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[ALB123]

Are you watching your replay to see how much room you still have to the edge of the track?

I've started to. I have to...otherwise I can't find the line...Ya know how some turns it just feels natural to turn in, hit the apex and ride it out. That turn, especially with cars of different power I just blow it.

I know it's a good training tip to watch the replays anyway. There's ALWAYS something that I could be doing better - after all, I'm not a very fast driver...

 

[Cote Dazur]

I've started to. I have to...otherwise I can't find the line...Ya know how some turns it just feels natural to turn in, hit the apex and ride it out. That turn, especially with cars of different power I just blow it.

I know it's a good training tip to watch the replays anyway. There's ALWAYS something that I could be doing better - after all, I'm not a very fast driver...

Yes, since I started watching the replay I have a much better pace even though some turns are not so easy to figure out, some of them it is trial an error, but overall I still driver faster than ever.

 

[novcze]

What I am trying to say here is for someone of my ability I should not have to work this hard for some of the events because if it is this hard for me there must be an awful lot of people that have absolutely no hope of even getting Bronze times.

Also what makes me very annoyed with all these events is how there is no consistency of the required skill level. As we have all said, some are just ridiculously easy while others can seem impossible.

Exactly my thoughts, driving cars in AC feels good, but this inconsistency drives me away from special events.

Anyway.

I felt like doing hotlap special events again and do some base setup for Porsche 911 GT3 R 2016, so I choosed Ready For the Party on Barcelona GP circuit, default setup is pretty much undrivable (PS4 version), the car is trying to kill its driver when going over the kerbs, which is IMO unrealistic. So if anyone is intrested in the result, here is the video.

 

[ALB123]

Nice run @novcze -- very smooth! Ugh...I hate the GP version of that track. That last bit - the part they bypass for the GT version - it always gets me.

 

[Stotty]

Spent the day running through the remaining quick races in the special events. Just 2 left to gold now - R8 V10 Plus at Barcelona and the Lotus Cup at Imola. Both are impossible on the PS4 by legit means IMO.

Hardest one was probably 'stained rockets' (Ruf at Nurb)... even with the pit lane cheat, it took me over an hour to beat this one... the car has no brake at all compared to the AI.

Much as it pains me, I'm going to have to resort to the @WhoosierGirl 'blocking maneuver' (tm).

Another shout out to @HavanaB0B for set ups... your Exige Cup set up on Youtube got me >2s a lap at Brands and an easy gold 👍

 

[HavanaB0B]

@Stotty awesome man! You shouldn't need to do the events in the R8 V10 to get any sort of achievement, it is a car from the prestige pack if I remember correctly.

 

[Stotty]

@Stotty awesome man! You shouldn't need to do the events in the R8 V10 to get any sort of achievement, it is a car from the prestige pack if I remember correctly.

Ah, that's good to know!! I downloaded the game and all the ad ons in one go... didn't really know what was part of which pack, so assumed I needed them all.

So just the Lotus event to do to get all gold on the races and time trials. Then I have to turn my hand to drifting

 

[Stotty]

The @WhoosierGirl patented 'blocking trick' got me the Lotus Cup Race in a few tries last night... and both quick race trophies popped up

My 1st attempt at drifting using @Onepueblo tips/tune was hilarious, but eventually got the hang of it... I got a couple of them at bronze/silver last night (and the combo master trophy)... just a matter of time/concentration to tick off the drift event golds.

 

[WhoosierGirl]

I'm going to have to resort to the @WhoosierGirl 'blocking maneuver' (tm).👍

The @WhoosierGirl patented 'blocking trick'

A means to an end, Only six platinum's so far .

 

[Stotty]

A means to an end, Only six platinum's so far .

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Wow... only 6 World wide (and no Brits!).

I will add my name to that list is due course... drifting doesn't seem that difficult (other than maintaining concentration... and avoiding blisters ), and career is just a matter of coping with the boredom!

Happy I only needed to use 'special techniques' on 3 quick races - the Lotus Cup (blocking), and the Z3GT3 and RUF RGT events (pit lane start cheat).

