Porsche Not in FM4 Confirmed (Originally Porsche may be in Forza 4. Check this out).

[rocketcaron]

EA will loose the exclusive Porsche license next year because they signed a ten year contract from 2002-2012 for NFS Porsche unleashed hopefully we'll get Porsche DLC next year

Ahhhhhhh... HOPE! Lets drink to that!

 

[cuco33]

I would fully welcome Porsche via DLC even a year later. But I'm not holding my breath for it. It does give some hope. Just griped over this whole recent news. I don't play Madden but I can understand 2K fans with EA getting the NFL license. I like PES but I personally have way more fun with FIFA especially the licensing. I can also see why PES fans hate FIFA due to EA's stranglehold on licensing... and here we are, yet another game getting the Porsche boot. I'm guessing it's EA wanting SHIFT (or NFS:run) to grow in popularity.

 

[Steve Mcqueen]

Where did you get this info?

It was published years ago on the net they said they only had a ten year license with Porsche on the Porsche exclusive from the NFS Porsche unleashed game .........

It sucks I love Porsche

 

[gogatrs]

I just realized that RUF most likely makes more money from licenses than Porsche. lol

 

[JJ72]

It sucks I love Porsche

It sucks more to me then, as I love Porsche and not have your garage.

 

[Bogie 19th]

He posts a picture of his car in almost every thread

 

[Daverytimes]

You know, maybe it was brought up because it was true? Just saying. Having Porsche was a big plus, and I bet not only in my book.

But is no longer a big plus, am all for Porsche being in Forza 4 but when Kaz mentioned that it wasn't in GT5 people pounced on him.

 

[Luminis]

He posts a picture of his car in almost every thread

And rightfully so At least as far as the RUF 930 goes.

But is no longer a big plus, am all for Porsche being in Forza 4 but when Kaz mentioned that it wasn't in GT5 people pounced on him.

And you can be sure that people will be pouncing Dan also. There's only one bit of difference, though: T10 made sure to make it known that they've been trying to get their hands on Porsche and put EA out there as "the bad guys".

 

[Steve Mcqueen]

He posts a picture of his car in almost every thread

Only when it's related too a topic

 

[Daverytimes]

And rightfully so At least as far as the RUF 930 goes.

And you can be sure that people will be pouncing Dan also. There's only one bit of difference, though: T10 made sure to make it known that they've been trying to get their hands on Porsche and put EA out there as "the bad guys".

You are basically saying that Kaz should have made EA out to be the "Bad guys". That doesn't suite him and am sure he would have never done that, he always said that they have been trying to get the Porsche license but can't. No-one is blaming Dan, from the posts i have seen both here and Gaf people seem to be taking it out on EA. EA is not the "bad guys" it's simply a business decision. MS has not allowed EA to get their hands on the Ferrari license so why should EA play nice. btw i was one of the people that was critical of Kaz not having Porsche in the game but after reading some of the things he said in his interviews it was clear that they were not allowed to use the licence. Even though many knew this the "Porsche is in Forza but not GT hahahah" argument persisted. I guess all of that can be put to rest.

 

[Nooboogering]

<i>And you can be sure that people will be pouncing Dan also. There's only one bit of difference, though: T10 made sure to make it known that they've been trying to get their hands on Porsche and put EA out there as "the bad guys".</i>

Makes me wonder who the good guys are. How much effort did PD try to acquire the porsche licsense from EA. Could it have been that EA wanted a whole lot of money or for PD to bow down to them.

 

[Bogie 19th]

Only when it's related too a topic

Just messin' 👍

 

[Luminis]

You are basically saying that Kaz should have made EA out to be the "Bad guys". That doesn't suite his him and am sure he would have never done that, he always said that they have been trying to get the Porsche license but can't.

If it was EA that kept them from getting the Porsche license, I don't see what's wrong with putting that out there - and, more importantly, if he's not willing to communicate about the issues with GT, that's his problem to deal with.

No-one is blaming Dan, from the posts i have seen both here and Gaf people seem to be taking it out on EA.

That's why it was very clever of him to make it known to the public.

EA is not the "bad guys" it's simply a business decision. MS has not allowed EA to get their hands on the Ferrari license so why should EA play nice.

Why would you criticise T10 for EA's buisiness decisions, then?

btw i was one of the people that was critical of Kaz not having Porsche in the game but after reading some of the things he said in his interviews it was clear that they were not allowed to use the licence. Even though many knew this the "Porsche is in Forza but not GT hahahah" argument persisted. I guess all of that can be put to rest.

As I said earlier, with FM3, the argument was true after all.

