Project CARS - Logitech Wheels NOT Supported on PS4

[GTAndy36]

... you can't run pCARS maxed out on a PC with less than a GTX980 today, you know. Even a 970 doesn't quite cut it, at least if you want sufficient AA/AF. You spend basically the cost of the PS4 on the graphics card to max out pCARS, and that's just the way it is. Unless you want triples, in which case dual titans seems wise

On topic there's so little to talk about. Still no news that Logitech is suddenly reentering the market, no sign of a device which can magically give the G27 full FFB on the PS4 or Xbox One, so nothing interesting to talk about.

We could talk about Thrustmaster still not having their quality assurance able to cope with demand and plenty of guys having issues with their new wheels, but at the end of the day getting a working wheel might require patience and an RMA, but in most cases it won't.

Myself, and two friends have bought T300's in the last few weeks, and none of us have had any issues. None with the pedals and none with the wheel. Maybe the first few batches were a bit hit and miss?

 

[shoemaker]

Still issues with new T300 wheels then?

this is what is putting me off.too many people reporting problems.hopefully they will get ironed out soon, usually quality improves after the first few months with new wheels

 

[skazz]

There are a couple of posts per week of issues with T300 wheels posted on the T300 megathread. Of course, the guys with issues post, the guys without issues just get down to enjoy their wheels.

But yes, Thrustmaster clearly isn't up to Logitech standards of quality control at the moment. I assume it's them being overloaded with demand, since they are a niche company 100x smaller than Logitech.

Personally I bought a first batch T300 and had to get RMA. The replacement is fine, as is my late 2013 T500, late 2013 Ferrari GTE rim and my brand new TH8A.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Myself, and two friends have bought T300's in the last few weeks, and none of us have had any issues. None with the pedals and none with the wheel. Maybe the first few batches were a bit hit and miss?

I think we need more posts like this in this thread. It's so easy for us to focus on the one or two guys that pop in and say they are having problems and of course we need that feedback too, but there could be 20, 30, 50 or more good experiences for every bad, but if we don't hear more about them, we only focus on the bad and it distorts our perception.

Tell your friends to post here too:idea:

 

[GTAndy36]

As skazz said, the only people you hear from are the people with issues... which is only natural. The people without issues are happy playing the game!

It's the same with all new gear though, especially technology. There's always a few problems.

 

[RoccoTTS]

As skazz said, the only people you hear from are the people with issues... which is only natural. The people without issues are happy playing the game!

It's the same with all new gear though, especially technology. There's always a few problems.

It was the same story with Fanatec when they started with the CSR, i also had a set of bad pedals, but they replaced it by new pedals.

And why do you thing Logitech has better quality ? Because they build the G25/27 for so many years.

 

[Termite111]

I've bought my T300 recently tried it once on Driveclub which I hated (the game) which seemed to work fine and it's been sitting in my wardrobe since waiting for PCars so I hope it is ok and I then don't have to wait for a replacement when the games finally out. Think that'll tip me over the edge. Lol

 

[GTAndy36]

And why do you thing Logitech has better quality ? Because they build the G25/27 for so many years.

That's a question for @skazz .

I would say the build quality of the Thrustmaster is top notch in my experiences so far. This is coming from a DFGT user for many years, and an owner of the T300 for 3 days... so I can't really bring much to this debate!

I've bought my T300 recently tried it once on Driveclub which I hated (the game) which seemed to work fine and it's been sitting in my wardrobe since waiting for PCars so I hope it is ok and I then don't have to wait for a replacement when the games finally out. Think that'll tip me over the edge. Lol

I'm actually on Driveclub now for it's first run with the T300. Yeah, it's force feedback doesn't really give any feedback... but it's not the worst I've tried with it. Grid Autosport takes that crown by a mile.

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

I love GAS with the right wheel settings it was mint, but that was on the G27. Best racing game for PS3 i think.
Overall i still think its better game than DC.

 

[GTAndy36]

I love GAS with the right wheel settings it was mint, but that was on the G27. Best racing game for PS3 i think.
Overall i still think its better game than DC.

I remember it was ok on the DFGT... but when I played it yesterday it was awful. Just awful. And the framerates... don't even go there

The game itself is a good idea. Good career progression. The problem I have isn't with all that though.

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

I remember it was ok on the DFGT... but when I played it yesterday it was awful. Just awful. And the framerates... don't even go there

The game itself is a good idea. Good career progression. The problem I have isn't with all that though.

The T300 isn't compatible with GAS, or it wasn't.

 

[shoemaker]

That's a question for @skazz .

I would say the build quality of the Thrustmaster is top notch in my experiences so far. This is coming from a DFGT user for many years, and an owner of the T300 for 3 days... so I can't really bring much to this debate!



