[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

So in a presidential election thread, I'm not allowed to stick up for the person I am voting for? (and a majority of others here as evidence by the current poll numbers at the top of this thread)

No it fine, no one said you weren't, but if you're going to come across ass/facetious like when people make a concise representation on why they think candidate x is going to lose to candidate y then people will go to bat at you. People are going to openly challenge you because of clear subjective reasoning that you put forth rather than questioning Touring on why that is further and debating the topic.

With who's spare time? Mine that I don't have?

Merely a suggestion, based on your time spent here, but I understand.

 

[Com Fox]

Not sure if this is posted before but this is an interesting theory on how Donald Trump could be doing so well in the election:



Granted I don't agree with it all but some of it makes sense.

 

[CodeRedR51]

No it fine, no one said you weren't, but if you're going to come across ass/facetious like when people make a concise representation on why they think candidate x is going to lose to candidate y then people will go to bat at you. People are going to openly challenge you because of clear subjective reasoning that you put forth rather than questioning Touring on why that is further and debating the topic.

I just don't get it when someone comes in and is like "he's got no chance, blah, blah" when that's not 100% true. Their opinion, fine. Fact, no.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I just don't get it when someone comes in and is like "he's got no chance, blah, blah" when that's not 100% true. Their opinion, fine. Fact, no.

Where is anyone touting fact, they're taking educated guesses based on pole numbers and trends, something you and I've both done. The only difference comes down to objective or sometimes subjective reasoning based on that information.

The in-between is all of us here debating (squabbling) who is better for the nation and the world, based on other bits or reasoning. If someone explicitly says, that they know for sure who is going to win most of us would be right with you on jumping down their throat over it.

 

[squadops]

Because every time someone asks you to actually explain something you give a load of cryptic nonsense.

That is not so, sorry if I expect people to think just a little bit. The reason there is a backing for Bernie is the same reason there is a backing for Donald, people on both sides of the isle are voicing there discontent with the establishment, neither one is electable and we all know that. I guess at the end of the day we shall have another Clinton.

My point was, why get into a tizzy and back someone who is 1/2 baked? At least the supporters of both Pauls have a sense of conviction.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights

That's hard to argue with.

Although, I'm not in the military and don't exactly understand why they can't carry on base. I feel like they should be able to carry issued weapons on base for defense purposes and obviously turn them in when they leave base because they're government property. What do you guys think about that?

That is interesting, I've done extensive contract work on air force bases as well as other federal bases. The only ones who are armed are the police, they are not normal police mind you.

I cannot see one of these facilities being attacked from the outside and I'm sure they have some sort of plan in place however, they are big places with many people about which makes your question legitimate to me. I say, let them have arms, I've never seen a crime committed on one though

There is a sort of unspoken respect on them, it's hard to explain.

 

[A2K78]

So Romney simply wasn't the right kind of businessman? That rather spluttering, cross-eyed article explains (as Proof, no less) that Romney wasn't a businessman. It then goes on to describe his business. I felt equally cross-eyed by the end of the piece.

Romney is just another crony captital/neoconservative....

Anyhow just wow and I say this because on these idiot just equated Trump with Adolf Hilter for wanting to put up a border wall. What I even find funny is how of the host on the View once declared Hitler a Christian, something historians and even those who close to him disagree on....

Now I'm no fan of Trump or a border, but the Hitler comparison is pretty stupid. I wonder if they would've said the same thing about Cesar Chavez very proponent of a border of a border wall.

 

[squadops]

Trump to Hitler

 

[CodeRedR51]

Reminds me of the images floating around from this past weekend when he asked the supporters at his rally to raise their right hand and promise to vote for him. Funny how close it looked to a Nazi solute.

 

[squadops]

He has no where near the charisma or violent tendencies however. It's a laughable comparison.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Reminds me of the images floating around from this past weekend when he asked the supporters at his rally to raise their right hand and promise to vote for him. Funny how close it looked to a Nazi solute.

