Project CARS 2 Videos

[Ian Bell]

Well, depending on how much rain falls a track can stay pretty close to dry, at least not affecting driving significantly. As BaldBastard also mentioned, there is localized weather in PC2, so there is no single rain intensity for the track as a whole, it can change pretty quickly as it can in real life. We've had on/off thunderstorms in Hungary recently.

You are right though, the sudden reflectivity change on the road at 16:24 is quite jarring, but before I make any conclusions about it I would like to know the exact graphical settings Jimmy used to record that video. From what I've heard most people who drove PC2 in VR did so at low/medium settings, where I would expect more graphical artifacts like this.

Great video nonetheless. Shame about the crash at the end.

You're going to get sudden reflectivity changes when one part of the track is much wetter than the previous part. I know it's jarring and we discussed it internally but it's actually how it should be when you have localised dynamic weather.

I think a lot of this comes from the assumption that dynamic weather should 'blend in' and we do that, but we also have weather localised on sections of the track and when you drive into that, you get an instant change.

 

[05XR8]

Why argue about transitional wet track conditions? For the love of Pete, we're actually getting accurate changeable weather!

 

[BeetesJuice]

 

[ozwheels]

 

[Corsa]

My favorite video so far, incredibly immersive.

@3:47

It's like driving a big bathtub full of petrol... oh oh off he goes off he goes!! He just took a hot bath full of petrol.

This. Guy. Kills. Me.

 

[fasj6418]

This is not news, but i´ve only seen it now.

It looks like the type of thing Namco would do it by themselves, i have no idea if SMS approved or not.

It´s OK, some mistakes trying to promote the game, but overall it was nice.

Trying to take this as a hint of DLC, who knows what else they have gotten other than Interlagos?

 

[05XR8]

This is not news, but i´ve only seen it now.

It looks like the type of thing Namco would do it by themselves, i have no idea if SMS approved or not.

It´s OK, some mistakes trying to promote the game, but overall it was nice.

Trying to take this as a hint of DLC, who knows what else they have gotten other than Interlagos?

Check Post #92. Hopefully...

 

[Ak1504]

Project CARS 2 WIP | Panoz Esperante GTR1 @ Road America




Project CARS 2 WIP | Dallara IR-12 Chevrolet (Road Course) @ Long Beach Street Circuit

 

[Double Ayyys]

Is it me or do the touring cars in this video appear to be the same physics and sounds as pCars1? I'm noticing the extreme lift off oversteer and the cars seem to be sliding quite a bit. I'm no fanatic about these cars in real life so perhaps they have these characteristics but out of all the videos so far this one is the only one I'm having any concerns over. I understand it's a pre-build but man... felt like I was watching pCars instead...

 

[AllReD]

 

[nrosko]

Very detailed looking track, rs is also looking like a great car to drive just hope we get a few more options for the older rallyx in DLC.

 

[gregc]

Is it me or do the touring cars in this video appear to be the same physics and sounds as pCars1? I'm noticing the extreme lift off oversteer and the cars seem to be sliding quite a bit. I'm no fanatic about these cars in real life so perhaps they have these characteristics but out of all the videos so far this one is the only one I'm having any concerns over. I understand it's a pre-build but man... felt like I was watching pCars instead...

FWD race cars are prone to lift off oversteer. Add to that the fact that most teams and drivers deliberately set them up to be fairly tail happy, to counter the natural understeer and you're not a million miles away from that video - watching it through I'd say it's a maybe little too much, but notice how it settles down after a couple of laps as the rear tyres come up to temp/pressure - that's just like real life. Watch BTCC for a while and you'll hear the commentators talking about a cold inside rear tyre, as someone loses the back in the first couple of laps, pretty frequently.

I've lost count of the number of Clio Cup cars I've seen spinning off on the warm up lap in real life (usually with drivers new to FWD).

And just because it's a cool little vid that also happens to highlight the nature of a FWD touring car:

 

[RomKnight]

I have to agree and it's awesome to drive. totally different feel and it'll give great battles where one mistake can send you from 1st to last

Great little things (way better than wtcc to me).

And it truly is the case that "when in doubt, floor it"

 

[05XR8]

Indeed. I couldn't understand why the Clio over steered so much. Then I watched a Clio Cup race. "Whoop! There it is!"
Anyway, the fwd TCC cars should be fun. Just stand on the gas and all's good.

 

[Dicra]

My two fears for PC2 after watching this video:
1) Rain tyres will be far too good in the dry. They should be at least 4, 5 seconds off the pace and be overheating after just a few corners, however, it seems the AI gets on with them just fine (and I assume they have rain tyres on, otherwise their grip would be completely all over the place)
2) AI will indeed be completely OP whenever the weather changes.

