Project cars DLC

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We were never told that the DLC in those games would have integration. That's the difference.

Sorry i bought the Digital download from the Playstation Store and was unaware this was written anywhere

The cars in particular were and are usable in there respective classes in A-Spec. They would also show up as competitors.

Once again sorry i only remember the DLC being used in seasonals
 
Sorry i bought the Digital download from the Playstation Store and was unaware this was written anywhere



Once again sorry i only remember the DLC being used in seasonals

So long as the car can pass the restrictions on an A-spec race it can be used in that race. You can use the Toyota TS030 at the 24 minutes of le mans and do the same with the new Nissan, for example. On the other hand, there is absolutely no integration of the Bentley Continental GT3 in any GT3 series in the Project CARS career mode and no invitationals for the others.
 
So long as the car can pass the restrictions on an A-spec race it can be used in that race. You can use the Toyota TS030 at the 24 minutes of le mans and do the same with the new Nissan, for example. On the other hand, there is absolutely no integration of the Bentley Continental GT3 in any GT3 series in the Project CARS career mode and no invitationals for the others.

I can remember being able to choose a DLC car for A-spec but i cannot remember the DLC cars being used by the AI
But what about the DLC tracks were they integrated ,I know DLC tracks for GT5 were then written in for GT6
 
This Ian Bell is really pissing me off, he first refuses to work on the safety car on the grounds of it making the races "boring" and taking time (well everything takes time) even though this is supposed to be a racing simulator. And now he brushes off career mode support for DLC like it doesn't matter. Wow...just wow. I bought the DLC expecting for career mode integration (not immediately but in updates) as several members on here said there would be (the same was said for safety car and other features that now appear to be all lies) but thanks to Ian Bell and his decesion to take the easy way out since he has our money is just plain sleazy. Don't get me wrong, I love the game, but I am pissed off as hell at the maker of the said game.
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I think it's funny how people expect SMS to rewrite their career mode every month for a new car . People would still wine and cry if they did this (not pratical) because they would have to back and redoit .
 
I think it's funny how people expect SMS to rewrite their career mode every month for a new car . People would still wine and cry if they did this (not pratical) because they would have to back and redoit .

They wouldn't have to redo the entire career every month. SMS would have to add contracts for the new cars in their respective classes and series. The players would have access to the content after completing their current season. I don't see what's so complicated about this.
 
They wouldn't have to redo the entire career every month. SMS would have to add contracts for the new cars in their respective classes and series. The players would have access to the content after completing their current season. I don't see what's so complicated about this.
If was simple i'm sure they would , i'm not a programer so i will not go on and on how easy it is .
 
I think it's funny how people expect SMS to rewrite their career mode every month for a new car . People would still wine and cry if they did this (not pratical) because they would have to back and redoit .
Plenty of games have additional car support for their respective career modes, what's so funny? :lol:
 
Whats funny is you didnt mention one .
Driveclub for another. :)

It's funny because a prime fundamental of modern coding is abstraction. If SMS haven't intentionally ignored abstract coding practices its a bit odd looking on their part from the programming design prospect.
 
Ian Bell on the forum said DLC are not and won't be integrated into the career, so for ex is impossibile to get a contract from bentley GT3. The only integrated dlc are those from the release date: limited edition and preorder bonus.

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Then will the Bentley Continental GT3 ever be available to be raced with and against in the GT3 and GT Endurance career modes?

We won't be adding career functionality retrospectively no.

WTF? Why bother with dlc then? I got sick of hotlapping in GT games, since that's all they were good for, so I don't do anything but career in Project CARS. The career in Project CARS is great (apart from all the bugs), so why not take advantage of what the dlc cars/tracks could do for the career?

This is a massive disappointment...
 
Yo, guys. So this Ian Bell bloke that you are all hatin' on is actually not as bad as you think. If you all lot post on the forums and constructively explain why they should do it, I think there is a good chance it will happen. Maybe ask the VBR guy, or whoever made that thread about the controllers + wheel at the same time. He seems to have th magic touch. Don't forget, this is not Kaz you are dealing with...
 
WTF? Why bother with dlc then? I got sick of hotlapping in GT games, since that's all they were good for, so I don't do anything but career in Project CARS. The career in Project CARS is great (apart from all the bugs), so why not take advantage of what the dlc cars/tracks could do for the career?

This is a massive disappointment...

Omg. why does people still cling to playing a competition:esque game in single player mode??? why?

