purchasing a GT6 copy tonight!!
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- TheLordSnowden
- LordSnowden
Well, not all territories respect contracts the same... Especially if there are no enforceable reproductions.
This is considered "grey market". The only thing Sony can do is have a more offical presence or distributer and they really should have known better. Corporations won't get much sympathy from me, they already run the world.
To be honest that makes sense. Was thinking the same thing, that someone somewhere made the mistake. Im trying to decide if its right to play the game though or not.... Also Im not sure if sony might do a psn ban or anything like that???
I know gtplanet has a lot of contact with Sony... can you tell us what the word about this is?
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- GTP_Famine
What they do next time is limit the availability to this region, harming the consumer - thanks to a few greedy games shops...
I doubt it - you haven't broken any PSN terms of service either.
No.
On two fronts. Firstly, I can't anyway. Secondly, if I could and did we'd have less contact with Sony, so I can't
But I'd say that the consumers who've bought the game in good faith aren't in trouble - but Sony will be investigating who is at fault. It's incredibly poor timing, with the Middle East getting its first GT Academy this year, if Sony decide they can't trust ME retailers...
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- Addison, TX
- MX5_Racer_69
Can you look and see if there is a livery editor?
- 11,343
- Chicago, iLL
- GTP_Nismo
I believe Jordan said yesterday or the day before that they got the green light to make a NEWS article about the 2 leak threads and link those threads. They then made said article but shortly took it down. So, someone somewhere must've not been happy.
GTP likes the relationship they have with sony/pd/insiders/whomever so I don't blame them one bit for being cautious.
There isn't one. This was confirmed a couple days ago. People are hoping DAY1 patch fixes this but...
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- magicayrton
- Just kidding 
Ain't gonna happen eh? No surprise I guess.
What they do next time is limit the availability to this region, harming the consumer - thanks to a few greedy games shops...I doubt it - you haven't broken any PSN terms of service either.No.
On two fronts. Firstly, I can't anyway. Secondly, if I could and did we'd have less contact with Sony, so I can't
But I'd say that the consumers who've bought the game in good faith aren't in trouble - but Sony will be investigating who is at fault. It's incredibly poor timing, with the Middle East getting its first GT Academy this year, if Sony decide they can't trust ME retailers...
It would be unfortunate if when the patch is downloaded it erases all progress in game!
What they do next time is limit the availability to this region, harming the consumer - thanks to a few greedy games shops...I doubt it - you haven't broken any PSN terms of service either.No.
On two fronts. Firstly, I can't anyway. Secondly, if I could and did we'd have less contact with Sony, so I can't
But I'd say that the consumers who've bought the game in good faith aren't in trouble - but Sony will be investigating who is at fault. It's incredibly poor timing, with the Middle East getting its first GT Academy this year, if Sony decide they can't trust ME retailers...
Not sure limiting availability will solve it. Thats exactly why the black market thrives. If shops can't get units in time from the official pathways if there are any, then they will always look for other places to fill the shelves from. The answer needs to be a stronger presence not a smaller one! They keep ignoring us.... the PS4 doesn't even have a release date here yet when its already being sold almost world-wide. Surely they don't think gamestores will sit idly by as most Lebanese gamers get their units by shipping them online or buying them during their vacations elsewhere?
I really don't understand why Sony is so adamant about release day. I think once a store gets a game, they should be able to sell it right away. Having everyone wait and make retailers sit on games for a particular date is meaningless. Leaks are bound to happen. Breached contracts are bound to happen. Holding back a game does nothing but cause leaks. The game will be on the market eventually so why not just allow it to release as soon as retailers get it.
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- Johnnypenso
Because business is not a free-for-all. Marketing in particular is coordinated based on a fixed street date. These copies are out without the day 1 patch, meaning the game is being viewed and reviewed in it's unfinished state. I hope heads roll over this, I know if I were Sony/PD I'd be livid!!
I don't by that. If a game is going to sell, its going to sell regardless. I would buy every game that interest me regardless competition. Most titles don't release around the same time anyways. They are at least a week or two apart. The strategy is from being insecure about their game if its about competition.
Being in a unfinished state should not be the issue. People who don't have internet will always have an unpatched game. The game that PD puts on disk should be release worthy. Otherwise they need to hold until it is. Patches are just minor fixes. They should never be major updates on day one.
Fixed release dates are fine if everyone played by the rules but they don't.
- 11,343
- Chicago, iLL
- GTP_Nismo
I'm glad you have the income to splurge willy nilly on anything and everything. Companies though, know that sometimes they need to strategically release games as to either not overlap or to have a steady stream of content throughout the year. I'm sure they have data showing how many games people buy per year and who's likely to cross-shop this and that.
