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It's "official" Corvette to GM everywhere but the US (because Corvette GTE Cadillac GT3). Ironically the Emil Frey Jag is the "official" GT3 from Jaguar.
Teams can't gain homologation without OEM approval in either GT3 or GTE (hence many works GT3 cars thanks to a strong market for them).
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Emil Frey Jaguar GT3 is a car developed and raced by a "private team" based on an Jaguar XK coupe and its not an "official" GT3 car since Jaguar is not developing any kind of GT3 racing car.
Same goes for the Callaway Corvette C7 GT3-R.Its not a race car Corvette created.Its a C7 worked/developed by Callaway to race under FIA (and GT3) rules and regulations.
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Same with the Audi S1 RX in FIA WRX until and including the 2016 season. That was not a factory-backed car either and probably the main reason it's the only 2016 RX supercar not in Dirt 4. The good news though is that EKS Racing has Audi support from 2017 on so for future games we might see the Audi S1 RX implemented.
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Hey! They stole our name!
I know this is weird but I had a dream that we had a "Short track oval dlc" with this car along with a few short ovals, including dirt ovals.
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Fun dream. Mine was with a Coyne NEXT IndyCar as a round of IndyCar at Thruxton for 2018.
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So exciting I posted twice.
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You seem to be missing the fact that without the OEM saying 'yes you can do this' these cars wouldn't even make it to the track. Sure, built by a private team but they're the official GT3 as far as the OEM is concerned, just one cannot race in the US.
And the example under your post of the Audi is a private team building a private car that ends up works supported, seems oddly familiar.....
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Maybe the wording if off. It is an "official" GT3 car, just not a "works" GT3 car.
Same for the M4 GT4 built by Ekris Motorsport. It is an "official" M4 GT4 because Stefan Ratel has blessed it. It is not a "works" M4 GT4 because, BMW have actually built their own for customers.
Same for the M4 GT4 built by Ekris Motorsport. It is an "official" M4 GT4 because Stefan Ratel has blessed it. It is not a "works" M4 GT4 because, BMW have actually built their own for customers.
That's exaclty what I mean in addition to (especially looking at forza 7), Forza games tend to have a few models of the same car; ex Chevy camaro SS and the z28...or dodge challenger srt8 and the hellcat or even Ferrari 458 Italia, speciale and the GTE. Didn't think my response was too hard to understand.
That doesn't exactly apply to the sentiment that racing games don't always have to have the newest or fastest model of a car, which seems like what @IMZ14U2NV meant to me.
Sure, manufacturers have their say in what cars to license, but the point is there are plenty of cases where a lesser version of a car would have been more enjoyable to some people. Like how Enthusia and Forza Horizon 1 included the E46 M3 GTR instead of the regular E46 M3 or CSL, trading a sweet-sounding I6 engine and more pliable handling for a snorty V8 and track tires. As it happens, Forza has frequently been guilty of this.
Another example is PCARS2 dropping the Caterham Classic, leaving only the 620R. I would appreciate it if @IanBell @The_American could comment on that...?
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Either you understand the fact that -example- Jaguar do not develope any kind of GT3 racing car or you dont.They did give their permission to Emil Frey team to built that car but its not something the factory built.And thats why the car is not an "official" factory car.
Jaguar do not give any kind of support for that GT3 car.Emil Frey has being trying for years to make Jaguar get involved in their project but at this time Jaguar do not want to do that.
And by "official" I mean a car built and developed by a car factory in order to either used by their racing teams or their customers (private teams).
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That's the clarification i figured was missing.
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You wrote it's not an official GT3 car... it is an official GT3 car, even if Jaguar didn't make it, but you clarified your use of official. The word to use would have been "factory" or "works" instead of official. That's all.
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Actually what I did write (that explains the "official") -btw we were talking about the Callaway Corvette GT3- was:
"I know there is a GTE/GTLM Corvette but I dont remember a "GT3" version (officially produced and raced that is)."
"This is a team built and not an "official" Corvette race car similar to the Emil Frey Jaguar GT3 that you see at Blancpain GT series."
Either way the fact is that Corvette does not have a GT3 race car produced,the same way Jaguar does not have one.So not having a GT3 Corvette in the game but have the GTE/GTLM is something to be expected from SMS.
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Wolfe, Thanks for taking the time to explain, I just don't have the patients for people who think it's cute to say silly things. I'm so happy to see that you have the intelligence to get understanding from what you read. I definitely viewed the Forza comment as an insult, especially since I have never owned an xbox of any sort and have never played Forza in my life.
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http://www.callawaycars.com/homepag...t/frequently-asked-questions-callaway-racing/
Pretty sure both Jag and Chevrolet have GT3 cars whether you recognise them or not.
Pretty sure both Jag and Chevrolet have GT3 cars whether you recognise them or not.
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If you go to Chevrolet and order a GT3 spec race car, you get the Cadillac ATS-V.R. You CANNOT go to CHEVROLET and order a Corvette GT3. Chevrolet does NOT build or sell this car. That is a simple fact.
The Corvette C7.R GT3 is built by Callaway Cars, which is an aftermarket tuner of the Corvette and other GM vehicles. It would be like trying to say that a Ruf is a Porsche, or a Spoon is a Honda. They may have started life that way, but they are NOT Porsche or Honda supported or owned.
I really don't understand why so many people have such a hard time grasping this.
Callaway is to Chevrolet what Shelby is to Ford.
Directly from the Callaway Cars website:
I don't know how much clearer it can be.... The licensing for the Corvette GT3 would HAVE TO COME FROM CALLAWAY. General Motors/Chevrolet has ZERO say in the matter, because the car is not theirs.
The Corvette C7.R GT3 is built by Callaway Cars, which is an aftermarket tuner of the Corvette and other GM vehicles. It would be like trying to say that a Ruf is a Porsche, or a Spoon is a Honda. They may have started life that way, but they are NOT Porsche or Honda supported or owned.
I really don't understand why so many people have such a hard time grasping this.
Callaway is to Chevrolet what Shelby is to Ford.
Directly from the Callaway Cars website:
- "Callaway Cars designs, develops, and manufactures high performance specialty vehicles and aftermarket performance products, marketed and distributed under the Callaway brand."
I don't know how much clearer it can be.... The licensing for the Corvette GT3 would HAVE TO COME FROM CALLAWAY. General Motors/Chevrolet has ZERO say in the matter, because the car is not theirs.
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Really? You're going to try to bring that falsehood over here?
You know it's far better than Paul Ricard.... it at least has elevation changes
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