLIAM M. ARKIN, ROBERT WINDREM and CYNTHIA MCFADDEN
2016-11-08t00-47-47-233z--1280x720.nbcnews-ux-1240-700.jpg

Feds on High Alert for Possible Election Day Cyber Attacks1:46

The U.S. government is gearing up for an unprecedented effort to protect Tuesday's presidential election from cyber attack, U.S. officials told NBC News.

"There are a lot of eyes on this presidential election — more than there normally would be," a senior Obama administration official said.

Cyber centers at the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and the FBI — as well as the Pentagon, the CIA and other intelligence agencies — will be on alert, with extra staff hunting for any possible threat, officials say.

The concern is so high, intelligence officials told NBC, that for the first time, hundreds of military and intelligence cyber experts who work out of top secret facilities, including underground bunkers, will be monitoring intelligence about a U.S. presidential election. They will react to any threat to the federal government's communication and command systems.
 
What exactly do you want for proof?
1000's of emails and her lying live on TV ain't enough?
We have a sailor who took a few selfies in a submarine, he's doing a year for taking a frickin selfies. They were pretty harmless pics but the inside of the submarine is considered classified.
Hillary has done far worse than that about being careless with classified information, including having her maid print them for her. When did maids get security clearance?

You should see what my wife goes through just cleaning up after government workers. She can't even have her phone on her!

Anyways, in 12 hours the first sets of polls will be closing. Good luck America and hopefully we can get this corrupt sell out in jail. And get over this useless bickering. This is going in circles just like her case.
Evidence, evidence, evidence; emails, emails, emails; not guilty not guilty not guilty; but she is she is she is. She's lied to your face, can't help it if you don't see it.

#neverhillary
#lockherup
#draintheswamp
The FBI seem to disagree with you (twice), however the double standard you seem to hold is huge.

Trump has a track record of destroying email (in the face of court orders), lying to federal investigators, lying to the American people live on air and inviting a foreign power to hack the US.

Now despite the clear evidence of the above he also has never been charged either. Yet you give him a free pass and demand the jailing of his opponent.

That I'm sure you will utterly fail to see the hypocrisy and come up with an excuse as to why it's OK for one and not the other will not surprise me in the least.
 
Since Trump is a master when it comes to corruption of all natures (or if you prefer here, or here), its hard for me to see your stance as more than a convenient partisan absolution.

Anyway, corruption is not the main concern when it comes to holding nuclear weapon use decision (a decision that can't be contested, he/she indeed have this power). My concern has a lot more to do with the fact that his own staff is (rightly) concerned about his capacity to refrain doing something impulsive, and that the situation occurred in the past where the crucial decision, to release or not the nuclear hell, have entered the last few minutes window - and that it occurred at night at an hour Trump pro bully people on Twitter.
The bottom line, though, is that I will be voting in the election today and you will not.
 
I doubt it, the people who he effectively stole from during his multiple bankruptcies haven't managed to put him there yet.
I see what you did there:sly:
Isn't that the point of filing bankruptcy? You spend too much money, banks and people start calling you, you file for bankruptcy, you don't have to pay them if you win. Welcome to America, where it is legal to spend more than you have and screw someone over in the end
Trump has a track record of destroying email (in the face of court orders), lying to federal investigators, lying to the American people live on air and inviting a foreign power to hack the US.
But did anything he destroy during his investigation include top secret, classified, government information? Apples and oranges as y'all like to say.
The FBI seem to disagree with you (twice), however the double standard you seem to hold is huge.
You know exactly why Comey won't do anything to Hillary. It's been discussed and links have been provided.
It is, I won't deny that. It's cause someone named Hillary has been living off of our tax dollars for the last 3 decades and hasn't done much about nothing, do you need a link for that? One thing you can't say about Trump.
He also wants to start term limits for the house and senate. Which is a very good thing, get more career politicians out of office that sit around and do much about nothing, while complaining to the American people they need more time off with their families(they only work 180 days a year, now they only want to work 90.)do you need a link for that?
This is a lot bigger than Trump. I've criticized him and mocked him and I've never said he was perfect.

I'd be interested to read a few links about Trump if you have them, not that it's going to change my vote, cause I can't. But I'm always down to learn something.
 
Here's a talk by a man I admire gretly. He asks some very pertinent questions to some people who should be asking these questions themselves.

Gowdy is a charlatan. His "very pertinent" questions have been asked and answered, what, eight times now? And he's still throwing a fit because reality doesn't match the wingnut conspiracy in his head. That man is a joke.

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They say 1 in 3 odds for a cyber attack - not good!

Donald? Is that you? Did you hijack Dotini's GTP account after your babysitter took your Twitter away from you?

