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I know PCARS is quite buggy, but seriously list 1 racing game in the past 3 years on any platform that has been any better. GSCE is the only one and that's built on a 10 year old engine with a lot of rFactor parts, they needed to better explain what they are doing with PCARS 1 because the majority of people are don't know what they are doing.

"It's all about the money
All about the dum dum didudumdum
I don't think it's funny
to see us fade away
It's all about the money
It's all about the dum dum didudumdum
And I think we got it all wrong anyway
Anyway
"
Do yourself a favor and take that crayon that's stuck in your brain out, your comments here are laughable
 
I know PCARS is quite buggy, but seriously list 1 racing game in the past 3 years on any platform that has been any better. GSCE is the only one and that's built on a 10 year old engine with a lot of rFactor parts, they needed to better explain what they are doing with PCARS 1 because the majority of people are don't know what they are doing.


Do yourself a favor and take that crayon that's stuck in your brain out, your comments here are laughable
Mario Kart 8 ;)
 
How is anyone being made to pay? Surely everyone has a choice? They are not making anyone do anything. You can pay to get the game and a load of other goodies (depending on how much you pay) and to be involved in and have a say in the development of the game. There is nothing wrong or cheeky about it.

I think, fundamentally, the vast majority of people having a bitch or a moan about this haven't got a clue what they are talking about. They do not understand or have not bothered to find out what is proposed and just see at as a way to take a cheap shot.
Cute theory but to be honest Project CARS using crowd funding isn't unique anymore and a lot of people are clued in on how Crowdfunding works and how the industry is abusing its use now. Nobody is being forced to buy it, that you are correct about. I wish those involved in the project great luck but its more about the sudden asking of funding out of nowhere when the game is still a shambles for a lot of people, its easy for individuals to say "ive had no issues" but that does not mean they aren't there. Doing a 4 hour race and having the game hang-up because I used one of the in-built features(AI takeover) is not fun or good game design.

Nobody has to find cheap shots to fire at Project CARS, it quite frankly does a good job of finding them itself.
 
All of these cheap shots about "fixing pCARS 1 before starting up the successor" would have more effect if SMS wasn't clearly very busy with the patches.

You guys are acting like pCARS 1 is abandonware, when that's clearly not true.

Sure, if I were in the situation that my pCARS 1 experience was unplayable I might feel unimpressed, but my (PC) experience since launch has been positive with the exception of the FFB, which was improved in the v1.4 patch and is now very good.
 

It was mainly a joke answer because you didn't specify what Racing Game :sly: :lol:

In reality, I would say GRID: Autosport hands down. Only issue with it, is Ravenwest and the Upgrade glitch. Unlike Pcars unplayable glitches.
 
Cute theory but to be honest Project CARS using crowd funding isn't unique anymore and a lot of people are clued in on how Crowdfunding works and how the industry is abusing its use now. Nobody is being forced to buy it, that you are correct about. I wish those involved in the project great luck but its more about the sudden asking of funding out of nowhere when the game is still a shambles for a lot of people, its easy for individuals to say "ive had no issues" but that does not mean they aren't there. Doing a 4 hour race and having the game hang-up because I used one of the in-built features(AI takeover) is not fun or good game design.

Nobody has to find cheap shots to fire at Project CARS, it quite frankly does a good job of finding them itself.
Cute theory? It's not a theory, it's a fact. You don't like P Cars, fair enough your entitled to that opinion. Don't want to have anything to do with the next game, you don't have to, don't give them any more money. Everybody has that choice. But let's not pretend anyone is being forces to do anything they don't want to.
 
Sure, if I were in the situation that my pCARS 1 experience was unplayable I might feel unimpressed, but my (PC) experience since launch has been positive with the exception of the FFB, which was improved in the v1.4 patch and is now very good.
The people who don't have it, have less erg to buy PC1 now though.
 
