[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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Bottom lining it, Hillary has a history of a "pay to play" scheme of power share and bribery. Hillary, at least going back to her time at State, (something that is well documented in this thread) would not push for prosecution of oil companies in particular if they donate to the Clinton Foundation.
 
This quote is very dangerous to the right people:



The fact that he was pushing for Universal health care back then is not something that any Republican favored, not even today.

Funny thing about universal healthcare is the fact coming from an individual see himself as an austro-libertarian I don't see any problem with it other than the fact I don't like the idea of government mandating such a thing, let alone is the provider of such a thing..

In my view, "universal" healthcare can be best achieved when government regulations and meddling in the healthcare industry is removed and entities(e.g. doctors, insurers, etc) are allowed to compete freely and without special favors etc.

Speaking off, 2 awesome articles on why out heathcare system is disaster:

https://mises.org/library/myth-free-market-healthcare

https://mises.org/blog/how-government-regulations-made-healthcare-so-expensive
 
The crap that goes viral on facebook never surprises me either :lol:
Believe me I know viral crap when I see it, I called one of my own friends out this morning for sharing the "nazi sub in the great lakes" BS that's making the rounds as we speak and is totally false. I wouldn't share this if I didn't believe it was true.
It shouldn't be.
Just though it was worth sharing.
 
Funny thing about universal healthcare is the fact coming from an individual see himself as an austro-libertarian I don't see any problem with it other than the fact I don't like the idea of government mandating such a thing, let alone is the provider of such a thing..

In my view, "universal" healthcare can be best achieved when government regulations and meddling in the healthcare industry is removed and entities(e.g. doctors, insurers, etc) are allowed to compete freely and without special favors etc.

Speaking off, 2 awesome articles on why out heathcare system is disaster:

https://mises.org/library/myth-free-market-healthcare

https://mises.org/blog/how-government-regulations-made-healthcare-so-expensive
It is just a simple case of defining what universal means. In most progressive terminology, universal simply means the same thing as single-payer. Romney-care is a very elementary system that is what progressives want. Obamacare is a descendant of Romney's plan.

Therein lies the danger of leaving the law intact. With the exception of Ted Cruz, every candidate promises a "repeal and replace". The fundamental question that everyone should be asking is "with what?" If Bernie Sanders is to be believed, then it is a Single-Payer system that is like the UK and Canada.
 
The crap that goes viral on facebook never surprises me either :lol:
You don't find it shocking that Bernie supporters went to a Trump rally and then made a big post on facebook about how much they didn't like the Trump rally?:lol: Someone call CNN!!!

Believe me I know viral crap when I see it, I called one of my own friends out this morning for sharing the "nazi sub in the great lakes" BS that's making the rounds as we speak and is totally false. I wouldn't share this if I didn't believe it was true.

Just though it was worth sharing.
Good thing you called your friend out on that Nazi sub[marine?] in the Great Lakes otherwise there could have been mass panic amongst all your little facebook buddies. It's totally false though right? Since you know the Nazi sub isn't in the Great Lakes I trust your opinion on the facebook post now:lol:

PS: You sure it isn't a Trump Nazi sub? Could be... Keep checking facebook so we can get to the bottom of that one.


Just another peace loving Bernie supporter most likely:

Idiot jumps barrier and tries to run on stage to do who knows what to Trump...with video
 
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Good thing you called your friend out on that Nazi sub[marine?] in the Great Lakes otherwise there could have been mass panic amongst all your little facebook buddies. It's totally false though right? Since you know the Nazi sub isn't in the Great Lakes I trust your opinion on the facebook post now:lol:

PS: You sure it isn't a Trump Nazi sub? Could be... Keep checking facebook so we can get to the bottom of that one.
http://www.snopes.com/nazi-sub-found-in-great-lakes/

And I don't like your attitude. Though it's not surprising.
 
What are the protesters exactly? Of course not ass.

Listen, modern politics breed hatred, I don't like it but it is true, we should question our fellow man imo.
 
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What are the protesters exactly? Of course not ass.

Listen, modern politics breed hated, I don't like it but it is true, we should question or fellow man imo.
I'm not talking about any of that, I'm specifically talking about him calling me out on the viral facebook post about the submarine. Uncalled for and unappreciated.
 
I'm not talking about any of that, I'm specifically talking about him calling me out on the viral facebook post about the submarine. Uncalled for and unappreciated.
Trump is too wild with his rallies i AGREE.... He could tone it down 3 notches and still be effective.

Whats this submarine hehe? There's plenty of stuff preserved in cold water under the surface of lake superior here in MN. I doubt any german u boats or subs tho, haha, its not like were connected to ocean there is a lot of artificial tubs or "locks" and the lake surface are above sea level by alot....20ft or more.
Superior and michigan are several hundred ft up...
Whats funny though is a german ship was here recently at port spewing waste into lake superior, got fined and was here for weeks before leaving in early winter before the lake froze up.
 
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I could be wrong, I don't see giving one over the other a fair shake as honest. Maybe I mis understand. Whatever, a rally is held, the patrones are fanatical right? Some protesters are so much as well. I am old enough to remember when America was above that.

Just sayin 👍
 
I could be wrong, I don't see giving one over the other a fair shake as honest. Maybe I mis understand. Whatever, a rally is held, the patrones are fanatical right? Some protesters are so much as well. I am old enough to remember when America was above that.

Just sayin 👍
Wild political rallies are the new thing, protests are the 1960s phenomenon though... I think its about time for some fresh political air, Trump has given us it. My grandmother remembers every presidential election since FDR. She's never seen one like this, wild and great entertainment. I think that the gop has set it up to be interesting, democrats did not, but they got Bernie and he made it good anyhow...
 
Protesting doesn't mean quietly waiting your turn to respectfully debate a fascist.
 
Is Trump a fascist? I've only thought of him as an entertainer.
Trump is an intuitive political genius because he's sensed and is effectively riding a wave of inchoate, inward-looking nationalism and populism. Unless he's derailed, he will win because all the other candidates are associated with corporate globalism and establishment elitism.

There are many definitions of fascism by scholars. But Mussolini said this: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." Neither do I think Trump is a revolutionary. The militarily outward-looking neocons derive from the permanent revolution envisioned by Leon Trotsky. Most of the other candidates have neocons on staff. Trump does not.
 
http://www.snopes.com/nazi-sub-found-in-great-lakes/

And I don't like your attitude. Though it's not surprising.
Saving the internet, one Nazi submarine in the Great Lakes at a time:lol:.

Protesting doesn't mean quietly waiting your turn to respectfully debate a fascist.
If you want to raise yourself a level above the supposed fascist it does. If you simply want to lower yourself to his level and demonstrate that you are no better than he is, just keep doing what what you're doing. Eventually we'll have another incident like we did last week when some KKK marchers were violently and viciously attacked and someone is going to be hurt worse or killed. You either think violence is ok or you condemn it on all sides, not just the side you like or agree with.

Sanders lack of a blanket condemnation of violence and violent protest isn't surprising. He blames Trump for inciting his supporters as if they are completely powerless to the power of words from a candidate they don't like. Makes them no different than Trump supporters in this regard.
 
I forgot to say before, it's quite sad how far it has sank. It is not the candidates fault per say, it's the people. They always get what they want in the long run.

Such a disgrace imo, I'm no saint but common now people.
 
The Donald shares a touching moment with a legal immigrant.

Wait I'm confused. The guy said that the media doesn't separate legal immigration from Illegal immigration, when have they done that? I'm not being sarcastic or anything I legitimately want an example.
 
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