If I am not dreaming this is 2015 and games should be focused on multiplayer by now. Single player should (if not a old style rpg or adventure game) be nothing else but a kind of tutorial mode for the main mode "The Online Multiplayer". Racing games should be e-sport not a single player boring as hell experience. please stop playing the game if you will just complain about small things like that, you hurt the game for us that want an evolution of racing games..

Bedsides there are far more important things in this game that have to be fixed..
 
Omg. why does people still cling to playing a competition:esque game in single player mode??? why?

If I am not dreaming this is 2015 and games should be focused on multiplayer by now. Single player should (if not a old style rpg or adventure game) be nothing else but a kind of tutorial mode for the main mode "The Online Multiplayer". Racing games should be e-sport not a single player boring as hell experience. please stop playing the game if you will just complain about small things like that, you hurt the game for us that want an evolution of racing games..

Bedsides there are far more important things in this game that have to be fixed..
Not everyone has the time to dedicate themselves to MP racing nor do they want to put up with a lot of BS from those casual racers that quit games, ram, cut corners, etc...I like SP because it allows me to play on my time and if I get an important phone call I can pause the game. Whereas in MP the best thing you can do is run off the track and resume later.

But if you design competitive AI that can give you a fun, authentic racing experience, how is that boring? Yes you can get that right away in MP, but you either deal with frustration from joining random races or dedicating a lot of time (or very specific time which can be an issue) to joining a league/series. Stop trying to drag down an evolution of increased user experience.
 
an evolution of increased user experience will be for an example a career mode with online players instead of crappy AI that drives as bad as those "casual players". Sure you cant pause but then maybe you should not play a game that tries to give the player a sim like experience.
 
an evolution of increased user experience will be for an example a career mode with online players instead of crappy AI that drives as bad as those "casual players". Sure you cant pause but then maybe you should not play a game that tries to give the player a sim like experience.
I tried to avoid the topic of crappy AI drivers by saying "if you design". So if it is poor, then yes, it was a waste of time. But for me (PC), it has been fairly enjoyable. Although I haven't played the game too much yet.

So why shouldn't I play a sim game because I have more important things in life than playing a video game? My life revolves around racing but a video game/sim is the least important thing for my life goals. Eventually my time will free up and I will be able to dedicate more time to MP racing (which back when I had the time 5 years ago gave me some really enjoyable experiences), but for now the SP racing gives me flexibility with my schedule.

I will say though, the campaign could have gone without the media posts. Stuff like that I don't think is necessary. Someone obviously did though.
 
Because, if it your daily scheldue that is the problem then don't blame the game for it. I have not even once touched the career in this game but it really looks way better and more interesting than the usual grinding style career modes in other games. And like I said, modern games in the modern age is all about competitiveness against other online players. If you bought the game for the single player career grind car mode then I guess you should look elsewhere, like Forza or GT. Not every game/developer want to deliver the same game experience as found in other games and they maybe don't have the time to program for it with all the bugs present in the game :P
 
It's a bit late for June... Monthly free cars my arse.

Seriously, it's really starting to seem like they've hung this game out to dry.
Chill out man. I'm sure it'll average out to one car per month, even if every car doesn't fall within a calender month. It costs money to release patches/DLC/updates, so they will take every opportunity to bundle things together when they can.

Seems like SMS is giving up on PCARS. I'm glad I never bought it...
Yup, completely. Looks like someone broke into the studio at night to come up with the 2.0 patch.

They got their money, now they're getting lazy
See above.

Yo, guys. So this Ian Bell bloke that you are all hatin' on is actually not as bad as you think. If you all lot post on the forums and constructively explain why they should do it, I think there is a good chance it will happen. Maybe ask the VBR guy, or whoever made that thread about the controllers + wheel at the same time. He seems to have th magic touch. Don't forget, this is not Kaz you are dealing with...
Don't you find it funny that this forum and the PCars Official Forum are full of the threads and examples of people communicating with the devs and getting things fixed and/or incorporated into the game, yet people continue to mindlessly complain about not getting what they want? Devs can't win for losing even when they try to do the right things.
 
Omg. why does people still cling to playing a competition:esque game in single player mode??? why?

If I am not dreaming this is 2015 and games should be focused on multiplayer by now. Single player should (if not a old style rpg or adventure game) be nothing else but a kind of tutorial mode for the main mode "The Online Multiplayer". Racing games should be e-sport not a single player boring as hell experience. please stop playing the game if you will just complain about small things like that, you hurt the game for us that want an evolution of racing games..

Bedsides there are far more important things in this game that have to be fixed..