Cute theory? It's not a theory, it's a fact. You don't like P Cars, fair enough your entitled to that opinion. Don't want to have anything to do with the next game, you don't have to, don't give them any more money. Everybody has that choice. But let's not pretend anyone is being forces to do anything they don't want to.
I addressed that nobody is forced to buy it within my post, I was more talking about you saying people don't understand what pCARS is and how it is funded. If that was the case everyone would blindly buy in and be buzzing about Project CARS 2, not so much the case here. I suppose the good thing is the second one will be heavily discounted weeks after launch too if trend follows. :lol:
 
Why? Because pCARS 2 will be released sometime in 2017 or maybe 2018?

Seriously?


That's like saying "I won't buy GT7 because GT8 will be better when it's released 3-5 years later"
but GT8 hasn't been revealed or even given full on details on what it'll be. Same even goes for GT7, so it doesn't make GT6 look like 🤬 in comparison unlike Pcars1 and Pcars2 which has been revealed in detail.
 
I addressed that nobody is forced to buy it within my post, I was more talking about you saying people don't understand what pCARS is and how it is funded. If that was the case everyone would blindly buy in and be buzzing about Project CARS 2, not so much the case here. I suppose the good thing is the second one will be heavily discounted weeks after launch too if trend follows. :lol:
Proof positive that you yourself don't understand it. They are not funding their next game via this process. They have enough money to fund the next game. This is an opportunity for a select group to be involved in the development of the next game. That's the reason why sign ups will be open for a much shorter period this time. No return on your investment this time. Just a new game and some other goodies at the end and a say in the direction the next game takes. Once again people don't understand or, more likely, haven't bothered to find that out before sticking the boot in.
 
Well are they supposed to say, "we are making a new game but we can't say what we want because it may make our current game look not so good, instead we will wait 2 years to start where the game will be released by 2021."
 
Proof positive that you yourself don't understand it. They are not funding their next game via this process. They have enough money to fund the next game. This is an opportunity for a select group to be involved in the development of the next game. That's the reason why sign ups will be open for a much shorter period this time. No return on your investment this time. Just a new game and some other goodies at the end and a say in the direction the next game takes. Once again people don't understand or, more likely, haven't bothered to find that out before sticking the boot in.
Nope, i'm fully aware about how pCARS2 is working out funding wise. Not sure where you plucked what you wanted to hear from my post to be honest.
 
Well are they supposed to say, "we are making a new game but we can't say what we want because it may make our current game look not so good, instead we will wait 2 years to start where the game will be released by 2021."
No, just keep development Private for awhile, while people can enjoy and experience your product fully. Did Pokemon announce X and Y before Black and White came out? Did SEGA announce Sonic Generations right after the release of Sonic Unleash?
I think all these people that are coming out of the woodwork all of sudden are just pi**ed that know that Pcars2 will be out before GT7
Personally GT6 made I give no 🤬 about GT7, so no.
 
No, just keep development Private for awhile, while people can enjoy and experience your product fully. Did Pokemon announce X and Y before Black and White came out? Did SEGA announce Sonic Generations right after the release of Sonic Unleash?.

Once again someone who doesn't understand. The whole WMD development model is to involve your community and let them have a say in development. Exactly how would they do this if they kept it private?
 
How is anyone being made to pay? Surely everyone has a choice? They are not making anyone do anything. You can pay to get the game and a load of other goodies (depending on how much you pay) and to be involved in and have a say in the development of the game. There is nothing wrong or cheeky about it.

I think, fundamentally, the vast majority of people having a bitch or a moan about this haven't got a clue what they are talking about. They do not understand or have not bothered to find out what is proposed and just see at as a way to take a cheap shot.

I agree, nobody is being made to pay. I didn't say I was furious, I said it is a 'bit cheeky'. I couldn't give a crap if they announce it now. I'll be buying it, but I won't be paying for it until it's released.

I disagree fundamentally with these kickstarter things that give nothing back to the consumer, except the risk that the dev has passed on to the end user. But that's a general point about the games industry and not for this thread.
 
