Project CARS - Logitech Wheels NOT Supported on PS4

[VBR]

Look I want it to work as bad as the next guy,yes my G27 and Driving force GT are useless. Wish all you want.

You misunderstand me, I'm not wishing anything, merely pointing out that assuming it won't work is just as futile as assuming it will work. Until Logitech themselves make a statement regarding this issue, will won't know for sure either way. So why not just wait & see what happens.

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[azidahaka]

If Logitech "will not work on PS4", why did they make the following tweet that they are working on PS4 support then?


"..we're still working on PS4 support. updates will be posted to the forums when there is news." Source.


Seeing as no updates have been posted, I guess that means there's no news as of yet. I for one am willing to wait until there is some news, & not just make blind assumptions!

My honest opinion? I think it was a tweet from a minor marketing guy trying to not get customers angry and lowering "brand value" and customer satisfaction. Or maybe from someone clueless about the real issue at hand.

 

[F1Racer68]

I don't see anything in those statements that says they won't be making drivers for their existing products on PS4. Again, you are reading too much into it & making assumptions.

It's not an assumption, it's a fact. There are 3 terms used within the technology industry:

• End of Sale - The date a company decides to no longer sell a product
• End of Support - The date a company stops supporting a products
• End of Life - The date a product is no longer a viable option for it's role

Logitech announced that all of their CONSOLE gaming peripherals would be End of Sale by December 31st, 2013. By default, that means that those same products would be treated as End of Support by Dec 31st 2014. This is based on those products generally being sold with a 1 year warranty.

How do I know all of this? Quite simply, because I work in the Technology industry (No I will not say where, and no it is not Logitech).

As to your comments about the Twitter statement you saw, I saw that as well. I assume you are referring to this one:

"we're still working on PS4 support. updates will be posted to the forums when there is news."
https://twitter.com/Logitech/status/404035965255442433 November 22, 2013

It was a generic comment posted by some low ranking Social Media Relations employee who has no idea what their bigger plans are. It was a typical "Sorry to hear your frustration Mr. Customer. Let me look into that for you." response designed to appease a disgruntled customer. Note that it was posted in November of 2013.

And you talk about us reading too much into something?

Here is the last response by Logitech to this Twitter exchange, dated July 2014.

"Nope, no news on our end. Stay tuned for potential updates though."
https://twitter.com/Logitech/status/489495588762046465 July 16, 2014

There is now news about an update form Logitech because they are not going to be bothering with it. They clearly stated in their 2013 announcement that they were "refocusing their resources". That means people, money and time.

I don't know how much clearer it can be for you.

Feel free to keep believing what you want, but don't expect much in the way of sympathy when you finally realize that you have to bite the bullet and buy a new wheel for your PS4. There was a reason Logitech made their announcement to leave the Console market by the end of the year in 2013....... because the PS4 and Xbox One launched in November of 2013. This meant Logitech could have a nice clean cut departure from the business while that business was in transition.

Now, much like Logitech, i must refocus my resources on other areas and abandon this futile discussion.

The End.

EDIT: The Twitter "embed" function didn't work, so I c/p'd the text and provided the links.

 

[VBR]

Except that massive one: in order to make wheels work on PS4, Logitech would have to pay them.

Where was that reported, link please.

Really? I mean, we have a clear statement for Logitech regarding their new focus on PC peripherals only. You see this as a open windows to, by pure miracle, they change theirs minds in order to bring an out dated piece of harware working for a very niche market. And yet, we are the ones making assumptions and "reading to much into it".

Logitech said they were not gonna make any hardware for consoles any more. But where did they say they weren't gonna make any software for their existing range of wheels?

Yeah, they did that. Ages ago. I don't know if you know how these things work, but very often, people behind social media don't know squat. Specially in big, global corporations.

That may be true, but seeing as neither you nor I know who was making those tweets, it's pointless to make assumptions. I would make an educated guess that a world class company like Logitech wouldn't let an idiot loose on their official Twitter account.

Since that tweet, they have been asked the same thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over again and yet, not a single new "we are still working on it".

If you actually read all the tweets in the link, you'd see that they did actually respond several times.

The simple truth is that we have a fact: Logitech steped out from console hardware business. That includes PS4, Xbone, PS3 and X360. What's left is just wishful thinking.

Yes, they steeped out of the hardware business, which means that they don't intend at the present to make any peripherals for PS3, XBox 360, PS4, XBox 1 etc. However, they have made no recent statements about whether they will or won't be supporting their existing range of hardware products on those platforms. After all, the G25 & G27 are not console peripherals, but are made for the PC, & they are still making them.

Stop assuming things, have some patience & see what Logitech announce in the future. They may very well say that they decided to not make PS4 drivers. But wouldn't it be wise to wait for an official statement instead of assuming for yourself what will or won't happen?

 

[Z Crazy]

My only problem with Logitech is their BS way of dealing with it. They screwed people over to make more money. Their public statement was ambiguous enough to go under the radar to those buying $300 wheels (under the impression support would be available). After the PS4's hit the market and compatibility issue rose, they still sent out smoke-screen messages saying "its on Sony"... Now a year or so later the truth is out there and they are basically saying "we told you this 18 months ago". A garbage way to handle this. Honestly, I think it opens them up to litigation (a class-action) because they choose hide behind a very ambiguous message specifically to sale more "unprofitable" wheels that were not going to work with the current systems on the market.

But ultimately, decisions like that hurt the company's image beyond repair. There's no way I'd pay for another Logitech product after this PC, PSx, or otherwise.

 

[VBR]

It's not an assumption, it's a fact. There are 3 terms used within the technology industry:

• End of Sale - The date a company decides to no longer sell a product
• End of Support - The date a company stops supporting a products
• End of Life - The date a product is no longer a viable option for it's role

Logitech announced that all of their CONSOLE gaming peripherals would be End of Sale by December 31st, 2013. By default, that means that those same products would be treated as End of Support by Dec 31st 2014. This is based on those products generally being sold with a 1 year warranty.

How do I know all of this? Quite simply, because I work in the Technology industry (No I will not say where, and no it is not Logitech).

The G25 & G27 are not console peripherals, they are PC peripherals, & Logitech has made no statements about ending their production. So, it's not a fact until Logitech make an official statement either way.

As to your comments about the Twitter statement you saw, I saw that as well. I assume you are referring to this one:

"we're still working on PS4 support. updates will be posted to the forums when there is news."
https://twitter.com/Logitech/status/404035965255442433 November 22, 2013

It was a generic comment posted by some low ranking Social Media Relations employee who has no idea what their bigger plans are. It was a typical "Sorry to hear your frustration Mr. Customer. Let me look into that for you." response designed to appease a disgruntled customer. Note that it was posted in November of 2013.

Oh, so you know them then? What was their name? Job title? You know for sure that Logitech let low ranking social media relations employees loose on their Twitter account?

Neither you nor I know who Tweeted that, so it's pointless to make assumptions about it. It may very well have been a low level employee, or it may have been someone who knows something we don't, either way it's pointless to make assumptions.

Here is the last response by Logitech to this Twitter exchange, dated July 2014.

"Nope, no news on our end. Stay tuned for potential updates though."
https://twitter.com/Logitech/status/489495588762046465 July 16, 2014

There is now news about an update form Logitech because they are not going to be bothering with it. They clearly stated in their 2013 announcement that they were "refocusing their resources". That means people, money and time.

Well I don't know about you, but I'm gonna 'stay tuned for potential updates'! You don't know for sure that Logitech "are not gonna bother with it", you're just assuming their not.

Feel free to keep believing what you want...

I don't believe anything, again you misunderstand. I neither believe Logitech will support nor won't support their existing range of wheels on next gen consoles. I'm just saying that it's pointless to make absolutist assumptions either way. I think it's best to be patient & see what Logitech has to say.

...don't expect much in the way of sympathy when you finally realize that you have to bite the bullet and buy a new wheel for your PS4.

I've already been bidding on ebay for a long while now for a cheap second hand PS4 compatible wheel. But you're too busy making assumptions about me to realise that.

Now, much like Logitech, i must refocus my resources on other areas and abandon this futile discussion.

I agree, your conversation is futile!

 

[F1Racer68]

My only problem with Logitech is their BS way of dealing with it. They screwed people over to make more money. Their public statement was ambiguous enough to go under the radar to those buying $300 wheels (under the impression support would be available). After the PS4's hit the market and compatibility issue rose, they still sent out smoke-screen messages saying "its on Sony"... Now a year or so later the truth is out there and they are basically saying "we told you this 18 months ago". A garbage way to handle this. Honestly, I think it opens them up to litigation (a class-action) because they choose hide behind a very ambiguous message specifically to sale more "unprofitable" wheels that were not going to work with the current systems on the market.

But ultimately, decisions like that hurt the company's image beyond repair. There's no way I'd pay for another Logitech product after this PC, PSx, or otherwise.

I don't think they are open to litigation quite honestly. They made a pretty clear statement that they were exiting the console peripherals business. The fact that people assumed that their existing devices would be supported on consoles that had not even been released at the time of their announcement can't really be blamed on them.

Having said, that, I have to say I do agree with you in regards to not buying any of their products going forward. I will be looking at other vendors in the future.

 

[Ian_83]

Having said, that, I have to say I do agree with you in regards to not buying any of their products going forward. I will be looking at other vendors in the future.

