PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7

[lynchpin]

Just seen the thread update - paying for tunes? Really? What's the cost supposed to cover, virtual fuel bills?

How do you deem a few replicable clicks chargeable, it's not like a 3D model that is actually your work.

If your time is also not worth anything read back through all the pages in the post. First, you'll find all your answers.

Second, you'll see that all the time he puts in is worth 5 dollars a month, what do you spend on coffee/ soda/ candy/ whatever indulgence you are into.

I, and I'm sure others, have improved hugely because of the tunes/ advice here so consider it a coaching fee but much cheaper.

Alternatively, go start a new thread somewhere else so you can keep whinging with all the others who need their diaper changed, everyone is sick of it.

You could call it the Smoothbrain Social Club

 

[CustomX]

There is no need for insults.

Most people just want to drive, and don't have the time/inclination to learn how to tune and set cars. Its a no-brainer investment for anyone who is in this category.

The tiny monthly cost covers the 40+ hours per week that Praiano spends testing, tuning, tweaking and publishing tunes so that we all get the most enjoyment out of our sim racing hobby.

 

[Oxygene]

Alternatively, go start a new thread somewhere else so you can keep whinging with all the others who need their diaper changed, everyone is sick of it.

You could call it the Smoothbrain Social Club

You are a real lesson giver with your 7 messages! If you can afford a subscription, good for you, but don't devalue a member who doesn't agree on the principle of payment. In addition, it's been 1 month since Praiano's made the slightest response here in his dedicated message and he no longer offers anything.

So, for you, it is normal that his Paypal link in his 1st message is still there, allowing him to earn even more money in addition to his Patreon site? So it's up to you to go elsewhere or create your own dedicated message, because you are indeed a polluter, someone who answers for nothing.

 

[CustomX]

The sense of entitlement. Wow.

but don't devalue a member who doesn't agree on the principle of payment.

furinkazen's post was aggressive and sarcastic, which dictated the tone of lynchpin's response.

Praiano spends a huge number of hours every day creating tunes. To denigrate this work and say he's asking for money to "cover virtual fuel bills", is insulting.

There is no other GT7 tune garage that offers the quantity of tunes that Praiano does, let alone the quality, the commentary, the star ratings, the driving tips, the ease of use and speed at which one can apply tunes using the new site. All these features are invaluable to people who are time poor and just want to drive. Also, one learns a lot about driving and racing from Praiaino's comments on each car's strengths and weaknesses.

The $5/month is a very fair price. The Paypal link is there also because some of us who appreciate Praiano's tunes want to contribute a little bit more when we have some spare money available. Praiano has helped us for many years and he continues to help us every day with his tunes. The are worth a lot more than $5 per month!

 

[EricTheActor]

There is a guy who loves to fish. Over time he used his knowledge and skills to make his own lures that work amazingly. Very quickly his buddies wanted the same lures as they work so well! His lures worked way better than the other 5 kinds they were using. Just no comparison to the quality.


For years he was known as the only guy who can make these work. He made them for his friends, he made for his kids friends. He loved it. Over time a friend of a friend's friend wanted lures, everyone knows about them.


Fishing with this guys lures just made fishing so much more fun. Did I need it, could I make my own? No, Maybe. But his hard work in developing this specialty product/service and I just get to have fun.


The guy who loved to fish and make lures decided people needed to bring supplies or cover the cost and he would get to them for sure. They would bring him gifts, cookies, Knick nacks as thankyou’s. For a long long time he did this.


As time went on, world changes, things change. He didn’t give anyone a reason, he didn’t have to. They respected him. He decided to start selling lures on Etsy. Everyone was happy for the guy, so cool he has done this for so long. Not only did people order on Etsy, but all of the friends and people who used to get free lures from him started going right on Etsy and ordering from him. This guy changed lures for the better. And they were inexpensive. Worked out to roughly $5 a month for people to get lures. Thats the way he said he wanted to do it. Monthly Lure fee. It was more than fair!


They were happy to support someone who has shared so much with the community, and it made their hobby more fun!



Pick your tangible lures and where you fish. Pick your video game car tunes and where you race in GT7 with Praiano’s wealth of knowledge. We should only be showing words of support, member or not.

GT7 is meant to have fun, I recommend you try these tunes. 15+ years in the commmunty. That is what’s called “a Pillar of the Community.

If you don’t like that’s fine, but we don’t really care. You go find some lures that work this well.

Try to see others view. Understand. Community support. Race some laps. Have fun.

 

[lynchpin]

You are a real lesson giver with your 7 messages! If you can afford a subscription, good for you, but don't devalue a member who doesn't agree on the principle of payment. In addition, it's been 1 month since Praiano's made the slightest response here in his dedicated message and he no longer offers anything.

So, for you, it is normal that his Paypal link in his 1st message is still there, allowing him to earn even more money in addition to his Patreon site? So it's up to you to go elsewhere or create your own dedicated message, because you are indeed a polluter, someone who answers for nothing.

So the amount of posts I have dictates whether I can share my thoughts or not? Go back under your bridge troll.

And speaking of polluters in threads....... Don't throw stones of you live in a glass house.

 

[dcmo3]

So the amount of posts I have dictates whether I can share my thoughts or not? Go back under your bridge troll.

And speaking of polluters in threads....... Don't throw stones of you live in a glass house.