Once again someone who doesn't understand. The whole WMD development model is to involve your community and let them have a say in development. Exactly how would they do this if they kept it private?
With the money they got from 1 million copies sold. I'd expect them not to desperately rely on kickstarter, they have enough money for early private development.
 
Cute theory but to be honest Project CARS using crowd funding isn't unique anymore and a lot of people are clued in on how Crowdfunding works and how the industry is abusing its use now. Nobody is being forced to buy it, that you are correct about. I wish those involved in the project great luck but its more about the sudden asking of funding out of nowhere when the game is still a shambles for a lot of people, its easy for individuals to say "ive had no issues" but that does not mean they aren't there. Doing a 4 hour race and having the game hang-up because I used one of the in-built features(AI takeover) is not fun or good game design.

Nobody has to find cheap shots to fire at Project CARS, it quite frankly does a good job of finding them itself.

Nope, i'm fully aware about how pCARS2 is working out funding wise. Not sure where you plucked what you wanted to hear from my post to be honest.

You clearly don't understand, your first reply to me contained the bit in bold. They are not asking for funding. They don't need other people to fund the game. They are asking people to pay now for a copy of the game (among other things) and to be involved in the development of the game. If you understood that you wouldn't have written the bit in bold.
 
With the money they got from 1 million copies sold. I'd expect them not to desperately rely on kickstarter, they have enough money for early private development.
You have completely failed to read what I have written. They don't want to develop it privately, they enjoyed the experience of developing a game alongside the community and want to do it again. The money they are asking for is not to fund the game. They have the money to fund the game. The money they are giving you the choice to pay now is for a copy of the game and other goodies and for a say in hows it's developed. I'm not sure how many times I need to say the same thing before some will understand.
 
Well the whole developing with the community has failed then with the Backlash.

The pay for say is kinda stupid if you ask me at this point if they have the funds. A lot companies make good game through any feeback from any fan, not the ones who are giving you money. Though we are living in a world where the top priority for a car games is profit so there is that you can add a point to on your score.
 
Whatever technicality PR wants to paint the asking of funds doesn't matter. an 'oppurtunity' to be part of the WMD is still asking for funds. Whether you admit it or not.
You clearly don't understand, your first reply to me contained the bit in bold. They are not asking for funding. They don't need other people to fund the game. They are asking people to pay now for a copy of the game (among other things) and to be involved in the development of the game. If you understood that you wouldn't have written the bit in bold.
 
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Whatever technicality PR wants to paint the asking of funds doesn't matter. an 'oppurtunity' to be part of the WMD is still askingn funds. Whether you admit it or not.
No it's not, for my £100 I get:

Regular PC build access (usually daily) during development
Can read & post on the Project CARS 2 forum
Holds 1 Game Design Votes
Premium Digital Edition version of Project CARS 2 (your platform of choice)
An AI opponent named after you
Gold Member playar avatar identification in-game
Credits listing in the "Special Thanks" section
Exclusive Project CARS 2 Gold Member wallpaper
Digital version of the Project CARS 2 soundtrack
Project CARS 2 "WMD Crew" shirt
Project CARS 2 poster

For me that is good value for money. I'm not funding a game I'm paying for the items listed above. So PR don't have to spin anything is there for you in black and white.
 
No it's not, for my £100 I get:

Regular PC build access (usually daily) during development
Can read & post on the Project CARS 2 forum
Holds 1 Game Design Votes
Premium Digital Edition version of Project CARS 2 (your platform of choice)
An AI opponent named after you
Gold Member playar avatar identification in-game
Credits listing in the "Special Thanks" section
Exclusive Project CARS 2 Gold Member wallpaper
Digital version of the Project CARS 2 soundtrack
Project CARS 2 "WMD Crew" shirt
Project CARS 2 poster

For me that is good value for money. I'm not funding a game I'm paying for the items listed above. So PR don't have to spin anything is there for you in black and white.
I suppose it just depends what you consider good value for money then. Paying for a wallpaper in this day and age seems pretty archaic and to me personally, that seems like a few bits of Brick-a-brac. Good luck on the project. :)
 
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