I'm actually on Driveclub now for it's first run with the T300. Yeah, it's force feedback doesn't really give any feedback... but it's not the worst I've tried with it. Grid Autosport takes that crown by a mile.

is it the game giving not alot ffb or is the wheel ? i always found the g27 pretty lame, i like a bit of a struggle

 

[GTAndy36]

The T300 isn't compatible with GAS, or it wasn't.

The game reads it as the T500.

is it the game giving not alot ffb or is the wheel ? i always found the g27 pretty lame, i like a bit of a struggle

From what I can tell it's the game giving the wheel scraps to then hand over to me. It's almost like the wheel can cope with such advanced FFB, that the lame amount the game gives just isn't enough to give to the user. If that makes sense... which probably doesn't because I said it.

Maybe the problem is the game reads it as the T500... and the technology in each of the wheels are completely different, kinda.

 

[gast1976]

wake me up!!!please
is it a nightmare?

when a new game arrive, normally all features must improve
FFB ? IA? GAMEPLAY?RACING WHEELS?
YES
but the problem is : my DFGT logitech is in my bedroom drawer... since a few months (RIP my PS3)
and i m still hoping that i can use it on my PS4
i don't have sufficient fund to re-buy a new PC...
i m so sad

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

The game reads it as the T500.


From what I can tell it's the game giving the wheel scraps to then hand over to me. It's almost like the wheel can cope with such advanced FFB, that the lame amount the game gives just isn't enough to give to the user. If that makes sense... which probably doesn't because I said it.

Maybe the problem is the game reads it as the T500... and the technology in each of the wheels are completely different, kinda.

Had a few friends who used the T500 on GAS with no problems, so the 300 probably still isn't compatible.

If it was i think i would go back on it again, the online racing is miles better than DC and the RaceNet challenges was great fun, oh and the leaderboards for every car class too

 

[helicon2]

Bought the T300rs on 13th February from Amazon UK. Played Driveclub a fair amount since and no problems for me - both wheel and pedals work fine.

My last wheel was a Microsoft Ffb Sidewinder(?), which broke many years ago. Found my old TOCA 2 and Grand Prix Legends CD's and stuck them on and got them both working with the wheel!

 

[skazz]

On the PC version of GAS they added a T300 default profile in a post-release patch. I haven't tried the PS3 version but find it hard to believe it wouldn't work. Especially since Thrustmaster list T300 support in GAS on PS3 in their support site: http://ts.thrustmaster.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=3&fid=15&pid=375&cid=12

Re: build quality differences.... In my experience Logitech gear is plastic but very very sturdy. I used my G25 from 2007-2014 and it felt bulletproof. The only reason I have it packed up in the loft is because the T300 is better in every way.
I only used my DFGT for a few years but it was as tight as new when I packed it in the box. My Fanatec GT2 needed a codewheel sensor replacement from new and squeaked but was otherwise fine for the two years I ran it as my console wheel. My year old T500 works great, but I had to go through RMA for a T300.

So anecdotally I can say with confidence that Logitech has given me the best user experience and that G25 is an amazing workhorse!

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

Yes there was on PC but not on PS3 for GAS
http://blog.codemasters.com/grid/05/grid-autosport-supported-wheels/

http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/3531/thrustmaster-t300rs-support

 

[Jump_Ace]

this is what is putting me off.too many people reporting problems.hopefully they will get ironed out soon, usually quality improves after the first few months with new wheels

No issues here, the problem is the ones who have problems are vocal. Those thousands of us who have working units, you don't hear from us.


Jerome

 

[Johnnypenso]

No issues here, the problem is the ones who have problems are vocal. Those thousands of us who have working units, you don't hear from us.
Jerome

Please gather them all up and send them to this thread

 

[NLxAROSA]

No issues here, the problem is the ones who have problems are vocal. Those thousands of us who have working units, you don't hear from us.

This, and that a lot of the really fast guys/gals simply put more stress on the wheel than others. When I was still playing with the fast peeps in GT5P/GT5 they burned through several G25s, G27s as well as T500Rs's, while my trusty old G25 just kept on going. I always figured it was because I wasn't as fast as these guys and not pushing as hard...

 

[Simfan David]

Hey guys. I bought my t300 about a month ago and the only issue I had was the pedals. The potentiometer on the brake was malfunctioning so I contacted customer service. After I updated the wheel and still no difference in the brake, I knew that wouldn't work, I had to send a video showing the brake being pressed and the t300 software showing that the brake was not working. They immediately sent me a new set of pedals. Took about a week. All in all I have to say even though disappointed about the issue, there customer service was great. I've put some time into driveclub with no other issues. Great wheel!! I highly recommend it. Well it's the only option for ps4. But a good one at that. I would like to ad that I cut a small piece of a dense foam ball and stuck it in the space between the brake arm and back stop. Added some good progression to it. Works like a charm. When I get home I'll take some pics and post.👍

 

[GTAndy36]

Had a few friends who used the T500 on GAS with no problems, so the 300 probably still isn't compatible.