 

[jake2013guy]

My two fears for PC2 after watching this video:
1) Rain tyres will be far too good in the dry. They should be at least 4, 5 seconds off the pace and be overheating after just a few corners, however, it seems the AI gets on with them just fine (and I assume they have rain tyres on, otherwise their grip would be completely all over the place)
2) AI will indeed be completely OP whenever the weather changes.

1 would depend on the type of wet tyre the Radicals use.
You don't really get that understanding from the video as GM was on the wrong tyres so lost tyre temperature pretty quickly.

 

[McKiernan]

My two fears for PC2 after watching this video:
1) Rain tyres will be far too good in the dry. They should be at least 4, 5 seconds off the pace and be overheating after just a few corners, however, it seems the AI gets on with them just fine (and I assume they have rain tyres on, otherwise their grip would be completely all over the place)
2) AI will indeed be completely OP whenever the weather changes.

GamerMuscle is playing on a press build that is quite a bit behind recent builds from all accounts. These concerns about the AI may have already been worked on and tweaked in the newer builds.

 

[BaldBastard]

Maybe @IanBell would be able to clear things up here rather than us relying on guess work?

 

[PhaedrusSocrate]

He always says that same argument.

But since it was confirmed by producer (@The_American @IanBell ) that game went gold "weeks ago" there is fantastic oportunity to start bombarding us with actual OFFICIAL and NEWEST gameplay and features videos from CONSOLES!

Competing games are still far from their "gold" so at this moment the pCARS 2 gold console builds should be really superior to competing titles?

It seems it is last moment to start doing so...
Take a look at this info in regards of preorder/rating status of pCARS 2 on PS Stores:

You can leave a ranking on a game purchased or pre-ordered on PSN.

As of today:


US PSN

GTS Regular - 59.99 - 740 ratings

GTS Deluxe - 79.99 - 94 ratings


Pcars2 Regular - 59.99 - 3 ratings

Pcars2 Deluxe - 89.99 - 16 ratings


ITA PSN (might be cumulative from all EU countries ? UK and Spain are the same)


GTS Regular - 59.99 - 37 ratings

GTS Deluxe - 69.99 - 361 ratings


Pcars2 Regular 69.99 - 9 ratings

Pcars2 Deluxe - 99.99 - 15 ratings


Pcars2 - 21 days till release

GTS - 47 days till release

Absolutely true, but main issue here is that when looking at how many people pre-ordered (and then rated) pCARS 2 and GTSport on various PSN stores - we see that on US store GTSport is ahead by 40 times (not 4 times, or 12, or 25... but 40 times!) and on EU store it's 17 times (1700%). In my opinion that is not really big problem but what IS is that pCARS 2 developer is likely to do NOT MUCH to appeal to PS4 or Xbox players with actual on-console produced trailers, diaries or whatever...

It is reasonable to assume, given very problematic launch of pCARS 1, that most gamers are now more likely to buy only DISC of pCARS 2 because they have a chance of selling it if history repeats it self... So that MIGHT explain those very low PSN store numbers.

That's not huge problem, as the fact they are pushing me away from my preorder of pCARS 2, disc version, by going for that "we want reviewers to wait with reviews until AFTER they get day 1 patch" bull-thing!

I want pCARS to become awesome competition for two console racing-sim giants, and I think that if they have any sorts of problems like last time, they should just openly say so NOW and ask for reasonable understanding from us. Because if they fail console players again like last time, they will totally lose chance to ever amount to that greatness I wish them to achieve (for my own driving pleasure).

Really if you want to stay behind attitude of "rewievers should rewiev our game only AFTER they get day one patch" you are not going to get any more support from CONSOLE players! You stand to lose even more!

Please start making us happy with strong marketing blitz of ON-CONSOLE produced content featuring gameplay and features as they are ON CONSOLES. PS4 and Xbox, please.

 

[Dicra]

GamerMuscle is playing on a press build that is quite a bit behind recent builds from all accounts. These concerns about the AI may have already been worked on and tweaked in the newer builds.

And maybe not.

Also, it's not only the AI, it's also the rain tyre grip on a dry track that was already completely off when the first game launched.

 

[StephBambinho]

New career walkthrough video by GameRiot on yt, but I can't upload it here.
You'll see which path he chose..

 

[ozwheels]

He always says that same argument.

But since it was confirmed by producer (@The_American @IanBell ) that game went gold "weeks ago" there is fantastic oportunity to start bombarding us with actual OFFICIAL and NEWEST gameplay and features videos from CONSOLES!

Competing games are still far from their "gold" so at this moment the pCARS 2 gold console builds should be really superior to competing titles?

It seems it is last moment to start doing so...
Take a look at this info in regards of preorder/rating status of pCARS 2 on PS Stores:







Really if you want to stay behind attitude of "rewievers should rewiev our game only AFTER they get day one patch" you are not going to get any more support from CONSOLE players! You stand to lose even more!

Please start making us happy with strong marketing blitz of ON-CONSOLE produced content featuring gameplay and features as they are ON CONSOLES. PS4 and Xbox, please.

Ironic isn't it? The same questions day in and day out followed by the same answers. Honestly if people have concerns about what has already been answered 5 million times then those concerns aren't going to eased unless people try it for themselves.

Comparing ratings of a game that isn't out yet, really? That's one of the dumbest things on PSN. How can you rate a preorder?

Edit: @Dicra In the video you quoted he was on slicks not rain tires. He said that while it was raining.

That was one of the best wet weather videos we've seen. A clear dry line that remained through most of the race and the differences in grip from the dry to wet line and the puddles was clear. He also didn't instantly crash in the rain like was possible in pCars 1. Big improvement in my eyes.

 

[PhaedrusSocrate]

You are hurting this game by twisting around meaning of the post!!

It is not about rating (they all got Same 5 rate) it's AMOUNT of ratings!

Better do something ACTUAL on CONSOLES and stop hitting the messanger! I care...

 

[ozwheels]

You are hurting this game by twisting around meaning of the post!!

It is not about rating (they all got Same 5 rate) it's AMOUNT of ratings!

Better do something ACTUAL on CONSOLES and stop hitting the messanger! I care...

You are talking about rating a preorder. There is no discussion to be had.

 

[GTsimms]

Wait for Day 1, it will be Sept. 22, 2017. But, from my experience it feels really 🤬 good compared with real life and not comparing it with another game title.💡 SMS has done an outstanding job. But, yeah it sucks atm as WMD 2 will soon be wrapping up. But, that gives us hope for a future WMD 3.

 

[Bealdor]

And maybe not.

Also, it's not only the AI, it's also the rain tyre grip on a dry track that was already completely off when the first game launched.

What do you mean with "completely off"?
Why should rain tyres be multiple seconds slower in the dry?
Their rubber compound is even softer than slicks so why should they have so much less grip over one lap?

 

[Dicra]

What do you mean with "completely off"?
Why should rain tyres be multiple seconds slower in the dry?
Their rubber compound is even softer than slicks so why should they have so much less grip over one lap?

Because of overheating and because of the fact only a fraction of the tyre actually touches the road due to the profile.
Also, I know that GamerMuscle had slicks. However, I'm not sure whether the AI cars did - if they had rain tyres, at least the AI cars handle them far too well in the dry - and I'm also not sure when it comes to the rain tyre grip in general, as already said, which doesn't necessarily relate to the video.

 

[jake2013guy]

Because of overheating and because of the fact only a fraction of the tyre actually touches the road due to the profile.
Also, I know that GamerMuscle had slicks. However, I'm not sure whether the AI cars did - if they had rain tyres, at least the AI cars handle them far too well in the dry - and I'm also not sure when it comes to the rain tyre grip in general, as already said, which doesn't necessarily relate to the video.

We don't know what the wet weather tyre actually is. It could just be some sort of All-Weather tyre which allows to be run in the dry and the dry is just a slick.

 

[05XR8]

We don't know what the wet weather tyre actually is. It could just be some sort of All-Weather tyre which allows to be run in the dry and the dry is just a slick.

Exactly this.

He also picked "01/12/2017... Winter... 15:00". Making track conditions cold.

 

[PhaedrusSocrate]

You are talking about rating a preorder. There is no discussion to be had.

No, I am NOT talking about rating a preorder. I do not care about rating AT ALL... I am talking about amount of preorders, ok? This is indicative of difference in number of preorders for those two games on that particular CONSOLE.

And that SMS should start blitzing the CONSOLE market with content produced on CONSOLES (both PS4 and Xbox)... I think it is fail of them (SMS) to hide from this oportunity, they are so low that they have nothing to lose. Even if game is really poor on CONSOLES they would still gain customers - yes, because numbers from PS Store are that low, they would only gain more even if game runs poorly!

But I don't beleive it runs poorly! They say it went GOLD "weeks ago" - witch means it runs much better then its competition that won't hit gold any time soon.
But instead they are Runing Under The Table in multiple ways! By not courting CONSOLE market with targeted material produced on console... And by wanting rewievers to rewiev game "ONLY AFTER day 1 patch"! And it takes at least two weeks to rewiev sim like this...

Also they could simply tell rewievers what exactly will patch improve, so thay can calculate that into rewievs...

Anyway, I'm just confused and sad... but on other hand, game will not dissaper after release, so yes, I will not pre-order then - since I'm forced to wait till after release to get any type of CONSOLE targeted content.

Only... if I wait even only 2 or 3 weeks, then much more famous competitors will get released as well. And will have to chose where to alocate my limited time. The window for pCARS 2 is NOW! NOW. Not "after day 1 patch release" bullthing...

You are hurting this game by twisting around meaning of the post!!

It is not about rating (they all got Same 5 rate) it's AMOUNT of ratings!

Better do something ACTUAL on CONSOLES and stop hitting the messanger! I care...