It's fairly safe to assume that Logitech are damaging their reputation at present and many upset customers are going to buy from other manufacturers. Logitech are probably saving money, but they are probably loosing sales in other departments as a result of the lack of PS4 compatibility......

......I'm avoiding Logitech at the moment. I've already made three purchases within the past six months and I avoided buying Logitech products in protest. Their loss, not mine.

 

[Tired Tyres]

I've cancelled my Project Cars pre-order. I tried to play GT6 with a DS3 and I just couldn't do it. I have to use a wheels now or it's just not worth the effort, I therefore cannot face the idea of playing Project Cars with a DS4.

I'll buy the game only when Logitech support for PS4 is added, and if it isn't then it's no more race games for me on console.

 

[Ian_83]

I've cancelled my Project Cars pre-order. I tried to play GT6 with a DS3 and I just couldn't do it. I have to use a wheels now or it's just not worth the effort, I therefore cannot face the idea of playing Project Cars with a DS4.

I'll buy the game only when Logitech support for PS4 is added, and if it isn't then it's no more race games for me on console.

I'm in the same position.

I could get Pcars on the PC though, but I would much prefer to get it on the PS4, but using a DS4 isn't an option and there is no way that I can afford or justify buying a T300 + T3PA-Pro and shifter.

I'm playing other types of PC simulators instead. I haven't actually used my PS4 for 2 or 3 months and I cancelled the PS Plus thing, I simply don't need it. I hate to say this, but at the moment I can't see the need for me to have a PS4, which is awful as it was given to me as a present and it makes me feel bad that I'm not using it.

 

[Dimse91]

I really hope that there will come in a near future a really reliable converter which will let G27 fully connect to ps4... Atleast things like M4 are trying to do theyr best, but still they have a place where to improve.

 

[VBR]

I have bought a cheap second hand PS4 off ebay, & haven't even pre ordered Project CARS as of yet. Still looking for a cheap second hand wheel for day one compatibility, but can't find one. So I guess I'll be waiting to buy P CARS until I've found one, or Logitech sort themselves out.

 

[super_gt]

I have bought a cheap second hand PS4 off ebay, & haven't even pre ordered Project CARS as of yet. Still looking for a cheap second hand wheel for day one compatibility, but can't find one. So I guess I'll be waiting to buy P CARS until I've found one, or Logitech sort themselves out.

Just be patient and wait 👍

 

[Nato_777]

The G25 & G27 are not console peripherals, they are PC peripherals, & Logitech has made no statements about ending their production. So, it's not a fact until Logitech make an official statement either way.

And PS3 compatible (possibly by good fortune rather than by design). Where Logitech needs to get their head out of their butt is that if still producing a wheel why wouldn't they maximize their sales potential by ensuring compatibility with the current generation of consoles. PS4/XBOne have been around long enough and have sufficient user base to be considered current gen imho. PS3/360 are now last gen and the potential for new wheel customers on those consoles is past its best whereas there is currently great potential for new customers with PS4/XBOne especially as the racing genre is really only just beginning to start up. By not providing G27 support now for the new consoles they are losing wheel sales big time, in fact the horse has probably already bolted with many existing G27 owners and new wheel purchasers opting for alternative brands. So far Logitech has only created a bad taste in the mouths of many console owners most of which are likely PC owners too (or at least future owners) that may well shun the brand because of it.
It seems to me that Logitech are just no longer interested in the racing genre period! I'm certainly not holding my breath for any solution but I guess there is the remote possibility they might wake up one day and realize that providing console drivers for an existing product isn't really going against their PC only statement.

 

[the_D_]

Its got nothing to do with software drivers, it has to do with the fact that the patented force feedback technology was to include all hardware up to and including PS3. Sony nor Logitech are not willing to stump up the multi millions it would take to get its availability for PS4, and the whole 'needs a compatibility chip' was just a shut up to their loyal fan base. The patent runs out in December this year, freeing up the ability to use the un patented force feedback without cost nor lawsuit.

 

[VBR]

Its got nothing to do with software drivers, it has to do with the fact that the patented force feedback technology was to include all hardware up to and including PS3. Sony nor Logitech are not willing to stump up the multi millions it would take to get its availability for PS4, and the whole 'needs a compatibility chip' was just a shut up to their loyal fan base. The patent runs out in December this year, freeing up the ability to use the un patented force feedback without cost nor lawsuit.

The patent for force feedback technology belongs to Immersion, & that most certainly will not run out in December. Where did you get that information from?

The court case was between Sony & Immersion, not Logitech. It was about Sony breaching Immersion's patent regarding their Dual Shock controllers, not FFB wheels. Source.

