PS3 General Discussion

[harrytuttle]

No. Unfortunately, when they put in Bluetooth they dropped all forms of RF.

Ahem.

I am sure a third-party somewhere is working on a USB RF remote that will be universal with everything else. If they aren't they should be. Of course, I have heard the argument (not from experts though) that Bluetooth may be a remote standard in the future.

They are, and have been. This one:
http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=113
is better than using the old PS2 remote and an IR dongle. So clumsy, that one, and so unreliable.

But this:
http://www.schmartz.com/product.sc?categoryId=1&productId=4
seems to be the best solution. Some work involved, but it's a real slick. Uses the front power contact for power or something. Plus both the Nyko and Schmartz products have easily learnable IR commands.

But by now, if you can afford a $400 PS3 and a custom remote that doesn't suck (unlike this), you can probably afford the $300 basic Sony BD player anyway. So I guess it's all pointless anyway. I think Sony's decision to keep the PS3 Bluetooth-only is purely marketing. When both the PS3 and BD were relatively new to the market, using the PS3 as just a BD player would have seriously undercut the credibility of the then-standard $1,000 BD players. Why make it that easy for the consumer?

 

[FoolKiller]

You will find plenty of users complaining about similar disc reading problems on this website:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board?board.id=ps3

You would think that if there was a common issue they would have patched that pretty darn quick. Guess not.

Conspiracy last? It must be a conspiracy!

Well done, sir.

Ahem.

Sorry, I should have said IR not RF. I know better, but didn't pay attention to what I was typing, I guess.

I am assuming that is your point.

They are, and have been.

Good info. I never was concerned because I never needed it, and I rarely ever buy third-party peripherals.

In fact, I think the only one I have right now is the DFP, and that may be argued as second party.

I think Sony's decision to keep the PS3 Bluetooth-only is purely marketing.

The Wii uses it too so there might actually be some benefit to it. Or it is just to prevent miscommunication between the IR sensor and the system communications.

When both the PS3 and BD were relatively new to the market, using the PS3 as just a BD player would have seriously undercut the credibility of the then-standard $1,000 BD players. Why make it that easy for the consumer?

I'm not sure that argument can completely work. It may hold some truth but as Sony has admitted using the PS3 to help BD and analysts have given the PS3 credit for helping the BD victory I doubt their goal was to create confusion in the market. Any benefit they got from that only lasted a year during the adoption phase, which is when the PS3 was most important to Blu-Ray.

Plus, it isn't as if they made it widely known that the remote was Bluetooth only so the $1,000 stand-alones were better if you felt $400 was worth the convenience of not having an extra remote.

Honestly, after using the PS3 remote I wish all my remotes were Bluetooth.

 

[FoolKiller]

If you want official Sony licensed clothing they are finally going to make them.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/05/no-shirt-sony-launches-official-apparel-program/

Here is the current list of what properties have been listed so far:

I believe the GT products may be popular around here.

 

[Picc84]

lmao just a little bro... hahaa

 

[FoolKiller]

lmao just a little bro... hahaa

What you won't be sporting a Little Big Planet hoodie with that fancy pink logo?

Actually I am hoping to see some Patapon stuff.

 

[Robin]

Actually I am hoping to see some Patapon stuff.

Yeah Patapon stuff would look great in its odd arty way...

No doubt Killzone stuff will also appear...

Robin

 

[Nitrof1]

http://www.techpowerup.com/54580/Sony_and_Microsoft_Discuss_Blu-ray_for_Xbox_360.html


and MS wishes mercy from SONY

 

[alba]

blu-ray is useless Nitrof1, HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT? MICRO$OFT IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!!

I'm so happy that they've got bitten back in the ass

 

[Nitrof1]

aahha you're right alba. BL is unnecessary. why would I need 50gb in a disc anyway? lol

somehow I guess MS killed HD-DVD to switch Bluray. Looks like a conspiracy but possible scenario.

 

[Robin]

Sony has to make a serious decision because on the one hand they could make a lot of money making and selling units for 360 use or not allow them to use it at all because it might harm their PS3 sales base...

Depends which ones earns them more money, selling out or staying exclusive..

Robin

 

[Sprite]

Sony has to make a serious decision because on the one hand they could make a lot of money making and selling units for 360 use or not allow them to use it at all because it might harm their PS3 sales base...

Depends which ones earns them more money, selling out or staying exclusive..

Robin

True but if its only a Blu-Ray player alla HD-DVD addon then that would be a plus for Sony and not a bad thing.

 

[FoolKiller]

Sony has to make a serious decision because on the one hand they could make a lot of money making and selling units for 360 use or not allow them to use it at all because it might harm their PS3 sales base...

Depends which ones earns them more money, selling out or staying exclusive..

Robin

Well, if we are just talking about an add-on movie player then they would probably mostly make money on that end because it then becomes just another Blu-Ray movie player. And the only PS3 sales lost would be people who already own 360s looking for a Blu-Ray player. And Sony could focus more on the PS3 other aspect of the PS3, which could be a win for PS3 gamers.