Makes me wonder who the good guys are. How much effort did PD try to acquire the porsche licsense from EA. Could it have been that EA wanted a whole lot of money or for PD to bow down to them.

The terms would've probably been largely similar to what T10/MS faced. And the point is that EA were put out there as the ones to blame for the lack of Porsche in FM4. T10 already showed everyone that they can do it with the last Forza games, so now it's all about the public perceiption.

 

[Steve Mcqueen]

Just messin' 👍

No problems

 

[tribolik]

Just because the trailer shows a Porsche that doesnt mean thjat there will be porsches in the game... GT5 trailer showed - el capitan - and my guess is that it wont even be released as DLC.

The facts are that no other game with RUF in it as ever had porsches and thats a big shame but it seems Porsches are out this time...

 

[Bogie 19th]

The facts are that no other game with RUF in it as ever had porsches and thats a big shame but it seems Porsches are out this time...

If you are talking FACTS, then you would be incorrect.

 

[Caliper]

If only EA would release a proper racing game with Porsche I wouldn't mind, but those **** NFS games are disgusting.

 

[Bogie 19th]

Maybe NFS = Need For ****?

 

[zr1chris]

I was a big NFS fan until after "highstakes". Its a shame what has happened to the series and now it is developing a black eye with EA hogging the Porsche license for themselves. Hopefully EA learns from this as Im sure they will receive allot of backlash and probably even a drop in sales due to people boycotting them.

 

[jabofu]

The thing is, it would be understandable, if they would release a major racing game like Shift 3 or so soon, but there is only NFS The Run coming. So this is only planned to sabotage Forza 4 and take some momentum from it. EA is not just trolling, but really damaging here. In the Interview they also claimed that they have the license for Ferrari but end up sharing it with everyone that comes accross, so dont say Turn10 is as bad as them.

 

[Luminis]

, that picture is great! The Hammster will not be amused about this. Maybe they're giving EA some flak during the next TG season. That'd have some impact, for sure.

 

[paskowitz]

http://jalopnik.com/5834368/porsche-doesnt-care-about-video-game-people

Porsche doesn’t care about video game people

Porsche loves to claim it's the winningest carmaker in history. But that's a lie. Most people now race in video games. And now, thanks to Porsche's absence from Forza 4, most video gamers won't be racing Porsches to victory. It also confirms what we've long known: Porsche doesn't care about video game people.

The real culprit in this Forza 4 debacle isn't EA, despite holding a contractual agreement with Porsche requiring other companies to sub-license the cars from them. Although that's who everyone's blaming, they're simply acting like a business with an inferior product who has a strategic advantage over the two makers — Microsoft's Turn 10 Studios and Sony's Polyphony Digital — of superior ones.

No, Porsche is to blame. Ultimately, Porsche owns the rights to the digital versions of their cars and have always taken the absolutely dumbest position with how they're portrayed. This is why players of Gran Turismo games race RUF vehicles instead of Porches and why Forza 4 players will now be forced to do the same.

If Porsche wanted to repair this situation they easily could. EA may have a sweet deal with the German automaker, but it's costing ze Germans the affection of prospective buyers and ultimately hurting their brand. If, or when, they realize this they can either break the contract with EA or strong-arm them into sub-licensing the cars to both Gran Turismo and Forza.

Porsche loves to claim they're the winningest carmaker in history because a fleet of 911s and Caymans race in what seems like every racing event in the world. But that's a lie. Most people race online, in video game simulators, and increasingly that's going to mean racing in vehicles other than Porches.

We contacted Porsche and asked them to explain their position, but all they've been willing to do so far is confirm they have an agreement with EA.

Porsche doesn't care about video game people / Forza 4Nissan gets why video gamers are important. It's why they're letting digital video game racers compete in real racing events like the 24 Hours of Le Mans (and doing exceptionally well).

There are mostly losers in this kind of agreement. EA loses because they look like a bunch of dicks and gamers lose because they're not getting access to the world class sports cars people actually race. But the biggest loser is Porsche.

Kids logging on to race GT-Rs instead of 911s will grow up wondering why they should spend all that extra money to buy a Porsche when they can buy a car they've already fallen in love with in the digital realm.

Only Turn 10, curiously, looks good in this whole mess. Their recent post about how they'd love to have the cars in the game, and how they want a deal, and how they're fighting for gamers makes them seem like the only party that actually cares.

 

[SuperShouden]

Yep says a lot doesn't it. I could never be happy about any racing games lacking features as I buy them all and want them all to be as good as possible. Proof, if it was even needed, that his opinion on all things Forza should not be given too much weight.

It's this sort of opinion that is the bane of these discussions. There are certain people on both sides of the debate who just can't be objective.

So....If I don't like Forza...or if I'm glad that Porsche's not in because of all the GT bashers always whinin' cause GT doesn't have Porsche....I should just keep that crap to myself? But...1) it's my opinion, 2) this is a discussion...and for a discussion you need multiple sides. Everyone has provided the "It sucks donkey balls that Porsche isn't in FM4," side and I provided the "I'm glad Porsche isn't it, as it give opportunities for more new cars in FM4" side. And 3) You DO know this is a forum and I can read everything you say on here, right? I mean, you're not on my iggy list...yet...seriously, if you all don't like the stuff I say, then just add me to your "ignored users" list, because, if you have a problem with me, that's your problem ain't it.

Or, if you have a problem with me, PM me.

Seriously, people, how about bitchin' about EVERY 🤬 comment I make and focus on the topic at hand...which is Porsche's not in Forza...not "Shouden's a dickwad and a nerd and a loser and he sucks."

 

[Luminis]

Seriously, people, how about bitchin' about EVERY 🤬 comment I make and focus on the topic at hand...which is Porsche's not in Forza...not "Shouden's a dickwad and a nerd and a loser and he sucks."

Hey, as you stated yourself, opinions are free to be stated, right? We have to put up with yours, you have to put up with ours.

Only Turn 10, curiously, looks good in this whole mess. Their recent post about how they'd love to have the cars in the game, and how they want a deal, and how they're fighting for gamers makes them seem like the only party that actually cares.

See, PD, that's what a bit of good ol' communication can do for ya.

 

[Bogie 19th]

I provided the "I'm glad Porsche isn't it, as it give opportunities for more new cars in FM4" side.

I read your comment stating "I'm glad Porsche isn't Forza 4 because it's not in GT5, and now we can rub it in the Forza fans faces for once". If that is the stance you choose, than that is your prerogative. Just don't expect you to retain any credibility with a comment like that.

Most of us are here to race the games and have fun, not carry on about little console wars.

 

[jabofu]

I read your comment stating "I'm glad Porsche isn't Forza 4 because it's not in GT5, and now we can rub it in the Forza fans faces for once". If that is the stance you choose, than that is your prerogative. Just don't expect you to retain any credibility with a comment like that.

Most of us are here to race the games and have fun, not carry on about little console wars.

I think there is no question that both games, GT and FM, deserve Porsches all the way.

For GT there was a tiny chance to get Porsche for the first time, but nothing confirmed. WIth FM they have always been there and were loved. Now EA just take them away. It is like the Nordschleife would have been taken away from GT, which would bring some discussion to say the least...

 

[zr1chris]

Or, if you have a problem with me, PM me.

Seriously, people, how about bitchin' about EVERY 🤬 comment I make and focus on the topic at hand...which is Porsche's not in Forza...not "Shouden's a dickwad and a nerd and a loser and he sucks."

I take it you've heard that once or twice. I wonder why....

 

[SuperShouden]

Hey, as you stated yourself, opinions are free to be stated, right? We have to put up with yours, you have to put up with ours.

I put up with your opinions all the time...just, if you have an opinion of me, take it up with me, and quit wasting all these people's time and space postin' the 🤬 on the forums.

I take it you've heard that once or twice. I wonder why....

Yeah, I keep thinking that a forum is a place to post my opinions and have a discussion, but apparently, all everyone wants to do is fight.

Now, quit bein' wussies, put the car in drive and lets move on, shall we.

 

[zr1chris]

Yeah, I keep thinking that a forum is a place to post my opinions and have a discussion, but apparently, all everyone wants to do is fight.

Ever think maybe its not the opinion you have but the way you express it that causes it.

 

[Downhill Dino]

I knew this would happen eventually. My dad and step-brother were talking one day saying Porsche isn't going to be in GT5 (Before it came out) due to Porsche wanting people to buy the real cars rather then virtual ones. They thought that GT was becoming to realistic and they would have a drop in sales. Could have happened to Forza here too. Kinda why Porsche is sticking to NFS due to their unrealism and arcade-ish games. Do not flame me if this is false information. My dad ans step-brother were having quite a long conversation about it. May not be EA. This is just speculation, not trying to start up something here. I've never seen anyone on GTPlanet speak of this and I thought I'd throw it out here in this thread. Again, don't flame me, after all I may be wrong.

Even though I do not play Forza, I feel pretty bad for them due to losing their rights to Porsche. What a shame, but hopefully Forza 4 will still be great with those RUFs.