Logitech, as well as all other FFB wheel makers, have to pay Immersion a license fee for the use of their patented FFB technology. Other wheels are used on the PS4 such as Thrustmaster & Fanatec, so saying that Logitech can't do the same is absurd.

There's so much misinformation, misunderstanding, & outright assumptions in this thread that someone trying to find out what's actually going on is gonna be left bewildered by it all!

 

[dolande]

Is the ffb exclusive to consoles?. Logitech is supported by pcars in PC so I assume it has ffb

 

[Nato_777]

There's so much misinformation, misunderstanding, & outright assumptions in this thread that someone trying to find out what's actually going on is gonna be left bewildered by it all!

That's because neither of the companies involved have come out with a clear conclusive statement detailing exactly what is going on. All statements to date are too ambiguous and have led to this confusion over whether or not Logitech wheels will ever become PS4/XBOne compatible.

 

[VBR]

That's because neither of the companies involved have come out with a clear conclusive statement detailing exactly what is going on. All statements to date are too ambiguous and have led to this confusion over whether or not Logitech wheels will ever become PS4/XBOne compatible.

Unfortunately it seems to be human nature that whenever there's a lack of information our imagination steps in to rescue us by filling in the blanks!

And it is indeed true that all the companies involved could've got together for the sake of their customers & made things clearer.


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[Ian_83]

Seen this recently.....

This is the notification we received from our product specialist regarding the G27 Racing Wheel and PS4 compatibility.

"Unfortunately, our existing Logitech G wheels don’t work with next-generation systems. This is often a side effect of a new platform launch. However, we’re always evaluating opportunities and appreciate all of our customer feedback."

Hope this information helps.

Katy05
Support Specialist

Source

 

[VBR]

They're just acknowledging the fact that it doesn't work, which is telling us what we already know! Nice that they appreciate customer feedback though.

Would be good to hear exactly what conclusions were reached from their "evaluating opportunities".

A very politician like answer; say something - without actually saying anything!!!

 

[Ian_83]

and......

Our Gaming product team had confirmed that our existing Logitech G wheels don’t work with next-generation systems. However, Logitech is still evaluating opportunities to collaborate with Sony in resolving this matter.

Unfortunately, your current G27 Racing Wheel unit will not work on a PS4 gaming console, not unless an appropriate hardware is added to make it compatible.

Giddie01
Support Specialist

Source

I find this interesting.....

not unless an appropriate hardware is added to make it compatible

I'm pretty sure that this isn't true, Fanatec have got a way around the security chip and the Thrustmaster T500 has no problems. So what 'appropriate hardware' do we require?

 

[VBR]

So what 'appropriate hardware' do we require?

They might be referring to the 3rd party USB adapters that give partial functionality to Logitech wheels.

 

[Ian_83]

They might be referring to the 3rd party USB adapters that give partial functionality to Logitech wheels.

I thought that they were referring to any Thrustmaster wheel with or without a 'security chip' which is compatible with the PS4.

 

[VBR]

I thought that they were referring to any Thrustmaster wheel with or without a 'security chip' which is compatible with the PS4.

Could be either or neither!

That's the result of all the vague & contradictory information emanating from Logitech staff. I just wish they'd get their act together & make an official statement that stands true.

Doesn't matter much to me anymore as I have a second hand Fanatec GT2 on it's way, OH YEAH!

 

[Ian_83]

Doesn't matter much to me anymore as I have a second hand Fanatec GT2 on it's way, OH YEAH!

Well done.

Do you mind me asking how much it cost?

 

[the_D_]

There is no security chip, information as vague as it is, as VBR said, is very politician like, as I said earlier, time will tell, but they won't.

 

[F1Racer68]

They're just acknowledging the fact that it doesn't work, which is telling us what we already know! Nice that they appreciate customer feedback though.

Would be good to hear exactly what conclusions were reached from their "evaluating opportunities".

A very politician like answer; say something - without actually saying anything!!!

That's exactly what it is. Designed to tell you that you are SoL, without actually pi$$ing you off. By ending it with a vague suggestion that maybe there is some hope you will be left feeling better about owning something that is now and forever totally useless if you are a console only gamer.

 

[GTP_federsch]

Excuse me... are all of you aware of this petition?

https://www.change.org/p/sony-add-logitech-and-fanatec-wheel-support-to-ps4, please, check it out and sign.

Waiting for G27 to be compatible with PS4.

Greetings.

 

[F1Racer68]

Excuse me... are all of you aware of this petition?

https://www.change.org/p/sony-add-logitech-and-fanatec-wheel-support-to-ps4, please, check it out and sign.

Waiting for G27 to be compatible with PS4.

Greetings.

Yep. Been there.... done that..... It's been up for a long time (about a year?).