I guess every student that ever asked a question or anyone that ever swore on a bible reminds you of a Nazi too

 

[CodeRedR51]

What?

I guess every student that ever asked a question or anyone that ever swore on a bible reminds you of a Nazi too

I said it reminds me of the photos I saw. Never once did I say I thought people who raise their hands are Nazi's. Nice way to misinterpret my words. Not surprising.

 

[Pupik]

I suggest we take this out of WHAT-IF personal attack mode.

Last I heard, nobody is trying to pass a bill to make Godwin's Law into reality.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Romney is just another crony captital/neoconservative....

Anyhow just wow and I say this because on these idiot just equated Trump with Adolf Hilter for wanting to put up a border wall. What I even find funny is how of the host on the View once declared Hitler a Christian, something historians and even those who close to him disagree on....

Now I'm no fan of Trump or a border, but the Hitler comparison is pretty stupid. I wonder if they would've said the same thing about Cesar Chavez very proponent of a border of a border wall.

The view...there's your problem.

 

[FoolKiller]

Just out of interest, who is running on the Libertarian ticket this year?

Here's the five candidates in last week's debate.



There will also be a nationally televised debate on John Stossel's show on Fox Business. It will take place March 29th and air April 1st (Not sure if Fox is trolling).

I didn't check as I believed it to be that wacko anti virus guy. My bad.

And this is why third parties won't ever get a chance. Even those who know they are out there don't pay enough attention to make an informed decision about them.

 

[Omnis]

Darryl Perry doesn't disappoint. Doesn't even make sense to run for President. I can't decide if I want to vote for Petersen or McAfee. I just can't stand how smarmy Petersen is. I hated his annoying emails and facebook stewardship of Napolitano's accounts.

 

[Sanji Himura]

In a case of going with the devil that they know, Ted Cruz is set to rack up the endorsements of more than four US Senators. How many he will ultimately get will depend on if Marco Rubio pulls out of the race when he loses Florida.

OP Update: Updated the delegate counts after Saturday's results, and added the state wins feature to each party's candidates.

 

[Biggles]

Because every time someone asks you to actually explain something you give a load of cryptic nonsense. The merits of the political beliefs Dennis Kucinich vis a vis Bernie Sanders would perhaps been easier to discuss had you led off with something like "Bernie Sanders wasn't half the instigator of social change that Kucinich would have been".

Even then though, Bernie Sanders is the upstart who has consistently legitimately threatened Hilary's last attempt at complete political power even though it was supposed to be easy for her this time; and Kucinich was the guy who got blown out by Obama and Hilary eight years ago (after being a semi-consistent last place finisher in the election the DNC probably could have just skipped four years before that); so it is probably safe to say that "contender" is overstating his presence a bit.

It's hard to really give a completely rational explanation for why Bernie is doing so well when Kucinich failed to make any impression. You might ask the same question about why Ron Paul did relatively well while Paul Jr. made no impression at all. As in the case of Trump - timing is everything.

He has no where near the charisma or violent tendencies however. It's a laughable comparison.

As I pointed out, a much more appropriate comparison is Silvio Berlusconi. Although Berlusconi was actually pretty much a "self-made man", which is not really true of Trump. And Trump has a way to go before he matches Berlusconi in outrageously inappropriate behaviour.

I just saw a poll on CNN which showed Sanders trouncing any of the GOP candiates in a general election - I find that polling a little hard to believe (although the GTPlanet poll appears to show the same thing ). Where do they come up with these numbers? I have to admit, it would be a gloriously memorable election night if Sanders ended up going head-to-head with Trump & crushed him. The world of US politics would be sent reeling.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I just saw a poll on CNN which showed Sanders trouncing any of the GOP candiates in a general election

It is a good thing that the Clinton machine is going to crush him.

 

[squadops]

And this is why third parties won't ever get a chance. Even those who know they are out there don't pay enough attention to make an informed decision about them.

To be fair, I know quite a bit about Johnson, I'd reckon more than most.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It is a good thing that the Clinton machine is going to crush him.