All the others gold by legitimate means

I still need to pick up the 2nd hidden trophy (collateral damage)... but I guess that would be easy enough if I turn on damage and bounce the rev limiter for a while... could probably do that drifting!

 

[WhoosierGirl]

Wow... only 6 World wide (and no Brits!).

I will add my name to that list is due course... drifting doesn't seem that difficult (other than maintaining concentration... and avoiding blisters ), and career is just a matter of coping with the boredom!

Happy I only needed to use 'special techniques' on 3 quick races - the Lotus Cup (blocking), and the Z3GT3 and RUF RGT events (pit lane start cheat).

All the others gold by legitimate means

I still need to pick up the 2nd hidden trophy (collateral damage)... but I guess that would be easy enough if I turn on damage and bounce the rev limiter for a while... could probably do that drifting!

The drifting events are great for arm workouts, that's about it.

The collateral damage is as easy as running the car on the limiter on the uphill at Spa.

The career extreme races, I have an idea 💡 about how to do them faster....I seem to think of things after I do them the hard way first, lol.

 

[Stotty]

The drifting events are great for arm workouts, that's about it.

With my new T300, most of the time I can just let the wheel find it's own way, and just stop it over rotating from time to time - did start to get a blister on the inside of my left thumb though

career extreme races, I have an idea 💡 about how to do them faster....I seem to think of things after I do them the hard way first, lol.

Please share!

 

[WhoosierGirl]

With my new T300, most of the time I can just let the wheel find it's own way, and just stop it over rotating from time to time - did start to get a blister on the inside of my left thumb though

Please share!

I will share, I just have to look at the points per race tonight to figure out if what I am thinking will work.

 

[TT92]

A means to an end, Only six platinum's so far .

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This list is from here https://psnprofiles.com/game-leaderboard/5207-assetto-corsa

Obviously it is incomplete and faulty. I can't see my name anywhere and I am currently at 85% with 38 Trophies which should have put me in the top 10.

Edit: I just noticed on the top LHS of the page where it gives the stats it says there are only 4,628 owners of the game. I could swear that Kunos said their PS4 sales figures were higher than that!

Just 5 more Hot Lap events and I will have the Platinum too. There are 3 at the moment where I am off by 0.150- 0.250 secs and they are driving me mad

 

[Stotty]

Just 5 more Hot Lap events and I will have the Platinum too. There are 3 at the moment where I am off by 0.150- 0.250 secs and they are driving me mad

Which ones do you have left?

 

[WhoosierGirl]

With my new T300, most of the time I can just let the wheel find it's own way, and just stop it over rotating from time to time - did start to get a blister on the inside of my left thumb though
Please share!

Here is my idea:

There are 7 races in each Extreme Series and you need 60 points, some of the races are as long as 90 minutes, OMG boring...lol. So your stuck with winning 6 races or.....

Win 2 races and finish second in the other 5, there is no way around needing to win at least 2 races (20 points) so pick the quickest ones to win. For the other 5 use my "opponent elimination trick" and get rid of all but 1 other racer, then complete 1 more lap than the second place driver...you will then be in second place and there will only be you and the leader. Go park in the pits and go about your business and come back in an hour or so when the leader finishes you will be second and have 8 points. 2 wins is 20 points, 5 seconds is 40 points (60) and you have invested far less time in the career. The time you save is dependent on how fast you "eliminate" all other AI. I would do a USB game save before each race just in case the lead driver has a engine failure.

I take PSN cards for payment, lol. JK

This list is from here https://psnprofiles.com/game-leaderboard/5207-assetto-corsa

Obviously it is incomplete and faulty. I can't see my name anywhere and I am currently at 85% with 38 Trophies which should have put me in the top 10.

Edit: I just noticed on the top LHS of the page where it gives the stats it says there are only 4,628 owners of the game. I could swear that Kunos said their PS4 sales figures were higher than that!

Just 5 more Hot Lap events and I will have the Platinum too. There are 3 at the moment where I am off by 0.150- 0.250 secs and they are driving me mad

Your username has to be updated for the trophy websites to put you on the leaderboard, it's as easy as someone searching your name to be registered. I did yours so your name will be on the list soon, unless you block your trophy list. There you are.....

 

[TT92]

Here is my idea:

There are 7 races in each Extreme Series and you need 60 points, some of the races are as long as 90 minutes, OMG boring...lol. So your stuck with winning 6 races or.....

Correct.

Win 2 races and finish second in the other 5, there is no way around needing to win at least 2 races (20 points) so pick the quickest ones to win.

If I recall correctly they only unlock in order so you don't get to chose. They are easy to win so it is only a time thing. To anyone else reading this take WhoosierGirl 's advice and do a game save because you *CANNOT* repeat a single race, you have to restart the whole series.

For the other 5 use my "opponent elimination trick" and get rid of all but 1 other racer, then complete 1 more lap than the second place driver...you will then be in second place and there will only be you and the leader. Go park in the pits and go about your business and come back in an hour or so when the leader finishes you will be second and have 8 points. 2 wins is 20 points, 5 seconds is 40 points (60) and you have invested far less time in the career. The time you save is dependent on how fast you "eliminate" all other AI. I would do a USB game save before each race just in case the lead driver has a engine failure.

I do not think it will work as they are not timed races, you must complete the required number of laps regardless of how many competitors are on track.

I take PSN cards for payment, lol. JK

I think you will need to consider how to give refunds for this one

Your username has to be updated for the trophy websites to put you on the leaderboard, it's as easy as someone searching your name to be registered. I did yours so your name will be on the list soon, unless you block your trophy list. There you are.....

Not a very good system if it must be manually updated. I would have expected it to synced to the PSN Trophy System. But then, that is just me, I would have expected a game like AC would have had custom online lobbies and button mapping from day one.

Which ones do you have left?

Z4 at Imola (about 0.5 secs off), MP412C at Silverstone (0.054s off!!!) BMW M3 at Silverstone (0.115s off), Merc SLS GT3 Zandvoort (3+secs off), Lotus 25 Zandvoort (3+secs OFF) I think that is about it. These are driving me mad as the times are a hair breadth away so I know its achievable but the more laps I do the slower I seem to go so I go away for awhile and do other stuff and come back.

Zanvoort just looks impossible at the moment yet I did the GT40 and Ruf CRT events easily with Gold. When I say easily 10-12 laps.

While we are back on the subject of ease and why I started this thread originally I am still finding a huge disparity in skill required for these events and am very dismayed by such a variance.

Here some other events I have just done at the Nordschliefe. Audi Quatro gold by over 3 secs first lap. Alfa 4C Gold 2 laps by 1.5 secs, MacLaren P1 Gold by nearly 2 secs on lap 3.

I really wish the Hot Laps worked like they did in the online time trials in GT6. You have a ghost (of your choice) and after each lap the tyres would reset to new condition and you could go out and just hammer away at an event for as many laps as you like and just chip away at times. PLUS!!! GT6 remembered your best time and gave you splits to it so you knew where you were. BUT Oh no not AC you are just always at a disadvantage it seems. Like the MP412C at Silverstone, after each hot lap the tyres are stuffed even with wear turned off so I am forced to restart the lap again and lose any flow.

So I will restate my opinion of these special events, they should be more even (consistent) and not as hard.

 

[WhoosierGirl]

If I recall correctly they only unlock in order so you don't get to chose. They are easy to win so it is only a time thing. To anyone else reading this take WhoosierGirl 's advice and do a game save because you *CANNOT* repeat a single race, you have to restart the whole series.

I never said to choose the order, I said to pick the easiest ones to win. Spend 10 minutes picking them off and the next hour doing whatever vs. driving a boring race, your choice just giving an option.

I do not think it will work as they are not timed races, you must complete the required number of laps regardless of how many competitors are on track.

They are not timed races they are lap count races, the leader will finish the laps and the race will end after a certain amount of time. Don't think it will work, try it.

I think you will need to consider how to give refunds for this one

Wrong again, got a PSN message thanking me because it worked for them.

Wondering why I even post anymore.

 

[TT92]

Wondering why I even post anymore.

Your posts have been very informative and helpful for me and no doubt others too. Also no need to go all defensive either, I am only trying to have an intelligent conversion with you. I apologise if in any way you have taken any offence.

I never said to choose the order, I said to pick the easiest ones to win. Spend 10 minutes picking them off and the next hour doing whatever vs. driving a boring race, your choice just giving an option.

Yep, that's fine, anything to reduce the boredom.

They are not timed races

That is exactly what I said.

they are lap count races, the leader will finish the laps and the race will end after a certain amount of time. Don't think it will work, try it.

Yes it will work but only for a second place. So out of 7 races you need 6 wins or 5 wins and two seconds, therefore you can only save a little time overall. That was the point I was trying to make. The races are easy to win just time consuming and mind numbingly boring. So basically it comes down to the amount of time to win one race as opposed to amount of time to get second in two.

One tip I will give here to spice things up, is, there are no penalties on in these races, so I used it as an excuse to see how many track short cuts there were and ultimately how quickly I could do a lap and see how often I could lap the field. Like I said, the tedium got to me :-(

Wrong again, got a PSN message thanking me because it worked for them.

As I said, I am sure it will work but I am dubious to how much actual time it will save overall. I also did include a smiley after that to indicate that humour was intended.

Again I apologise if I have in any way offended you. Are we sweet now?

 

[Stotty]

Z4 at Imola (about 0.5 secs off), MP412C at Silverstone (0.054s off!!!) BMW M3 at Silverstone (0.115s off), Merc SLS GT3 Zandvoort (3+secs off), Lotus 25 Zandvoort (3+secs OFF) I think that is about it. These are driving me mad as the times are a hair breadth away so I know its achievable but the more laps I do the slower I seem to go so I go away for awhile and do other stuff and come back.

Zanvoort just looks impossible at the moment yet I did the GT40 and Ruf CRT events easily with Gold. When I say easily 10-12 laps.

While we are back on the subject of ease and why I started this thread originally I am still finding a huge disparity in skill required for these events and am very dismayed by such a variance.

Here some other events I have just done at the Nordschliefe. Audi Quatro gold by over 3 secs first lap. Alfa 4C Gold 2 laps by 1.5 secs, MacLaren P1 Gold by nearly 2 secs on lap 3.

I really wish the Hot Laps worked like they did in the online time trials in GT6. You have a ghost (of your choice) and after each lap the tyres would reset to new condition and you could go out and just hammer away at an event for as many laps as you like and just chip away at times. PLUS!!! GT6 remembered your best time and gave you splits to it so you knew where you were. BUT Oh no not AC you are just always at a disadvantage it seems. Like the MP412C at Silverstone, after each hot lap the tyres are stuffed even with wear turned off so I am forced to restart the lap again and lose any flow.

So I will restate my opinion of these special events, they should be more even (consistent) and not as hard.

I'll send you tunes for those events... The Zandvoort events should be pretty straight forward with the right set up if you got the RUF, the others you're really close on, so just a matter of perseverance.

The difficulty level is just about right for you if you're inside 0.5s off gold... you can find that time

I also miss the ghost, but it's not a massive issue for me... what is an issue is not being able to carry your splits from your best lap when you re-start a session... particularly irritating on Nurb events.

You'll get them

 

[Flavus]

@TT92 Instead of picking through peoples posts you should spend more time hot lapping and that way you will bring your lap times down (humour is intended)

I struggle with the BMW z4 at Imola, 0.150 short and also the McLaren MP4 GT3 at Barcelona which I can do on track temp of 26 degrees but not 36 degrees. Kunos have got it spot on with the varying levels of difficulty with the special events as not everybody should be capable of getting all events cos not everybody is entitled to be an Alien, they should be a very rare breed and making events easier is not the answer. My lap times on other cars at Imola and Barcelona have improved dramatically since I tried unsuccessfully to get those two difficult events so it proves they serve a purpose. I've probably improved from an earthling to a pedal monster over the years on different games but I am certainly no Alien.