That's your opinion, here's mine.
I hate online, I have not and will not touch it in any racing game. Personally if online was dumped completely I wouldn't care a bit.
I want a robust and exciting sp experience, and the advances in AI that have and will come is something to look forward to.
A vast number of players put their heart and soul into offline sp, and surely if you read the forums enough that should be obvious.
It's horses for courses and we all like different things. I would give up on racing games if your attitude to offline ever took hold.
 
Then you probably will have to give up on racing games because I only see a future in racing games when the career mode is filled with online players instead of crappy AI that no studio to date in about any game have got it to work as a natural and logical as a real player. I guess it will take quite some time before AI will be as good as a real human. Just look at LOL, Dota and other similar competitive games, that evolution will trickle down to racing games sooner or later.
Who needs AI :P


The only thing they have to do is to come up with a system that can somehow match racers with other racers so that if those who want to have a clean race for a full sim experience will be able to race together. And others that want to play more arcade or casual game will be matched with similar minded people to get what they desire.

But that is what I feel is next thing in the near future, maybe next GT will have a mode like this as it is the game that really suffers the most from this issue we call bad AI
 
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Omg. why does people still cling to playing a competition:esque game in single player mode??? why?

If I am not dreaming this is 2015 and games should be focused on multiplayer by now. Single player should (if not a old style rpg or adventure game) be nothing else but a kind of tutorial mode for the main mode "The Online Multiplayer". Racing games should be e-sport not a single player boring as hell experience. please stop playing the game if you will just complain about small things like that, you hurt the game for us that want an evolution of racing games..

Bedsides there are far more important things in this game that have to be fixed..

"Omg", maybe because some of us have a life buddy. There's no need to be so rude to people because they play a game for a different reason to you. I have very little to no interest in online, because 90% of players are rubbish and will ram you off the track to win, and if you want to race in a series with decent players you have to commit to a schedule like a job.

Single player modes in game should absolutely not be dumped in favour of online, because if they were, game sales would suffer, because games aren't only about playing online. Online racing has nothing at all to do with the "evolution" of racing games. It's just another type of multiplayer. I fail to see how me stating that dlc content not being incorporated into the career is disappointing, is hurting the game for you enough that you demand I stop playing the game.

I could just as easily tell you if you want to race against real people go get a licence and learn to drive a real car, but that would be as idiotic as what you suggested. "Everyone plays the game for the same reason as me don't they? and if they don't, they should, or they can **** off". <-that's what your posts look like.

Because, if it your daily scheldue that is the problem then don't blame the game for it. I have not even once touched the career in this game but it really looks way better and more interesting than the usual grinding style career modes in other games. And like I said, modern games in the modern age is all about competitiveness against other online players. If you bought the game for the single player career grind car mode then I guess you should look elsewhere, like Forza or GT. Not every game/developer want to deliver the same game experience as found in other games and they maybe don't have the time to program for it with all the bugs present in the game :P

I bought the game for exactly the opposite reason. I bought it because it promised an open career progression, and not a grind fest. Ffs the career was the most hyped thing about this game after the physics, why would you think nobody cares about it or that the online is what it's all about? Clueless.
 
So in other words you bought this game to play single player career just to win? Ok, there is no prizes or anything so just for winning against a boring AI that you probably knew would be bad? talk about wasting time. In gt or even forza you are awarded with cars and stuff and in multiplayer you get the feeling of satisfaction when wining over real humans especially after dogfighting it out. even if I don't win i feel satisfied after a good race.

And I do not mean to be rude, it is how I personally feel. after all, I talk from my own experience and want to make clear how I feel, and dont take things so seriously. it is afterall a text based forum and a person interpreters a text based on how he is feeling right now. So if you interpreter things badly because someone is not agreeing with you well all that is on you :P

and about the racing, well I occasionally do race but cars are boring as hell irl. Two wheels spice things up a bit compared to four. :P
 
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So in other words you bought this game to play single player career just to win? Ok, there is no prizes or anything so just for winning against a boring AI that you probably knew would be bad? talk about wasting time. In gt or even forza you are awarded with cars and stuff and in multiplayer you get the feeling of satisfaction when wining over real humans especially after dogfighting it out. even if I don't win i feel satisfied after a good race.

And I do not mean to be rude, it is how I personally feel. after all, I talk from my own experience and want to make clear how I feel, and dont take things so seriously. it is afterall a text based forum and a person interpreters a text based on how he is feeling right now. So if you interpreter things badly because someone is not agreeing with you well all that is on you :P

and about the racing, well I occasionally do race but cars are boring as hell irl. Two wheels spice things up a bit compared to four. :P

The AI in Project CARS is often more of a challenge than what I encountered when I used to play GT6 online, and considering you said you haven't even touched the career, you have already formed quite the opinion on it haven't you?