Which is all the more strange why these idiots from the DNC and RNC don't shut the heck up and back their off-brand candidate, just cause it's not establishment and running by the books as they deem it. Sad truth is GOP is going to get a non-establishment candidate in Trump, and people seem to want off brand this time around thus Clinton will struggle, and more so due to the bs baggage she brings and is trying to lie and hide.

Hate or love Trump, his baggage is on full display, hell he even welcomes it, and that seems to be more or less why America will back him over her. If the establishment got behind Bernie they could stop this, but they rather shoot themselves in the foot as usual, same with the GOP.

 

[squadops]

Let's all make a pact to vote 3rd party

 

[Sanji Himura]

It's hard to really give a completely rational explanation for why Bernie is doing so well when Kucinich failed to make any impression. You might ask the same question about why Ron Paul did relatively well while Paul Jr. made no impression at all. As in the case of Trump - timing is everything.

I can tell you why Bernie is doing so well, he is openly a socialist whereas Kucinich tried to hide his socialism (if he believed it to begin with). Furthermore, Kucinich tried to take down a relatively popular president at the time with his articles of impeachment that never went far. Had he not tried that, I would have seen him win the nomination in 2008, not Obama.

 

[DRLOVE]

Always vote on economics. Millennials god bless em.

 

[huskeR32]

Always vote on economics. Millennials god bless em.

I doubt too many people here are going to watch thirteen minutes of pointless soundbites. Do you have your own opinion you'd like to share?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I doubt too many people here are going to watch thirteen minutes of pointless soundbites. Do you have your own opinion you'd like to share?

In reality I thought it'd be more sound bites and not just parts of or entire pieces of fanatical left wing people, which he then uses the video to demonstrate as all...

So that should actually tell you more than you probably want to know.

 

[DRLOVE]

I doubt too many people here are going to watch thirteen minutes of pointless soundbites. Do you have your own opinion you'd like to share?

Different income brackets for different folks but liberals god bless em, each and every single one of em folks.

 

[Sanji Himura]

March 8th Primary Results: (Updated every 15 minutes from when the polls close until there is a call in the race)
[Note: If there are calls made by way of exit polling, I will note it in the call and still update the results in the affected states.]

Last Updated: 8:45pm Eastern Time

Mississippi - Polls Close at 8pm Eastern Time

Republican Results: 3% Reporting
Ted Cruz - 37% [Projected to finish Second]
Donald Trump - 52% *Winner* [Based on Exit Polling]
John Kasich - 5%
Marco Rubio - 4%

Democrat Results: 3% Reporting
Hillary Clinton - 82% *Winner* [Based on Exit Polling]
Bernie Sanders - 17%

Michigan - Polls Close at 9pm Eastern Time

Republican Results: 17% Reporting
Ted Cruz - 23%
Donald Trump - 39% *Winner*
John Kasich - 27%
Marco Rubio - 9%

Democrat Results: 17% Reporting
Hillary Clinton - 48%
Bernie Sanders - 51%

Idaho - Polls Close at 11pm Eastern Time

Republican Results: 0% Reporting
Ted Cruz - 0%
Donald Trump - 0%
John Kasich - 0%
Marco Rubio - 0%

Hawaii Caucuses - Polls Close at 1am Eastern

Republican Results: 0% Reporting
Ted Cruz - 0%
Donald Trump - 0%
John Kasich - 0%
Marco Rubio - 0%

 

[Danoff]

@Sanji Himura, comeon man... fix the poll!

 

[FoolKiller]

To be fair, I know quite a bit about Johnson, I'd reckon more than most.

Except for the fact that he is leading polls in the primary for his party, and assumed the LP were running someone else.

That's a big miss in this context and you sounded (as well as you can hear intonation in text) as if it wasn't even someone worth talking about.

 

[squadops]

I did mis it, that's what makes gtp cool, you caught me up and I thank you. 👍

I didn't mean to dismiss it, if I have a chance to vote for him, I surely will.