PURE | Chevy Camaro Cup | Series Champion: Dr_Watson

[CSLACR]

We running some laps tonight guys?

 

[carracerptp]

I hope to stop running 58s and figure out why it's always hit or miss at this track for me.
So yes, I will be on later (8:30PM EST).

 

[OwensRacing]

Any rooms up?

 

[Müle]

I keep trying to play bowling in PS Home but it keeps freezing y whole PS3 up

Might make a room if someone else doesn't already.

 

[carracerptp]

I decided to open a "private" room so I could just try and find time.
I was switching between the tunes posted (thanks guys 👍) and decide on changing outlaws tune a bit.

RH: -0/-3
SR: 11.0/9.6
D(E): 4/6
D(C): 6/4
ARB: 3/3
Camber: 2.4/2.0
Toe: 0.00/-0.30

LSD: 5/60/10

Downforce: 35/60

Brakes: 4/4

Tranny:
Max Speed to Minimum --> Final @ 2.550


Changing the bake bias to 4/4 did wonders, I was so unbalanced entering corners that my exit speeds could have been better if I dove a Prius.

Trailing in under braking felt right again so I could stay on the grip line "sorta". I'm getting 57.6 to 58.0s right now, still slow but better than 58.5s with a luck 57.7.

 

[Husqvarman]

Sorry guys I'm not sure to participate tomorrow, the start is after midnight for me so it could be early due to harvest time, it will depend on weather. Then I haven't had time to drive on the track yet.



I bought a dfp (the old dfgt) in 2006 and a G27 in 2011 so I don't know why but I still prefer the dfp ... Stability isn't a problem, I use to tighten it during races... btw, I often choose a tune that need many fast coorections

 

[CSLACR]

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I decided to open a "private" room so I could just try and find time.
I was switching between the tunes posted (thanks guys 👍) and decide on changing outlaws tune a bit.

RH: -0/-3
SR: 11.0/9.6
D(E): 4/6
D(C): 6/4
ARB: 3/3
Camber: 2.4/2.0
Toe: 0.00/-0.30

LSD: 5/60/10

Downforce: 35/60

Brakes: 4/4

Tranny:
Max Speed to Minimum --> Final @ 2.550


Changing the bake bias to 4/4 did wonders, I was so unbalanced entering corners that my exit speeds could have been better if I dove a Prius.

Trailing in under braking felt right again so I could stay on the grip line "sorta". I'm getting 57.6 to 58.0s right now, still slow but better than 58.5s with a luck 57.7.

I'm not telling you how you have to set your car, but the shocks are backwards. I assume they're listed ext f/r comp f/r.
Mine are now 8/6 3/5 for example.

 

[carracerptp]

Nope, I'm using what I posted. Outlaw made the tune. I have know idea why they are like that, but I like the way the car feels

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

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I'm not telling you how you have to set your car, but the shocks are backwards. I assume they're listed ext f/r comp f/r.
Mine are now 8/6 3/5 for example.

Nope, I'm using what I posted. Outlaw made the tune. I have know idea why they are like that, but I like the way the car feels

I've always thought the game had the spring and damper settings backwards. Whatever the case may be, my settings sure beat default.

With the brakes, I'll admit it gets dicey on entry, but it feels like a net gain on exits.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Dunno if you've already got something for it but you might check out Walmart for some rubber type fabric you can cut and put between the bottom of the wheel and on the top of the clamps and your desk. I can't remember what it's called but I have a roll of it here. We use it to keep things from slipping around on the counter tops. Been hunting around the internet trying to find a link, but no luck so far. If I find a link or a picture somewhere, I'll post it in.

Found it. My wife is a genius! Search for shelf liner at walmart.com turned up this

 

[OwensRacing]

Found it. My wife is a genius! Search for shelf liner at walmart.com turned up this http://www.walmart.com/ip/Duck-12-x-20-Select-Easy-Liner/16456560

I used that stuff to make CF effect on RC cars lol lay it inside body tape in place. Lightly spray your black over it. Remove and spray with silver. Viola looks pretty close for a RC.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Ran 1:56.778 with a really good sector 2. Concerned about getting beat by a one-stop strategy, so that only means driving on the limit every lap.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Ran 1:56.778 with a really good sector 2. Concerned about getting beat by a one-stop strategy, so that only means driving on the limit every lap.

eesh.... where am I losing a 1/2 second?




http://youtu.be/R8VD_y-qVig?hd=1

 

[Nicktune]

I won't be able to race this sunday.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

eesh.... where am I losing a 1/2 second?

No doubt about it. It's Sector 3.

 

[Dr_Watson]

No doubt about it. It's Sector 3.

do I need to go flat through schumacher? (my car doesn't like doing that without pushing toward ze beech)

(so you must be hitting that check-point before the chicane carrying a mid 1'29?)

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

do I need to go flat through schumacher? (my car doesn't like doing that without pushing toward ze beech)

(so you must be hitting that check-point before the chicane carrying a mid 1'29?)

These are my splits:

36.167 / 26.249 / 27.441 / 26.921 = 1:56.778

With the S, I go about 90% for a moment, then cut the car in with full throttle. It's a little tricky, though. The next corner's where I try braking a little early. Why? Because it's key that the car's stable when entering the last corner in that sector. You're down in the 76-78 mph range where if I nail it, I'm going 81-83.

