PURE FMSC | Hydra World Championship / HDCS | Pre-Season Discussion

[CodeRedR51]

What!?! I need to test this... I just assumed that the softies would wear faster or at least different.

Nope, pretty sure they're all the same.

 

[NEPALII]

What!?! I need to test this... I just assumed that the softies would wear faster or at least different.

I thought you knew that... Yeah, softs and hards have about the same wear. We desperately need a new tire model

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

What!?! I need to test this... I just assumed that the softies would wear faster or at least different.

That's how it works in the real world and in most racing games.

Not in GT5. 👎

 

[Wardez]

There's only a few ways to do the whole "open tire race" thing well.

Either you make up a tight set of pit windows, which really isn't strategic at all since every one will go for softs.

Or you make the races short enough (and it would be different lengths according to delta time) that it would a close call between choosing to not pit and stay out on the harder tire or decide to lose time by pitting and going to a softer compound.
But then you would make it so those that choose to do the risky thing and pit really need to haul ass to get back up there.

It would then be up to the driver on whether they think they have consistency on hard tires not to pit or the sheer speed to pit.

So let's say you have a 20 lap race where you set the pit window to start at lap 10 where we start on hards but are allowed to change to mediums.

*A leader pits, delta time's 25 seconds. So he has a
25 second gap to make up in 10laps. Being about 2 to 3 seconds than on the harder ( and with the person who doesn't pit getting slower at the same time because of increasing wear) *tire he should be catching right up before the end, if he pushes it, to make for a good battle to the finish.
The sweet spot there would be between giving them 10 to 12 laps to do it. Which would need testing or running some simulations on paper according the average times.

But I'd totally recommend only allowing down to mediums, not softs.

Only problem with having a pit window during a race with heavy damage is that someone's eventually gonna get damaged before the pit window so you would need to make sure the guy doesn't accidentally slap on a softer tire before pit window, essentially forcing him to pit twice, which sucks.

 

[Dr_Watson]

That's how it works in the real world and in most racing games.

Not in GT5. 👎

That's so lame... even in other GT games the softies wore quicker. If they wear the same never mind everything I said before. As it's pointless since it won't change the pit-situation at all.
What a bone headed thing to have not fixed after a year of patches.

 

[CSLACR]

TBH in GT3 and GT4 when soft tires did wear quicker then hards, it was still faster overall 9 times out of 10 to run racing softs anyway. 5-10 seconds a lap adds up to a pit stop very quickly.

 

[CodeRedR51]

What a bone headed thing to have not fixed after a year of patches.

Nobody has publicly complained about it enough I don't think. I don't ever use those tires since it makes the game too arcadey for me, so it's not a huge deal.

 

[Dr_Watson]

@ RT,
When we were talking about the gamer tags in the other thread you mentioned you'd be interested in the fact that I can write whatever text you want on images... so I whipped up a very quick and dirty example of just some of the useful black magic that can be done with php for dynamically creating data-driven images.

http://www.gate19.net/temp/pngfun/index.html

edit: here's the script that actually makes the images: http://www.gate19.net/temp/pngfun/pngfun.php?row=2
tinker with the row number and it will generate a different image based on the CSV spreadsheet data:

       pos,pts,races,poles,wins,podiums,car
row0    1,154,5,5,5,5,car41.png
row1    2,125,5,0,0,5,car33.png
row2    3,122,5,0,0,5,car19.png

 

[carracerptp]

@ RT,
When we were talking about the gamer tags in the other thread you mentioned you'd be interested in the fact that I can write whatever text you want on images... so I whipped up a very quick and dirty example of just some of the useful black magic that can be done with php for dynamically creating data-driven images.

http://www.gate19.net/temp/pngfun/index.html

Very cool.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Those are awesome. The main reason I wanted to use the other ones is because I like their size. Can they be made smaller?

 

[Dr_Watson]

Those are awesome. The main reason I wanted to use the other ones is because I like their size. Can they be made smaller?

Everything is changeable.
The idea is you make one version in photoshop.
Flatten the layers that don't change into a base image.
Then the text layers get created on the fly by the script based on a spreadsheet export. And any image layers (like in my example the car pics from s3) get layered on dynamically.