Oh, you can share your thoughts, but you cross the line when you start tossing insults.

Frankly, this thread should be closed as it's nothing more than an advertisement for his Patreon site.

 

[RustyMaggots]

Nissan R32 GT-R Nismo '90 - 700PP - Racing Hard Tires - All Tracks -SWAP - 1.49
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SWAP ENGINE: VR38DETT-GT-R-Nismo

Wide Car
Rims up to you - Width Wide - Offset Wide
Front B - Side B - Rear A - Wing A

Almost the same setup of the R32 '94 but a bit more heavy. As performant of the '94 model but a few better top speed. Handling is the same , excelent.

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Enjoy your drive.​

Why does rim sizes not matter? I'm wondering for this tune but also other tunes in general. In my experience it has a huge impact on handling.

 

[praiano63]

Oh, you can share your thoughts, but you cross the line when you start tossing insults.

Frankly, this thread should be closed as it's nothing more than an advertisement for his Patreon site.

It's ok. End of the road for me.

 

[EricTheActor]

No! We love you man!

 

[lynchpin]

Oh, you can share your thoughts, but you cross the line when you start tossing insults.

Frankly, this thread should be closed as it's nothing more than an advertisement for his Patreon site.

Just using some of their own writing style as reason clearly hasn't worked.

The original post by furinkazen is just one more post with an angry rant about praiano starting to take something he's excellent at, and, spends a lot of time doing to the next level. He has every right to move to Patreon, yes he posted the link a few times but how would people know about it otherwise, it's not against any rules afaik.

That plus all the posts by oxygene berating praiano are what's making the thread die, no one who doesn't want to pay needs to pay, or be here. it's the internet there's plenty of other threads, sites etc they can troll on.

All I was doing was defending praianos decision, plus I wouldn't even call what I wrote insulting, just using language they understand as reason clearly hasn't worked.

Nothing against you at all just clearing up that those posts are why no one posts here anymore. This video is likely what they are doing.

 

[B80]

Just using some of their own writing style as reason clearly hasn't worked.

The original post by furinkazen is just one more post with an angry rant about praiano starting to take something he's excellent at, and, spends a lot of time doing to the next level. He has every right to move to Patreon, yes he posted the link a few times but how would people know about it otherwise, it's not against any rules afaik.

That plus all the posts by oxygene berating praiano are what's making the thread die, no one who doesn't want to pay needs to pay, or be here. it's the internet there's plenty of other threads, sites etc they can troll on.

All I was doing was defending praianos decision, plus I wouldn't even call what I wrote insulting, just using language they understand as reason clearly hasn't worked.

Nothing against you at all just clearing up that those posts are why no one posts here anymore. This video is likely what they are doing.

Well he appears to have called it a day... see 1st post in this thread.

Can't say I blame him. I'm sure Praiano would have continued to post some tunes on here, but as every other post is something negative and/or OTT post about Patreon, I can't say I blame him.

His Patreon community is thriving and im pleased for him. Plenty of us see and enjoy value he's been providing across 100's of cars since 1.49. Well worth it the small outlay.

Particularly for people like me that don't like/no good at tuning and just want to pickup the game at end of long day and enjoy the drive...

I appreciate some may not be in financial position to pay the sub, but let's be honest, that must be a tiny % of those that play this game. When you consider cost of ps4/5 and the game, , tv plus maybe ps subscription.

And as another poster so eloquently put 'its only a few clicks of a button, not Like he modelled cars' or something to that effect. If it's 'only a few clicks of a button' I doubt people are too upset he no longer posts (for now, perhaps?) on here, right. Anyone can learn, do it themselves or find other tunes, so whats the problem

Looks like a lot of people disagree with you, judging by patreon community. Value of anything can be derived differently by different people. And clearly a lot of people are happy with the product Praiano is offering, otherwise he wouldn't have some many subscribers .

 

[CustomX]

I am not a fan of this development.

Praiano helped this community with tunes for many years.

Upgrading to using Patreon, was not a case of Praiano "charging for something that had always been free".

The Patreon experience is completely different and better than what he did before.

• much higher quantity of tunes. Ie. many more hours worked by Praiano every day
• more commentary and analysis on the cars, tunes and their applicability to different tracks, races and situations
• star ratings (seems like a small thing but super useful to help one prioritise which tunes to employ when time is short)
• much easier to apply tunes using the Patreon screenshots, than it was in this thread.

Overall - a better, fuller experience that 100% justified the shift in approach and resulted in a better experience for almost all of us.

I vote that the content is reinstated so this thread can serve as a continuing discussion about Praiano's tunes that can help introduce more people to them.

Don't let the haters win.

 

[praiano63]

Hello, Good Morning to All My Fellow Followers!

Most of the cars in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd posts on GTP were outdated anyway. I’m really tired of the ongoing discussions in my GTP thread—I don’t have the time or patience to deal with it anymore.

Patreon is already taking up a lot of my time—it’s a big job to set up, publish cars, and respond to comments. For those wanting access to my old cars on GTP, the search button still works perfectly.
-"Name of the car"
-"THIS THREAD"
-Posted by "praiano63"

I’ve also removed the PayPal button, as some people requested. I think it’s fair—I don’t need donations anymore. Thanks to all of you fellow donators.

As for negativity, I won’t let stupid people win. I just let stupid people stay stupid and refuse to let them waste my time and patience.

Have a good day.