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Saw the Add on tv last nigh and now i know i can play ps and ps2 games on it i just may go buy one
ps my ps2 slim has external psu
ps my ps2 slim has external psu
PS3 General Discussion
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lol...that list is so horrible...off in tons of ways, and so misleading.
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Best launch list in gaming history!
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There have been ads for the PS3 on tv? In the US? What did it say?
I've been reading rumours that the HD-DVD add on for the 360 will be around $200. If that's true when added to the 20GB 360 it comes to $599, the same as the 60Gb PS3. Saying that there are rumours that the 20GB 360 will be bundled with games for November onwards at the same price. Even so if the HD-DVD add on is $200 (which is significantly cheaper than HD-DVD players which cost around $500) when you look at it from a hardware point of view the PS3 would still be better value as the 360's HD DVD hasn't been designed to fit into the 360 as well as the PS3 having a 60GB HDD (which is also upgradable).
For some it may be nice to have the choice to buy the HD-DVD add on or not but if the price is going to be $200 then it's really not that attractive.
The PS3 still has all the components I want wrapped up in one neat package.
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No doubt the PS3 is better value. I guess it's for those who already have the XBOX 360 or Windows XP
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Mr Deap
Well, that's it. I have a 360 and a possible price of £150 for the HD DVD + the £280 I already paid does not make it better value than a 60GB PS3 at £425. That's why I don't intend to get it. Thing is HD is important to me as I have a HDTV and I intend to get a 1080p tv in the next 3-4 years. And HD is important for quite a few people now, or if not now they will be in a few years. Only the PS3 (out of that and the 360) gives me that future-proofing.
I don't have Windows Media Center for my 360. I got it for the games which is why I still have it. But the PS3 I want for the games, the backwards compatability, the Blu-ray, the HDD, the downloads (though that's still an unknown variable at the moment) as well as other little things. The value is there, it's just the inital outlay of money is high.
Well, I might get the HD DVD add on sometime, particularly if certain movies may not get a Blu-ray release. But I wonder how many will buy a 360 + the HD DVD player together?
If I remember correctly some said the Blu-ray put an extra $200 onto the PS3. Others said around $100.
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Alright! Scarface is coming out launch day! Oh, I'm gonna get that one, for sure!
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Mr. Deap - I wasn't saying the launch titles are horrible, I'm saying that list is horrible. It's not accurate at all.
Also, regardless as to what you may think, within the next 5 years, High Def TV will become immensely popular, and MANY people will "care" about it, what's wrong with being prepared for the future? Absolutely nothing, unless you like "upgrading" your hardware with "expansions"...waste of money.
Solid - Scarface was canned for all next gen consoles a few months back IIRC.
Also, regardless as to what you may think, within the next 5 years, High Def TV will become immensely popular, and MANY people will "care" about it, what's wrong with being prepared for the future? Absolutely nothing, unless you like "upgrading" your hardware with "expansions"...waste of money.
Solid - Scarface was canned for all next gen consoles a few months back IIRC.
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What? WHAT?! They canceled this game!? First E3, and now this! I can't take it anymore! [yanks out hair while screaming]You bastards! First E3... and now this... Arrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!![/yanks out hair while screaming]
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Wow the Wii is so small! I love it. 
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Yep, next gen development was pulled about a month and a half ago, if I remember right.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154823.html
The PS3 version was canned long ago, then the 360 version came next, and then they moved it to PSP.
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You'll never get it, it's not a game, and a GT won't be out for another 2 years, maybe 1 year.
But, the good news is, we'll all be able to play those GT demo's that Asia and Europe get on a regular basis, you'd just have to import them.
But, the good news is, we'll all be able to play those GT demo's that Asia and Europe get on a regular basis, you'd just have to import them.
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That right, even if it is released around PS3 launch day, it'll just GT4(with a few extras) in high def. But I doubt Vision GT will be released at all.
Lucky bastards
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We interrupt your spamming to bring you this important real news about the PS3.
PS3 Not Playable In Leipzig, Wii Only For Press
Another pre-launch battle is about to be waged between Sony and Nintendo towards the end of this month. The battlefield - Germany's Leipzig Games Convention 2006, taking place between August 23-27. Nintendo has already promised to make a big announcement at the show (hopefully relating to the Wii launch date), but the question is: will the two next-gen consoles be playable at GC 2006?
According to a couple of stories from DarkZero, not... entirely. Even though both companies will have their own booth at the show, it appears that none of Sony's PS3 launch titles will be playable at GC, and only select members of the press and retail will be allowed to get a hold of Nintendo's Wii.
DarkZero reports that Sony will be holding off all PlayStation 3 games until the Tokyo Game Show (which takes place later this year), and that their booth from the Leipzig GC will remain void of all PS3 demo units. However, that doesn't mean that third-party publishers will aslo follow in their footsteps. One way or the other, some PS3 games - such as Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed - are expected to be playable in Leipzig, although public access to such demos is still an uncertainty.
The only thing coming from Sony at GC 2006 are "two PS3 related announcements". Your guess here is as good as ours...
As for Nintendo's playful console, the general public will once again be left out. As it turns out, only select members of the press and retail will be able to grab the Wiimote and have their way with it. I just hope that Nintendo's "big announcement" will make it all worthwhile.
http://www.playfuls.com/news_6654_PS3_Not_Playable_In_Leipzig_Wii_Only_For_Press.html
OK, that is all. Now, back to phony posting.
PS3 Not Playable In Leipzig, Wii Only For Press
Another pre-launch battle is about to be waged between Sony and Nintendo towards the end of this month. The battlefield - Germany's Leipzig Games Convention 2006, taking place between August 23-27. Nintendo has already promised to make a big announcement at the show (hopefully relating to the Wii launch date), but the question is: will the two next-gen consoles be playable at GC 2006?
According to a couple of stories from DarkZero, not... entirely. Even though both companies will have their own booth at the show, it appears that none of Sony's PS3 launch titles will be playable at GC, and only select members of the press and retail will be allowed to get a hold of Nintendo's Wii.
DarkZero reports that Sony will be holding off all PlayStation 3 games until the Tokyo Game Show (which takes place later this year), and that their booth from the Leipzig GC will remain void of all PS3 demo units. However, that doesn't mean that third-party publishers will aslo follow in their footsteps. One way or the other, some PS3 games - such as Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed - are expected to be playable in Leipzig, although public access to such demos is still an uncertainty.
The only thing coming from Sony at GC 2006 are "two PS3 related announcements". Your guess here is as good as ours...
As for Nintendo's playful console, the general public will once again be left out. As it turns out, only select members of the press and retail will be able to grab the Wiimote and have their way with it. I just hope that Nintendo's "big announcement" will make it all worthwhile.
http://www.playfuls.com/news_6654_PS3_Not_Playable_In_Leipzig_Wii_Only_For_Press.html
OK, that is all. Now, back to phony posting.
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Will Blu-ray sink the PlayStation 3?
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/15/will_blu-ray_sink_the_ps3/
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What if the PS3 Fails?
Industry analysts, forum posters and gaming fans in general have been quick to jump on Sony for pricing the PlayStation 3 at $500 and $600 for the respective packages. As we've stated in the past, the PS3 is a good price for what you're getting and a price that Sony is likely still losing a good deal of money at. However, we're not here to talk about the price of the PS3 and whether or not it's too high for average consumers; we're here to discuss what will happen to Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony if the PlayStation 3 fails in the marketplace.
With Sony putting so much money and faith into the PlayStation 3, a failure really isn't possible. So instead of looking at the long run of what would happen in five years, we're going to look at what would happen a year or two from now if the PS3 does not sell as well as Sony would like. It should be common knowledge that Sony will do whatever it takes to make the PS3 a success, so if you still wish to bash on the company and its PS3 pricing, expect to be put in your place over the next few years. But what will Microsoft and Nintendo do?
Microsoft
Bill Gates and crew have shown that they have what it takes to be successful in the console gaming industry. Microsoft learned from its mistakes with the original Xbox, and while the company has already made a few mistakes with the 360, the new console has been positioned to take on the number one spot in the console space. The one year head start along with a focus on bringing in new gamers with Xbox Live Arcade and Xbox Live Silver, and the best online console gaming network with Xbox Live have put Microsoft in a great position. While the company was blasted for releasing two SKUs for the Xbox 360, Sony's higher price on the PS3 has give the 360 even more of a boost.
If the PlayStation 3 fails to reach the masses within the next two years, gamers will not simply stop buying games. Instead, gamers will put their money into either the Xbox 360 or Nintendo Wii. Considering the fact that Microsoft already has a one year head start, with second generation titles on the way, Halo 3 coming in 2007, and Grand Theft Auto IV on the horizon, the conventional gamer will look toward the Xbox 360 to fill the hole that the PlayStation 3 has left. Sales of the Xbox 360 should continue to widen the gap between Microsoft's console and the PS3 until Sony does something to stop the bleeding. And during this time, it's likely that even some big name Japanese developers will begin showing love to the big green machine.
Nintendo
The Nintendo Wii is in a very interesting position whether or not the PlayStation 3 fails. Based on the super hype following E3 and the low price point that Nintendo has hinted at, the Wii will cater to a wide gaming audience. However, while the Nintendo Wii will likely bring in a much wider audience than the PS3 or Xbox 360, it also has the potential to alienate the traditional gamer. There aren't many hardcore gamers who will want to play a fighting game, a first-person shooter, or GTA without a standard pad. You also have to take into account the family-friendly name that Nintendo has held for many years. A lot of older Xbox and PlayStation owners will not want to buy the Wii, simply because it's a Nintendo product.
So if the PlayStation 3 fails during the first few years it's available, it's likely that the Xbox 360 will pick up most of the slack. However, that doesn't mean that Nintendo will be left with the same market it would have had if the PS3 succeeded. In the case that the PS3 performs poorly, it's unlikely that MS will drop the price of the 360 anytime soon. Therefore, gamers and non-gamers who want a console, but don't want to spend $300 or more, will be left with the Nintendo Wii. Judging from the third party support Nintendo has garnered over the past few months, many of the most popular mainstream games will be coming to the Wii. The question is, will these games have an option to play like their Xbox and PlayStation counterparts? If they do, Nintendo could easily steal some of the hardcore gamers from Microsoft. Not to mention the gamers who will pick up both consoles.
Sony
There's a lot riding on the PlayStation 3 for Sony. The company is banking on the game console to get Blu-Ray into the homes of millions. If the PlayStation 3 turned out to be a huge failure, it would put Sony in a very bad financial position. Therefore, Sony will do everything in its power to ensure the success of the PS3. While it's unlikely we'll see a price drop soon after launch, if the PS3 falls vastly short of Sony's target numbers, a price drop will likely come no later than the 2007 holiday season. It's certainly not out of the question to see a price drop as early as summer 2007 if things are really going poorly.
All Sony has to do is drop the price of the PlayStation 3 to match whatever price the Xbox 360 is at and the console will see a huge boost in sales. While this may cause Sony to lose more money on the PS3 than originally expected, the increased user base will benefit Sony in the long run. A lot of money will come from PS3 software sales and Blu-Ray movie sales. Sony will lose a lot more money if PS3 fails completely than if the company simply has to drop the price of the PS3.
The question sill remains, will the PlayStation 3 fail? As we've stated here, Sony will not let the PS3 fail. However, the longer the company allows the high price and low sales to continue, the further behind it will be in the console race. Of course, things could go favorably for Sony and the PS3 could sell like hotcakes, but a more likely scenario is that the PS3 will sell decently well, but not as well as the PS2 or PS1 before it.
http://www.gamedaily.com/features/?id=1083
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/15/will_blu-ray_sink_the_ps3/
===========================================
What if the PS3 Fails?
Industry analysts, forum posters and gaming fans in general have been quick to jump on Sony for pricing the PlayStation 3 at $500 and $600 for the respective packages. As we've stated in the past, the PS3 is a good price for what you're getting and a price that Sony is likely still losing a good deal of money at. However, we're not here to talk about the price of the PS3 and whether or not it's too high for average consumers; we're here to discuss what will happen to Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony if the PlayStation 3 fails in the marketplace.
With Sony putting so much money and faith into the PlayStation 3, a failure really isn't possible. So instead of looking at the long run of what would happen in five years, we're going to look at what would happen a year or two from now if the PS3 does not sell as well as Sony would like. It should be common knowledge that Sony will do whatever it takes to make the PS3 a success, so if you still wish to bash on the company and its PS3 pricing, expect to be put in your place over the next few years. But what will Microsoft and Nintendo do?