I bought the game to experience the simulation. The realism of the physics, and part of the simulation is the simulation of a motorsport career. The way they've done it is quite good. If I wanted to play 12 year olds who play bumper cars into turn one, I'd play online. And as I said, I don't have the spare time to commit to a schedule of online racing series' with half decent drivers. I've gotten more satisfaction out of the couple of weeks I've played this game an hour or two at a time, than the whole time I spent playing GT6 online.

It's not you disagreeing with me that I found rude, it's how you presume to know what I, or everyone else for that matter, wants out of a racing game, and then go on to say if we don't like how you would prefer the game to be, maybe we shouldn't play it.

Also if you think cars are boring to race, you either haven't raced the right cars, haven't actually raced against anyone, or you're just making stuff up. Either way it doesn't bother me. From your lack of ability to comprehend a view other than your own, I would've guessed you're about 13 years old.
 
Chill out man. I'm sure it'll average out to one car per month, even if every car doesn't fall within a calender month. It costs money to release patches/DLC/updates, so they will take every opportunity to bundle things together when they can.

Yup, completely. Looks like someone broke into the studio at night to come up with the 2.0 patch.

See above.


Don't you find it funny that this forum and the PCars Official Forum are full of the threads and examples of people communicating with the devs and getting things fixed and/or incorporated into the game, yet people continue to mindlessly complain about not getting what they want? Devs can't win for losing even when they try to do the right things.

I see your point but it just doesn't seem like they're trying particularly hard with anything.

Patch 1.4 was supposed to fix all the pitstop problems and from what I've seen its not actually done so.

The monthly DLC is just the icing on the cake, I don't even want the car but when they've said we'll be getting one every month and then fail to deliver that in the second month it's a bit cheeky. We have two days left of the month so maybe but I'm not sure.

Yeah it's a good game but it's got some pretty glaring problems and they don't deserve as much praise as they are getting.
 
The AI in Project CARS is often more of a challenge than what I encountered when I used to play GT6 online, and considering you said you haven't even touched the career, you have already formed quite the opinion on it haven't you?

I bought the game to experience the simulation. The realism of the physics, and part of the simulation is the simulation of a motorsport career. The way they've done it is quite good. If I wanted to play 12 year olds who play bumper cars into turn one, I'd play online. And as I said, I don't have the spare time to commit to a schedule of online racing series' with half decent drivers. I've gotten more satisfaction out of the couple of weeks I've played this game an hour or two at a time, than the whole time I spent playing GT6 online.

It's not you disagreeing with me that I found rude, it's how you presume to know what I, or everyone else for that matter, wants out of a racing game, and then go on to say if we don't like how you would prefer the game to be, maybe we shouldn't play it.

Also if you think cars are boring to race, you either haven't raced the right cars, haven't actually raced against anyone, or you're just making stuff up. Either way it doesn't bother me. From your lack of ability to comprehend a view other than your own, I would've guessed you're about 13 years old.

Hehe, No I dont presume anything. I just write how I see things/experience from my point of view and of course I want to hear how anyone else see things from theirs point of view. If not I would not even right here. But it seems as you take everything so personal, it is za webb chill a bit man :D

I wish I was 13, so much fun, so little responsibilities.

Have not raced a car, only tracked but still. We can compare a car vs a bike on a track.
A car is slow, heavy and you sit protected in it and you basically dont do anything trying/strenuous bedside concentrating/focusing on where you want to go. A bike is simply more demanding as it it harder to ride fast. Firstly it is a fast rocket, it accelerate way faster than a simple car, sports car or a low level race car. And I am talking about a stock bike here.

It means that for a fraction of price of a car I can experience 0-100 in 3sec or 0-200 i like 8 sec or something stupid like that. It means you yourself is holding on to a rocket for you dear life, and when you want to turn you have to force the bike and its weight down and then up again on the straight. It is kind of workout at 240+ kph. and you cant change directions as in a car, if you have chosen a bad line then you have to stick with it. and don't forget the concentration on top of that. It simply takes more effort to ride fast on a bike compared to a car. That is a fact :P

If you do a mistake it will cost you more than a paintjob a mirror or a some minor damage on the car, it may cost your life, and it make your blood boil.

Riding a bike is more rewarding, it is after all you that does everything on a bike..
 
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