 

[CSLACR]

Yes, a very good first half there Tim, you'll be nitpicking hairs to gain time before sector 3.

Re-made my tune as well. New gears and everything, after I finally got my wheel back together last night. Working good though now.


Aero:
35/60

Transmission:
Set Final Gear to 3.200
Set top speed to Minimum
4260
3400
2750
2240
1869
1585
Final gear 2.000

LSD:
8/18/5

Suspension:
10/10
10.0/8.5
7/5
3/5
2/2

Camber/Toe:
2.4/1.2
-0.10/-0.50

Brakes:
BB: 4/3
ABS: 1

Nope, I'm using what I posted. Outlaw made the tune. I have know idea why they are like that, but I like the way the car feels

I've always thought the game had the spring and damper settings backwards. Whatever the case may be, my settings sure beat default.

With the brakes, I'll admit it gets dicey on entry, but it feels like a net gain on exits.

Well, it's probably why the toe is so much lower than mine. The shocks are causing more oversteer than stock under braking , and while the shocks are/would cause even more understeer than stock on exit, the max-accel lsd is making it looser on exit. Between these two, if the mid-corner balance were more neutral it'd start breaking loose anytime other than mid-corner.
I've seen this type of setup run for a long time, I just don't get along with it for some reason.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Practice room up;

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@CSL, Thanks for posting that up pre-race. Will punch that in shortly and take her for a spin.
Hmm seems not matter which I set first, final or top speed, I can either get the low gears to hit the mark or the high gears. Did you reset to default before you set these up or went from previous settings?

Closest I could get was first to 4273 and matched all the rest.

@maxking, That practice race was a blast. Thanks for waiting up, or sliding out, or whatever, that let me catch you. I'll just have to watch the replay to remember how many laps I actually got to race with a couple of cars. And Husq' I didn't really expect you to catch us after you fell to last in the first lap. The randoms all bailed and you musta been hustlin', at least I hope you were.

 

[OwensRacing]

Dragging major rear today. Was up all night.

I'm sucking on a Red Bull now. Hopefully I can shake the tiredness till after the race. I'll be there considering I dont fall asleep.

 

[CSLACR]

Practice room up;

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@CSL, Thanks for posting that up pre-race. Will punch that in shortly and take her for a spin.
Hmm seems not matter which I set first, final or top speed, I can either get the low gears to hit the mark or the high gears. Did you reset to default before you set these up or went from previous settings?

Closest I could get was first to 4273 and matched all the rest.

That's good enough, I'll have to play with it and see what I fudged up. Not a clue atm. Coming back to the room now, t-storm on the way with me.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

That's good enough, I'll have to play with it and see what I fudged up. Not a clue atm. Coming back to the room now, t-storm on the way with me.

From where I am you haven't left. lol

 

[Dr_Watson]

These are my splits:

36.167 / 26.249 / 27.441 / 26.921 = 1:56.778

With the S, I go about 90% for a moment, then cut the car in with full throttle. It's a little tricky, though. The next corner's where I try braking a little early. Why? Because it's key that the car's stable when entering the last corner in that sector. You're down in the 76-78 mph range where if I nail it, I'm going 81-83.

ahh.. yeah, I've kept it above 81 in bit-kurve before... those two corners (Michelin and Bit Kurve after schumacher) are always my bane at nurF.

As far as setups go, I'm surprised you guys don't like positive rear toe here. With a little +toe out back I find I can get to WOT so much sooner through the cambered hairpins.

 

[GenkoMax]

Can't make this one

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

ahh.. yeah, I've kept it above 81 in bit-kurve before... those two corners (Michelin and Bit Kurve after schumacher) are always my bane at nurF.

I'm usually in the same boat, especially with Bit, so it's unusual that my car's doing well there. Must be the setup.

As far as setups go, I'm surprised you guys don't like positive rear toe here. With a little +toe out back I find I can get to WOT so much sooner through the cambered hairpins.

The only time I add positive rear toe is with cars that are wrecking loose out of the box. Otherwise, I can't stand how every car in GT5 has it.

 

[CSLACR]

ahh.. yeah, I've kept it above 81 in bit-kurve before... those two corners (Michelin and Bit Kurve after schumacher) are always my bane at nurF.

As far as setups go, I'm surprised you guys don't like positive rear toe here. With a little +toe out back I find I can get to WOT so much sooner through the cambered hairpins.

With positive toe I don't think the car will be going as quickly through the corner. Get on it sooner, but from a lower speed.
Now do as the aliens would do if they were here, and use negative toe!

 

[CodeRedR51]

I try to use as little toe as possible. I stay away from setups that use a lot of it.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

LMAO

I pretty sure I'm the only one in this series who's not and alien. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

With positive toe I don't think the car will be going as quickly through the corner. Get on it sooner, but from a lower speed.
Now do as the aliens would do if they were here, and use negative toe!

Where else did I learn about the negative toe?

I try to use as little toe as possible. I stay away from setups that use a lot of it.

I will say that I didn't like the rear toe with the feedback at max. It's more manageable at 5.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

I try to use as little toe as possible. I stay away from setups that use a lot of it.

And herein lies one of his secrets to tire wear godliness.