Now, if they allow a new SKU with an internal drive that can play games too Sony may lose out on PS3 sales, but I don't foresee that happening for the same reasons Microsoft didn't do an internal HD-DVD drive after the prices dropped; Early adopters would be left out in the cold.


Now next-gen will most likely see internal Blu-Ray on XBox, but by then Sony will be focusing on other aspects of the system because the HD format war is over.

 

[Dead_Poetic]

Sony really made the right decision. And now it will actually pay off.

 

[Formula1Driver]

If I was Sony I think I would prevent Microsoft from getting Blu-Ray rights for as long as possible, once everyone has HDTVs and whats to play HD games they will want a PS3. Even if M$ would throw a ton of money at them for the rights I think Sony could make alot more money keeping BR exclusive to the PS3. Cause we all know that all the X360 kids will jump right back onto the 360 or whatever the future Xbox is called once it gets BR.

 

[land sea air]

It's not Sony's decision to make, they have as much say as any of the other companies involved.

 

[FoolKiller]

Not to mention that it would be both illegal and bad business ethics.

Plus, if Microsoft gets a BD player then Sony makes money from the XBox.

That's right, Sony will profit from XBox sales. Even with Blu-Ray on the 360 I feel the PS3 is the better system and so I think that lost sales will only be to those who had Blu-Ray keeping them from buying a 360. Because let's face it die hard Sony haters will always buy XBox, but now Sony will get some of their money too.

 

[Beerz]

Update on the PS3 problems:

I've already talked to the guys at the store, they said it's the first time they heard of a similar problem. I'm taking it in today for repair.

Plus, yesterday it started doing some other weird stuff. You know the 'loading' icon on the upper right corner of the screen, like when it's loading a web page? Now it's always there, even on the XMB. I've tried restarting it, doesn't work.
Another thing is when I'm browsing the web, the pages sometimes start to scroll by themselves. Sometimes slowly, sometimes fast, sometimes upwards, sometimes downwards. Sometimes I move the arrow to reach a link on the right of the screen, and the page scrolls up or down proportionally.

It's really freaky...

 

[Robin]

Its possessed...

 

[Jedi2016]

Beerz, have you tried restoring it to defaults and/or re-updating the firmware? It sounds more like a software problem than hardware.

Mind you, I think restoring to defaults erases the hard drive, so you'll want to back up game saves and the like.

 

[Beerz]

Yes, I believe it does. Problem is I don't have a backup drive. Most I could do was to backup game saves onto the USB pen disk and give it a try.


But what about the fact that it doesn't read ANY disc type I put in it? Could that be a software generated problem too?

 

[Dead_Poetic]

Do you hear the drive functioning?

 

[icelt]

But what about the fact that it doesn't read ANY disc type I put in it? Could that be a software generated problem too?

Yeah it seems plausible to me, although probably pretty unlikely. Then again I'm not a computer hardware engineer so...

If you've already backed up all your save data, I'd think resetting the unit back to its factory settings like Jedi mentioned is not a bad idea for a last ditch effort.

 

[Beerz]

It 'sucks' them in and after they're inside I hear a brief sound (probably the laser positioning, it's my bet). After that, nothing. Like it's dead.

 

[icelt]

It 'sucks' them in and after they're inside I hear a brief sound (probably the laser positioning, it's my bet). After that, nothing. Like it's dead.

Well a very similar thing happened to me last year on my 1st gen PS2. Turned out is was a dead disc drive motor. Obviously that does not, and would not, explain the OS issues you are experiencing. You might have multiple problems. Not unheard of, but still uncommon

 

[Beerz]

Awesome.

Anyway, as I had nothing to lose, I backed up all the stuff I really needed and am currently formatting it . (almost 4h estimated time, geez)

I'll post as soon as I have news (good or bad).



But you're probably right, icelt. It may be a mechanical failure, especially because the way things happened. It may have been stressed out in any way due to tha problem while entering a match on CoD4.

 

[Beerz]

NEWS FLASH!!!


Just finished formatting PS3 and resetting to default settings, and guess what?


It's exactly the same as before! 👎
All it did was waste 4 hours of my life. Cool , huh?

 

[Robin]

NEWS FLASH!!!


Just finished formatting PS3 and resetting to default settings, and guess what?


It's exactly the same as before! 👎
All it did was waste 4 hours of my life. Cool , huh?

One man and his PS3 eh.... Oh well worth a shot... at least you've ruled software out so it must be mechanical..

 

[Jedi2016]

Well, now you know.. hehe. On the plus side, you can tell Sony that when you call them, that you've already tried resetting the system back to factory and the problem is still there.

Besides, it's better to try it and know than to just blindly send it off for repair, and forever wonder if you could have fixed it yourself.

 

[nissan tuner]

so whats the word on the in-game XMB

 

[icelt]

NEWS FLASH!!!


Just finished formatting PS3 and resetting to default settings, and guess what?


It's exactly the same as before! 👎
All it did was waste 4 hours of my life. Cool , huh?

That sux big fat ostrich huevos. Sounds like it is time to bite the bullet and get that puppy back to Sony as fast as possible for repair.

Edit----
errr... interesting spelling on huevos I originally had there.