Pre-release GT5:Prologue Thread Firmware 2.17 mandatory for GT5:P? (and Pictures)

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Lets say you bought and downloaded a car online, say car is 1GB of memory; then you go to an online race. This is where it gets sticky you try to enter your "bought car" in race even if you can enter said car nobody else would be able to see it because before you can see a car in the game your game must contain that car, so what do you think will happen then.
1. other players would be hitting your car because it can't be seen
2. you can only race your car offline
3. all cars are in the game but PD wants more money from you so you can "unlock" it.
Now do you really think downloaded cars are a good ideal?
 
Nope, not necessarily.

All PD would have to do is release a download that enables players to see the new cars. It's how TDU allowed players to see Download Packs they hadn't bought. All they had to do was download the Free Car at the time, and that contained the ability for anyone to see the DLC.
 
If there are downloadable cars i wouldn't be able to continue the game knowing there is a new car avalible for download. Gotta have them all!
 
Nope, not necessarily.

All PD would have to do is release a download that enables players to see the new cars. It's how TDU allowed players to see Download Packs they hadn't bought. All they had to do was download the Free Car at the time, and that contained the ability for anyone to see the DLC.

So more updates = more hard drive space used up. I think that they should just release the game and nothing more, save everything else for the next GT game.
 
So more updates = more hard drive space used up. I think that they should just release the game and nothing more, save everything else for the next GT game.

LOL, I just had a thought.
You think this is why sony went for the 80gigs ps3 kit?

:dopey:
 
So more updates = more hard drive space used up. I think that they should just release the game and nothing more, save everything else for the next GT game.

I've had about 5 DLC packs on my X360 and its not even remotely half way full for a 12 gig.

The updates for games take up nowhere near enough space to fill even 1 gig.
 
I've had about 5 DLC packs on my X360 and its not even remotely half way full for a 12 gig.

The updates for games take up nowhere near enough space to fill even 1 gig.

Your 360 is based on hd disc PS3 is based on blueray; do you not realize the differance. Why do you think that the PS3 went with blueray?Duh
 
Nope, not necessarily.

All PD would have to do is release a download that enables players to see the new cars. It's how TDU allowed players to see Download Packs they hadn't bought. All they had to do was download the Free Car at the time, and that contained the ability for anyone to see the DLC.
It was something like that. As I recall, you couldn't see the actual car they were using, if it was one you yourself didn't own, but they would be driving a "generic" bonus car that wasn't available in any of the stores, and it would obviously have the performance of what they were actually driving. Used to confuse a lot of people, wondering where this "mystery" sports car was in the game, and someone pointed out that it's the proxy for a downloaded car. Something like that would work for GT as well.

And, for the record, opelgt1969, no single car will take up a GB of storage. Even a fully-detailed film-resolution digital model would only take up a couple MB. A game model, even a GT5 model, is probably not much more than a couple hundred K. The stats for the physics and performance would be presented in a plain text file, and would probably only be a few hundred bytes. Not a big file, not by a long shot. Granted, that's just based on numbers I've seen on my own hard drive.. I've never downloaded actual car packs for games like PGR or TDU, so I don't know how big they end up being. I'm just saying they don't have to be big, and they'll never come close to a gigabyte. Ever.
 
Your 360 is based on hd disc PS3 is based on blueray; do you not realize the differance. Why do you think that the PS3 went with blueray?Duh

That still doesn't mean your going to fill up 1/8th your PS3's space with updates.

Jedi:
You are correct, although it must work differently for some. I remember downloading the Free car, but not the pack, and seeing someone in a Ruf go by me.
 
IGN article on GT5 and GT5:P 8-16-07

new info i could dig out of the article

- they claim GT5 will have more cars than GT4, puttng the number at over 700

- GT5 and GT5:P will support all the PS2 USB wheels including the G25. uknown if it will use the gearbox of the G25 though

- GT5:P online is most likely a test bed for GT5 online

- You can not tune your car in GT5:P

- KY's vision is for motor bikes to be part of Gran Turismo and not a seperate game
 
IGN article on GT5 and GT5:P 8-16-07

new info i could dig out of the article

- they claim GT5 will have more cars than GT4, puttng the number at over 700

- GT5 and GT5:P will support all the PS2 USB wheels including the G25. uknown if it will use the gearbox of the G25 though

- GT5:P online is most likely a test bed for GT5 online

- You can not tune your car in GT5:P

- KY's vision is for motor bikes to be part of Gran Turismo and not a seperate game
What they claim isn't true. GT5 won't ship with 700 cars. I believe Fool already posted Kaz saying exactly that.
 
If there are downloadable cars i wouldn't be able to continue the game knowing there is a new car avalible for download. Gotta have them all!

See, that's what I don't like about downloadable cars and such. I'm affraid I'll miss something.:indiff:
 
See, that's what I don't like about downloadable cars and such. I'm affraid I'll miss something.:indiff:

Yep exactly, even if they charged a dollar each I would still have to buy them all.
 
Lets say you bought and downloaded a car online, say car is 1GB of memory; then you go to an online race. This is where it gets sticky you try to enter your "bought car" in race even if you can enter said car nobody else would be
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First of, a car with compression, including sounds and textures, when compressed, could only be like 20mB, and then when all the irrelevant stuff gets stripped, it could be less.
Secondly, I'm sure you'll have to download "packs" which enable the latest cars whenever new cars come out. Either that or you download once while starting a race and then you don't have to again.

Actually, this number would be less. A 200k poly model of an Audi TT that I have is 3mb, but extrapolate maybe 3x because my model has a modifer applied that extrapolates verticies, so 9mB. Then the physics, textures and anything else will be at most 2mB, so 11mB at MOST. Still, 11mB will take a substatial time for those with a bad connection to download.
 
The word tune seems to be passed around quite vaguely? By tune does it mean body wise( ie: body kit, accesories..) or the tuning that we know from past GT series( suspension settings, drivetrain...etc) , cuz I will be pretty damn mad if they remove tuning settings and such..

Err, this is prologue, GT5 the full game will have tuning, GT5 Prologue is just an elaborate demo
 
The word tune seems to be passed around quite vaguely? By tune does it mean body wise( ie: body kit, accesories..) or the tuning that we know from past GT series( suspension settings, drivetrain...etc) , cuz I will be pretty damn mad if they remove tuning settings and such..
Why, it's just or prologue. If they did that to GT5 I woudl be upset but prologue is kind of an intermediary, wet your appetite kind of game. It will only have 40 cars, so it isn't like you could expect a lot from the game.

Besides, racing a stock car against other stock cars will truly show your proficiency as a driver much more than having the better tuned car.

Of course, matching skills as a tuner and driver will be a great thing too. Unfortunately my tuning is simplistic and I fear I will suffer greatly when this happens. I only tweak multiple times when I feel the need, not with every car.
 
But according to Phil Harrison Prologue is not a demo and has "full" features.
Phil can call it whatever he likes, but we know better.

If it isn't GT5, then it's just a testbed to collect more of our money and, in the meantime, we will just be unpaid beta testers having fun.

Cheers,

MasterGT
 
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