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- Melbourne
I don't really think you can blame small Middle East retailers for breaking the street date. These guys are just trying to get a competitive edge and no doubt selling the game at a premium price. It's capitalism at work.
If people feel angered at the street date being broken I suggest you place your blame where it belongs, directed at Sony. Sonys failure to control their supply chain is nobodies fault but their own. After all this isn't the first time this has happened.
If people feel angered at the street date being broken I suggest you place your blame where it belongs, directed at Sony. Sonys failure to control their supply chain is nobodies fault but their own. After all this isn't the first time this has happened.
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- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
Wow, you should go apply at PD/Sony, they need the likes of your talent. The video game industry has had the whole idea of release dates wrong going on 35 years it seems.
Capitalism isn't a free-for-all there are rules. What these shops are doing is risking the wrath of their distributors and/or the game maker to gain a competitive edge. Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you don't. Sometimes there are consequences down the road, like maybe next time you won't get the game until release day or maybe not at all. That's capitalism
I agree. Everyone is out to make a buck. I don't fault any retailer for selling any merchandise. Sony indeed is the culprit. If they want everyone to play by the rules, then, eliminate them. Once a retailer gets it, allow them to sell it. Problem solved. Selling Sony's product is the goal is it not. No inflated prices if every has access to the game. No more leaks if everyone in that region has the game. No policing the internet and using man power to stop people from posting leaks. The game will get out and they will always continue to get out. As my high school coach told me once..."If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying".
I wouldn't fit in. I tend to be on time with things therefore I couldn't make it in their delayed environment. It doesn't take talent to be on time though. It's called time management.
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- MX5_Racer_69
The release date is important because Sony is selling to multiple vendors. If they didn't enforce a release date, then the vendor who got the first shipment would have an unfair advantage. That's all there is to it. Distribution takes time.
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- Johnnypenso
I really like the way they did the license test. If you want to progress pass the test. It different that GT1-GT4 for its within career mode. GT5 licenses were optional and I didn't realize it until I passed all the test first. I wasn't thrilled but it is what it was. Now its done really well. I assume they didn't make it terribly hard since its in career mode itself.
That's impossible and everyone knows that everyone can't get it at the same time. That's why I said when retailers get it, they should be allowed to sell them. There isn't much of an advantage if a store gets it first. Those copies will sell regardless when they get them. As long as the prices are not inflated, there is no advantage in my book. If they want to control the middle east, send fewer copies or have them ship out several weeks after the world get it. If a retailer in the US gets 200 copies, a retailer in Canada gets 200 copies a day later and a retailer in the UK gets 200 copy a day after Canada, those copies that each store got will all sell out the same way. The 201st person is s.o.l. If Sony thinks its still unfair, how about not refilling that retailers order until others have sold copies. People will flock to where every the game is. Once they are sold out they are sold out. I don't see how that is an advantage when there is no constant supply coming in for one particular retailer.
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- Johnnypenso
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Oh come on, I don't believe Sony is bothered at all from this "leakaging". If they were, they could have blocked all the games until release date via mandatory update from the servers.
Fact is that the game without day one patch is far from being the final product, and all this song and dance on the forums, in the end, is just advertising boosting hype.
Fact is that the game without day one patch is far from being the final product, and all this song and dance on the forums, in the end, is just advertising boosting hype.
I have noticed that you get off by arguing with everyone on this site. Every thread your in, there is an argument with someone somewhere. Most of your little wordings are meant to insult someone in a sly way under the table. Lucky for you, this is internet but do what you do homie.Capitalism 101. How to Run a Small Business 101. Competitive Advantage 101. Study these and get back to me because "your book" is sadly out of date.
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- Johnnypenso
Let me spell it out for you then homie. I live 5 minutes from the busiest border crossing in the world. In less than a half an hour I can be over the bridge and at a videogame store in another country. If I could go over the bridge and buy GT6 now I would. I suspect many people in this city that are into GT would do the same. I'd cancel my pre-order at the same time. If the situation were reversed, I'm sure many people would cross over from Detroit to Windsor to get the game a week early. How happy do you think local retailers would be if they jumped the gun on the other side of the river if they didn't yet have the hard copies in store over here? They could lose hundreds or thousands of dollars in sales easily.
Just because you don't understand that there is "an advantage if a store gets it first" doesn't mean it isn't true.
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- granturismo2014
Um, I don't know if this is legit, but this guy already sold two already on separate listings. I am not even going to bother getting it before the release date, I have mine pre-ordered.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gran-Turism...9423?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c39a59dbf
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gran-Turism...9423?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c39a59dbf
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