 

[HavanaB0B]

With a proper setup the MP4-12C at Silverstone shouldn't be too difficult in the current patch. If the Mercedes at Zandvoort still requires a 1:40.000 for the gold that should be pretty easy, especially if you were able to pedal the RT12R around there. Online race pace for me in the AMG GT3 is high 1:37.xxx's

 

[Stotty]

@TT92
I struggle with the BMW z4 at Imola, 0.150 short and also the McLaren MP4 GT3 at Barcelona which I can do on track temp of 26 degrees but not 36 degrees.

I have tunes for both those events if you want them.

 

[Stotty]

With a proper setup the MP4-12C at Silverstone shouldn't be too difficult in the current patch. If the Mercedes at Zandvoort still requires a 1:40.000 for the gold that should be pretty easy, especially if you were able to pedal the RT12R around there. Online race pace for me in the AMG GT3 is high 1:37.xxx's

From memory, the SLS was pretty easy, so I suspect it's just the tune... it's certainly a lot easier than the RUF, which is a bit of a pig to drive.

And for me, the Barcelona event was much harder than Silverstone in the MP12... only started to believe Barcelona was possible when you sent me the tune.

 

[HavanaB0B]

My setup is in the video, should be decent at Silverstone too. There is more time in the car than what I got on that lap, but I hate/suck at Barcelona.

 

[HavanaB0B]

From memory, the SLS was pretty easy, so I suspect it's just the tune... it's certainly a lot easier than the RUF, which is a bit of a pig to drive.

And for me, the Barcelona event was much harder than Silverstone in the MP12... only started to believe Barcelona was possible when you sent me the tune.

Yes, the AMG GT3 understeers like a pig with the default setup. Lowering the coast down helps a lot, also running the ride height fairly high compared to other GT3s really suits the car nicely. Somewhere around 85-90mm front and a little higher like 94mm rear helps the feel of the car a lot in my opinion.

 

[Flavus]

I have tunes for both those events if you want them.

Thanks for the offer. I have used Havanabobs tune and one other, that I cannot remember who from, and I just need to keep plugging away at Barcelona and I think I will get it. I found the McLaren MP4 GT3 at silverstone very easy and did it in less than 10 laps but took a couple of hundred laps at Vallelunga in the same car. For BMW Z4 at Imola I just cannot carry enough speed through turns 2 and 3 at the end of the start/finish straight. If I try to ride the kerbs I just bounce too much and lose traction no matter what line I take and I also tried Havanabobs setup there too. I reckon I loose at least 0.5 secs in those turns
Its been a couple of weeks since I last tried them so I will give them a go again this weekend as the older you get the wiser you get correct?

 

[TT92]

My setup is in the video, should be decent at Silverstone too. There is more time in the car than what I got on that lap, but I hate/suck at Barcelona.

Thank you very much for that I will give it a go shortly. Would you please tell me what you run the track settings at? e.g Tyre wear, Fuel, etc

Also if anyone else wants to share a tune for the SLS and Lotus 25 at Zandvoort it would be greatly appreciated.

Kunos have got it spot on with the varying levels of difficulty with the special events as not everybody should be capable of getting all events cos not everybody is entitled to be an Alien, they should be a very rare breed and making events easier is not the answer.

I do not have a problem with this and do not, in any way shape or form think of myself as an alien or even potentially one. I am discussing how these times are a requirement for the Platinum trophy on the PS4. So rather than change the times for Alien then Kunos should only require Silver for the trophy then. It would make everyone happy ;-)

Also it does not explain why some events are dead easy while others seem impossible. IMHO all events should be equally hard.

 

[HavanaB0B]

I run with all assist off and ABS and TC on factory, no stability control, and with tire wear and fuel usage on.

 

[TT92]

I run with all assist off and ABS and TC on factory, no stability control, and with tire wear and fuel usage on.

Cheers, I am just plugging your tune in now so I will know how it goes in about 2.04 minutes ;-)

What about damage? On or Off?

Well it's about 10 minutes later.

See pic below. HavanaBoB you are the man. You're a legend :-) All it took was 3 laps and bang! Your Barcelona tune exact, no changes at all. Whooo Hoooo :-)