On the PC version of GAS they added a T300 default profile in a post-release patch. I haven't tried the PS3 version but find it hard to believe it wouldn't work. Especially since Thrustmaster list T300 support in GAS on PS3 in their support site: http://ts.thrustmaster.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=3&fid=15&pid=375&cid=12

Yes there was on PC but not on PS3 for GAS
http://blog.codemasters.com/grid/05/grid-autosport-supported-wheels/

http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/3531/thrustmaster-t300rs-support

The T300 is read as the T500 on the PS3 version, that's all I know about the support for it. I also know that no matter how good the core game is (I agree each mode is great) the gameplay is so awful it's unplayable for me after experiencing other racers recently. The framerate is a joke, especially for a racer. And the wheel feels so numb and inert, no matter what settings I use.

If you are able to get enjoyment out of it though, fantastic.

 

[CrustyA]

I got my T300 at the beginning of Feb and have had no issues with the wheel thus far. It's probably only getting moderate use (few times a week for a couple hours).

I was coming from a G27 with GTeye spring and I felt the T300 pedals (specifically the brake) were useless. The brake went to the floor way too easily with little to no progressive rate. I never ended up using the T300 pedals other than to try them out once as I quickly switched to Clubsport V2 pedals.

But so far the T300 wheel has been fine.👍

 

[GTAndy36]

I got my T300 at the beginning of Feb and have had no issues with the wheel thus far. It's probably only getting moderate use (few times a week for a couple hours).

I was coming from a G27 with GTeye spring and I felt the T300 pedals (specifically the brake) were useless. The brake went to the floor way too easily with little to no progressive rate. I never ended up using the T300 pedals other than to try them out once as I quickly switched to Clubsport V2 pedals.

But so far the T300 wheel has been fine.👍

You should've used the DFGT pedals mate. You think the T300 pedals are hopeless... they are 3x better than them bad boys

I'll be switching to my shiny new Clubsport V2s as well, as soon as the CPX arrives. No PC

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

The T300 is read as the T500 on the PS3 version, that's all I know about the support for it. I also know that no matter how good the core game is (I agree each mode is great) the gameplay is so awful it's unplayable for me after experiencing other racers recently. The framerate is a joke, especially for a racer. And the wheel feels so numb and inert, no matter what settings I use.

If you are able to get enjoyment out of it though, fantastic.

So you don't like it then

For me it was the best racer i played on PS3, i still have a loads of friends still on it, most got a PS4 and DC and then went back to GAS, but its what ever your into i guess.

 

[GTAndy36]

@Zakspeed_TV I just don't like it because the FPS makes it unplayable for me.

The game structure I like very much.

 

[thegt500]

Well, my T300RS has survived it's first week without issue. Been using it with GT6 and GT5 on PS3 and Drive Club on PS4.
The build quality is much higher than my DFGT, it's also quieter and smoother in use than the DFGT. The best thing though has to be the step up in FFB feel on the 300. The DFGT while good, cannot hold a candle to the feel the 300 gives when, for example, you start to slide in a corner.
The Logitech wheel doesn't seem to communicate the transition from grip to understeer as well as the Thrustmaster does. It's smoother, more progressive giving you a better 'feel' for what the tyres are doing. As an experiment, I took the Audi R18 (stock settings) out on Le Mans using the DFGT first, then the T300RS. The FFB settings were set the same for both wheels (5 & 5) and with the 300 I was nearly 2 seconds a lap faster. I can only put this down to the better 'feel' the 300 gives which allows you to push harder into and out of corners, plus it doesn't shake and wallow as the DFGT does on the main straight leading to Mulsanne kink.
All in all, I'm impressed but will of course report back if there's any niggles with it.

 

[VBR]

This, and that a lot of the really fast guys/gals simply put more stress on the wheel than others. When I was still playing with the fast peeps in GT5P/GT5 they burned through several G25s, G27s as well as T500Rs's, while my trusty old G25 just kept on going. I always figured it was because I wasn't as fast as these guys and not pushing as hard...

I know of an alien fast guy who broke his G25, snapped the rim in half! However, I think it's because some people are heavy handed with the wheel, whereas I'm not at all.


👍

 

[GTAndy36]

I know of an alien fast guy who broke his G25, snapped the rim in half! However, I think it's because some people are heavy handed with the wheel, whereas I'm not at all.


👍

Also, some people insisted to use the strongest FFB settings back on GT5 if I'm remembering correctly... which simply ruined wheels... and it wasn't realistic either. It felt like you were steering an 18-wheeler without power steering. Daft.