Microsoft
Bill Gates and crew have shown that they have what it takes to be successful in the console gaming industry. Microsoft learned from its mistakes with the original Xbox, and while the company has already made a few mistakes with the 360, the new console has been positioned to take on the number one spot in the console space. The one year head start along with a focus on bringing in new gamers with Xbox Live Arcade and Xbox Live Silver, and the best online console gaming network with Xbox Live have put Microsoft in a great position. While the company was blasted for releasing two SKUs for the Xbox 360, Sony's higher price on the PS3 has give the 360 even more of a boost.
If the PlayStation 3 fails to reach the masses within the next two years, gamers will not simply stop buying games. Instead, gamers will put their money into either the Xbox 360 or Nintendo Wii. Considering the fact that Microsoft already has a one year head start, with second generation titles on the way, Halo 3 coming in 2007, and Grand Theft Auto IV on the horizon, the conventional gamer will look toward the Xbox 360 to fill the hole that the PlayStation 3 has left. Sales of the Xbox 360 should continue to widen the gap between Microsoft's console and the PS3 until Sony does something to stop the bleeding. And during this time, it's likely that even some big name Japanese developers will begin showing love to the big green machine.
Nintendo
The Nintendo Wii is in a very interesting position whether or not the PlayStation 3 fails. Based on the super hype following E3 and the low price point that Nintendo has hinted at, the Wii will cater to a wide gaming audience. However, while the Nintendo Wii will likely bring in a much wider audience than the PS3 or Xbox 360, it also has the potential to alienate the traditional gamer. There aren't many hardcore gamers who will want to play a fighting game, a first-person shooter, or GTA without a standard pad. You also have to take into account the family-friendly name that Nintendo has held for many years. A lot of older Xbox and PlayStation owners will not want to buy the Wii, simply because it's a Nintendo product.
So if the PlayStation 3 fails during the first few years it's available, it's likely that the Xbox 360 will pick up most of the slack. However, that doesn't mean that Nintendo will be left with the same market it would have had if the PS3 succeeded. In the case that the PS3 performs poorly, it's unlikely that MS will drop the price of the 360 anytime soon. Therefore, gamers and non-gamers who want a console, but don't want to spend $300 or more, will be left with the Nintendo Wii. Judging from the third party support Nintendo has garnered over the past few months, many of the most popular mainstream games will be coming to the Wii. The question is, will these games have an option to play like their Xbox and PlayStation counterparts? If they do, Nintendo could easily steal some of the hardcore gamers from Microsoft. Not to mention the gamers who will pick up both consoles.
Sony
There's a lot riding on the PlayStation 3 for Sony. The company is banking on the game console to get Blu-Ray into the homes of millions. If the PlayStation 3 turned out to be a huge failure, it would put Sony in a very bad financial position. Therefore, Sony will do everything in its power to ensure the success of the PS3. While it's unlikely we'll see a price drop soon after launch, if the PS3 falls vastly short of Sony's target numbers, a price drop will likely come no later than the 2007 holiday season. It's certainly not out of the question to see a price drop as early as summer 2007 if things are really going poorly.
All Sony has to do is drop the price of the PlayStation 3 to match whatever price the Xbox 360 is at and the console will see a huge boost in sales. While this may cause Sony to lose more money on the PS3 than originally expected, the increased user base will benefit Sony in the long run. A lot of money will come from PS3 software sales and Blu-Ray movie sales. Sony will lose a lot more money if PS3 fails completely than if the company simply has to drop the price of the PS3.
The question sill remains, will the PlayStation 3 fail? As we've stated here, Sony will not let the PS3 fail. However, the longer the company allows the high price and low sales to continue, the further behind it will be in the console race. Of course, things could go favorably for Sony and the PS3 could sell like hotcakes, but a more likely scenario is that the PS3 will sell decently well, but not as well as the PS2 or PS1 before it.
http://www.gamedaily.com/features/?id=1083
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Well... it is a first gen 360 title, so I shouldn't really nitpick. It does look better than Toy Story does, and this is running in real time. But the car does look kind of plastic, and the street looks way too tiled with its textures. I'm hopeful that Forza 2 doesn't look like this. Of course I say this with the full realization that this technology has me spoiled.I have to show this...
My best PGR3 Screenshot. It look so good that I had to show it.
I guess you guys can't wait for GT5.
But really, as good as PGR3 looks, I'm expecting grand and glorious things from GT5, Forza 2 and the rest of the next gen racers. Except for NFS: Carbon.
Oh, and as for the article above, the PS3 may "fail" all the way to 40% marketshare.
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