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Isn't that the point of filing bankruptcy? You spend too much money, banks and people start calling you, you file for bankruptcy, you don't have to pay them if you win. Welcome to America, where it is legal to spend more than you have and screw someone over in the end

Isn't Trump's whole appeal that he's supposedly a genius business man? Now you've essentially acknowledged that he's not. What else is there to like?

It's cause someone named Hillary has been living off of our tax dollars for the last 3 decades and hasn't done much about nothing, do you need a link for that?

Yes.
 
He also wants to start term limits for the house and senate. Which is a very good thing, get more career politicians out of office that sit around and do much about nothing, while complaining to the American people they need more time off with their families(they only work 180 days a year, now they only want to work 90.)do you need a link for that?

What else is there to like?
That big part you missed. And don't forget they approve their own raises. Time for them to go!

Now I'm done, I can't change my vote, whoever is voting for whoever, is not going to change their minds now.
So as I said good luck America!
 
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Two of Washington state's 12 electors now say they may not vote for Clinton, no matter the popular vote, which should be overwhelmingly for Clinton in this state. They were originally for Bernie, but I do not know for whom they may cast their votes in the Electoral College. 157 faithless electoral votes have been cast in the history of the Electoral College.
 
Two of Washington state's 12 electors now say they may not vote for Clinton, no matter the popular vote, which should be overwhelmingly for Clinton in this state. They were originally for Bernie, but I do not know for whom they may cast their votes in the Electoral College. 157 faithless electoral votes have been cast in the history of the Electoral College.
Has a faithless elector ever determined the outcome of an election before?
 
Has a faithless elector ever determined the outcome of an election before?
I can't say for sure, but to my knowledge they have not. Not even close.

I have no idea how close today's election is going to be. two votes might make difference. But if it came down to the crunch, enormous pressures would be exerted on these two publicity hounds.
 
Good luck America!! It won't be the same after today, one way or the other, just don't burn the place down if your candidate doesn't win:sly: A bunch of us interested Canucks are gathering at a friend's house, about 5 minutes from the border. Most of us drive trucks of one sort or another and we're ready to go and block the bridge in case of a mass exodus. Maple syrup, back bacon and Molson Canadian will be served to those making it to the blockade. :cheers: If you're from GTP, hold up a sign with your name on it, you might get a special dispensation, depending on your posting history of course:gtplanet:

(@Dotini, I'm in the black Denali:sly:)
 
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It's funny to think that this time tomorrow Donald Trump will either be the most powerful individual on Earth or relegated back to the two-bit reality TV semi-personality he was before the election, destined for nothing more accomplished than a spot of 'I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here' or similar. It's a strange world we live in.
 
It's funny to think that this time tomorrow Donald Trump could be the most powerful individual on Earth or relegated back to the two-bit reality TV semi-personality he was before the election, destined for nothing more accomplished than a spot of 'I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here' or similar. It's a strange world we live in.
Depending on how bad his loss, he may be in position to remain the head of the Republican Party and more importantly, the vast movement that carried him here like Forrest Gump. But no matter what happens to Trump, his movement seems destined to persist until economic times improve for them.
 
Good luck America!! It won't be the same after today, one way or the other, just don't burn the place down if your candidate doesn't win:sly: A bunch of us interested Canucks are gathering at a friend's house, about 5 minutes from the border. Most of us drive trucks of one sort or another and we're ready to go and block the bridge in case of a mass exodus. Maple syrup, back bacon and Molson Canadian will be served to those making it to the blockade. :cheers: If you're from GTP, hold up a sign with your name on it, you might get a special dispensation, depending on your posting history of course:gtplanet:

(@Dotini, I'm in the black Denali:sly:)
I'd love to join y'all! If I'm allowed:D Seriously though there's no way I can get there tonight with my poor work van:(
 
It's funny to think that this time tomorrow Donald Trump will either be the most powerful individual on Earth or relegated back to the two-bit reality TV semi-personality he was before the election, destined for nothing more accomplished than a spot of 'I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here' or similar. It's a strange world we live in.

I don't know.........if Trump loses by a narrow margin, he successfully creates the narrative that the election was stolen from him (literally or otherwise), and he proceeds to rail against an unpopular Clinton presidency (perhaps in the form of his own TV network if the rumours are to be believed) - will his die-hard supporters desert him, or will they simply vote for him to be the Republican nominee again in 2020?
 
Good luck America!! It won't be the same after today, one way or the other, just don't burn the place down if your candidate doesn't win:sly: A bunch of us interested Canucks are gathering at a friend's house, about 5 minutes from the border. Most of us drive trucks of one sort or another and we're ready to go and block the bridge in case of a mass exodus. Maple syrup, back bacon and Molson Canadian will be served to those making it to the blockade. :cheers: If you're from GTP, hold up a sign with your name on it, you might get a special dispensation, depending on your posting history of course:gtplanet:

(@Dotini, I'm in the black Denali:sly:)

On a slightly different note. What is border control like between Canada and the US? Can you just pass through like in the Schengen Area or is there and fence and passport control and security dogs etc.?
 
On a slightly different note. What is border control like between Canada and the US? Can you just pass through like in the Schengen Area or is there and fence and passport control and security dogs etc.?
It's a fully armed border control on both sides with gates, passports required etc. Everyone gets stopped, no one gets waved through. Being pulled over for further inspection by agents and dogs is not uncommon. We're separated by the Detroit River and you can get over by bridge or tunnel. Busiest border crossing between our two countries and one of the busier crossings in the world.
 
On a slightly different note. What is border control like between Canada and the US? Can you just pass through like in the Schengen Area or is there and fence and passport control and security dogs etc.?

While it is evidently rather different on the other side of the Great Lakes, to cross over at the Buffalo side you're stopped for about as long as you are at a toll booth. Give them your enhanced driver's licence or passport, they look in the vehicle to make sure everyone in the car is on the papers and you're good to go. It's barely any different than it was pre-9/11.
 
It's a fully armed border control on both sides with gates, passports required etc. Everyone gets stopped, no one gets waved through. Being pulled over for further inspection by agents and dogs is not uncommon. We're separated by the Detroit River and you can get over by bridge or tunnel. Busiest border crossing between our two countries and one of the busier crossings in the world.

While it is evidently rather different on the other side of the Great Lakes, to cross over at the Buffalo side you're stopped for about as long as you are at a toll booth. Give them your enhanced driver's licence or passport, they look in the vehicle to make sure everyone in the car is on the papers and you're good to go. It's barely any different than it was pre-9/11.

Is it like this both ways or just on entry to the US?
 
They say 1 in 3 odds for a cyber attack - not good!

But if there is one, we have the capability of a cyber attack against Russia. Link includes videos.

"U.S. officials have delivered a back channel warning to Russia not to do anything that would affect the vote. But there are widespread fears that cyber mischief by hackers, either from Russia or elsewhere, will somehow mar the election.

There are limits to what the U.S. government's cyber force can do to protect American networks, most of which are owned by private companies. But the Pentagon's cyber command has the capacity to retaliate in the event of a major attack on critical infrastructure."


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/20...k-protect-election-hack-say-officials-n679271


'All Hands on Deck' to Protect Election From Hack, Say Officials

by KEN DILANIAN, WILLIAM M. ARKIN, ROBERT WINDREM and CYNTHIA MCFADDEN
2016-11-08t00-47-47-233z--1280x720.nbcnews-ux-1240-700.jpg

Feds on High Alert for Possible Election Day Cyber Attacks1:46

The U.S. government is gearing up for an unprecedented effort to protect Tuesday's presidential election from cyber attack, U.S. officials told NBC News.

"There are a lot of eyes on this presidential election — more than there normally would be," a senior Obama administration official said.

Cyber centers at the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and the FBI — as well as the Pentagon, the CIA and other intelligence agencies — will be on alert, with extra staff hunting for any possible threat, officials say.

The concern is so high, intelligence officials told NBC, that for the first time, hundreds of military and intelligence cyber experts who work out of top secret facilities, including underground bunkers, will be monitoring intelligence about a U.S. presidential election. They will react to any threat to the federal government's communication and command systems.

I'm more concerned about physical terror attacks at polling places.
 
In my experience the difference is that to enter the US by car usually takes about 90 seconds of sitting at the booth instead of the 60 seconds to enter Canada. There's probably differences in what the border patrol guys actually do between countries like with whatever databases are checked or whatever, and me entering the US is likely a little different than Johnnypenso entering, but the difference in treatment on the traveler's end is probably something you'd only notice if you had been looking for it.
 
Simpsons reference if Trump wins:

"Your guilty conscience may move you to vote Democratic, but deep down you long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king."


Simpsons reference if Clinton wins:

"You don't have the intelligence to rig an election, do you?!"

"ENOUGH! Lies, lies, lies! I did it! I did it all! [the crowd gasps] There! Is that what you want, you smarmy little bastards?! [...] The point is only I could have executed such a masterpiece of electoral fraud and I have the records to prove it! Just look at these! [pulls out a number of ledgers and floppy disks] Each one a work of Machiavellian art!"

Whichever candidate wins tomorrow:

 
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I'm looking forward to see how many people actually are going to vote 3rd party.

Gary Johnson may have a slender chance in New Mexico considering he is a former governor but nationwide I would guess at... some, but not enough.
 
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