 

[Diabolical_J]

@ RT,
When we were talking about the gamer tags in the other thread you mentioned you'd be interested in the fact that I can write whatever text you want on images... so I whipped up a very quick and dirty example of just some of the useful black magic that can be done with php for dynamically creating data-driven images.

http://www.gate19.net/temp/pngfun/index.html

edit: here's the script that actually makes the images: http://www.gate19.net/temp/pngfun/pngfun.php?row=2
tinker with the row number and it will generate a different image based on the CSV spreadsheet data:

       pos,pts,races,poles,wins,podiums,car
row0    1,154,5,5,5,5,car41.png
row1    2,125,5,0,0,5,car33.png
row2    3,122,5,0,0,5,car19.png

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

 

[CodeRedR51]

If anyone has one of these and hasn't driven it yet, I highly recommend it:

 

[carracerptp]

If anyone has one of these and hasn't driven it yet, I highly recommend it:

I have 1 or 2.... not sure.
I have only raced it in a shuffle and loved it. Great balance, nice power band.

 

[Adam41]

I would happily drive this new spec car on sport softs without doing a pit stop. But please don't use racing softs... seriously now lol.

 

[carracerptp]

I would happily drive this new spec car on sport softs without doing a pit stop. But please don't use racing softs... seriously now lol.

Racing softs, anything with less than 1000BHP should never use RS...

 

[SohnVonStig]

I think sports softs with racing hards as the option tire would work beautifully. The ss tires plus the heavy damage would force us towards to true racing behaviors IMO.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I would happily drive this new spec car on sport softs without doing a pit stop. But please don't use racing softs... seriously now lol.

I don't do RS tires.

With that said, I do feel that Racing Hards are a bit sticky as-is at certain tracks. Will have to do some more testing. I was in outlaw's lounge the other night and we were both having severe understeer issues at Indy.

I have 1 or 2.... not sure.
I have only raced it in a shuffle and loved it. Great balance, nice power band.

Mine in the photo has a Stage 1 engine upgrade, SR exhaust, intake, etc. I went full racing spec with weight reduction and the rear wing, racing hard tires. Loaded up a tune from GTVault and the thing is a monster. Great balance indeed.

Edit: This doesn't really have to be a secret, so I'll just spill the beans. For the next season we'll be collaborating with the PURE guys and will become a PURE sanctioned series. Just another step towards becoming a little more professional. 👍

 

[Diabolical_J]

If anyone has one of these and hasn't driven it yet, I highly recommend it:

My company's web security blocks photobucket... what is it?

 

[CodeRedR51]

My company's web security blocks photobucket... what is it?

Shelby Series-1

Edit: That means you can't see any of my pictures then.

 

[Diabolical_J]

Shelby Series-1

Edit: That means you can't see any of my pictures then.

Oh ok, I think I have two or three of those and I always meant to go back and drive it since it looks like a fun car, just never got around to it.

I usually work remotely, so I just disconnect from our VPN for a few minutes if I know there are pictures or something in the thread that I can't see. I can't do that when I'm in the office though The things that really annoys me, aside from the fact that it blocks some really stupid harmless things at times, is the fact that it doesn't let me know it's blocking a picture or something. Rather than show up as a red x, it doesn't show anything, so it looks to me like you said "check out this picture" but forgot to attach the picture. Oh well, they pay me, so I guess I shouldn't complain haha.

 

[Dr_Watson]

our proxy replaces the blocked youtube and social networking stuff with a nice little "Content Blocked" splash page from info security.
much nicer.

 

[CodeRedR51]

No blockage here.

 

[NEPALII]

No blockage here.

I wonder what you are doing when you get bored at work...

 

[CodeRedR51]

I wonder what you are doing when you get bored at work...

I'm practically on here all day, but GTP is open in another window. Right now I'm adding attributes to brake products on our website, so while our website is loading, I switch over.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I'm practically on here all day, but GTP is open in another window. Right now I'm adding attributes to brake products on our website, so while our website is loading, I switch over.

I'm also here all day. Of course, that's pretty easy when you're home most of the day.

 

[Dr_Watson]

I'm practically on here all day, but GTP is open in another window. Right now I'm adding attributes to brake products on our website, so while our website is loading, I switch over.

site looks pretty awesome once our corporate proxy is done with it.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I like how the ad is still there though.

 

[Wardez]

I remember seeing this awesome website that would convert any website into looking like it's a straight up excel spreadsheet. A lot of people found it useful for hiding their forum lurking at work, heh.

Back to topic:
this series is cool.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Back to topic:
this series is cool.

Indeed.

And I'll sneak this in here too: