PURE | JGTS - Going on strong and adapting in the face of change!

[TheMinion]

Could someone from room 2 post the replay?
It seems you guys had more fun then us

Gratz to TA btw, he won our 6-7 men race in room 1 and did a impressive 13.9 lap.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Here's a couple pictures showing my unfortunate sequence of events on Lap 2. And a bonus picture of the Lap 1 cleanliness that was Turn 1 in the second room.

 

[The Outlaw]

That was a pretty dissapointing race, and I reminder why I don't care much for GT5 anymore It seems like everytime I do a Super GT race it's a big azz production (between people who can't connect, DC's, restarts, black screens...2 of which forced me to restart my ps3, stupid incidents, etc.) just to get a race underway...and let me tell you it really gets tiresome after awhile Not to mention that it tends to completely put me out of rhythm by the time the race finally gets going...which is probably why I drove so poorly today.

Just to be clear, I don't have hard feelings towards anyone in particular, obviously mistakes happen, but with only 12-14 cars on the track, there's just no reason for first corner pileups, especially on a track like Spa where you gain all your time back (If you drive cautious) immediately.

It's so irritating because it happens so often, it seems like half the races I start in JGTC cars end up a bumper car match the first lap or two, and typically, my amount of respect for other drivers position just leaves me vulnerable to the next aggressive driver in line behind me.
Makes me feel like I'm being punished for driving properly.

Much respect for Dennis, and I understand the amount of restarts grew ridiculous, but by the time half the field realized we were starting on lap 1, the race was semi-over for us. Why would you want to continue at that point?

Maybe he did say we're going on lap 1, I don't know, but if he did, half the field or more still didn't know what to do at that point, were we lining up? Were we taking the random grid PD handed out? I still don't know for sure, but there certainly wasn't time or space for me to get to third before the start.

Grid start races tend to go off without a hitch, almost every time.

Sorry you got the short end of stick today

Dennis did say we were starting on the first lap after the first corner (I happened to catch when he typed that). But it's one of those things that is easy to miss if you happened to take your eyes off of the chat window for whatever reason. Dennis probably should have reiterated the fact that we were starting after turn 1 (as well that we were going to reform into the Q positions), but I think by that point, him as well as a lot of us were beggining to lose our patience and just wanted to get on with it lol.

As far as not having time to get to your grid position....you would have had plenty of time had you seen (no pun intended) that we were starting after the first corner. I putted away from my grid position (I happened to start in first) very slowly up the first corner to allow everyone to reorganize and reclaim their rightful grid position...but I saw very little movement and reshuffling behind me so I started to slowly pick up the pace after exiting turn 1. Once I saw Dennis and the other cars get the clue that I was beggining to pick up speed I eventually got on it about 1/2 between La Source and the beginning of Eau Rouge.

Could someone from room 2 post the replay?
It seems you guys had more fun then us

Gratz to TA btw, he won our 6-7 men race in room 1 and did a impressive 13.9 lap.

Thanks mate, hopefully we have better luck next time

 

[Dr_Watson]

Could someone from room 2 post the replay?
It seems you guys had more fun then us

Gratz to TA btw, he won our 6-7 men race in room 1 and did a impressive 13.9 lap.

After I'm done playing around tonight I can upload a copy for NTSC people.

 

[Denilson]

Race 1: Report

Firstly, I have to appologize for not making everything totally clear prior race. I thought that most of us have experiance from a rolling start procedure. Reason why we have it is part because they do it in real SGT, part because we are not setting our quali laps prior race (As we did to day), and part because the Syetem tend to mess up times and sort the grid randomly from time to time. And since it's a hassle to start organizing a start thru the chat (As you might noticed ) a pre race quli followed by a formation lap where we sort our grid spots is the way to go.

I feel really bad for anyone who felt left behind. I always try to do my best. And honestly, when we kept on racing the last time, (Even tho the reasons for a restart was there since exactly the same issue was enough for a restart the race before) was that the time was at this point 18.30, that's 30 minutes late. It's not doable to start a race that late. I, my self had arranged so I can play, but id the actual start time is pushed 30 minutes, there's no way we can keep on restarting. I believe it was Aliens96 who was the unlucky guy, and I'm trul sorry. I'm sure you understand the reason why we kept on.

One thing that we need to agree on is to stay off the chat while I (or the host) do weight checks, try to reorganize a restart etc.
I did type that we start after turn 1, so make sure to sort your positions fast. I also said tht we start after T1, lap 1. Some payed attention and some did not. I don't blame you guys who did not see, cause information gets lost when everybody type. So, please, have trust in me as a host, and that I know what we are doing. DO NOT FLOOD THE CHAT. The chat is my only tool to communicate in the last few minutes prior race, and the less people type, the more likely my information gets thru.
I'm not a guy without selfcritisism, and it was perhaps a stupid decition from me to rework the startingprocedure in a chat where everybody was typing. I deeply apologize for that.

Further: When we are a full room, and I have to kick out drivers, and as a result get angry PSN messages that "I spoke to "x", and he told me bla bla bla, this is the 3rd time I get kicked out from joinung GTP_Series.. jada jada jada"

Firstly: Any new driver have to post in this thread in order to be signed up.
Why?
1. He does not know how he can set his car up. (Mods, PP, Weight, Bhp etc.)
2. The room is (probably) full.
3. Does he know the starting procedure?
4. How can I separate a random, from one of your friends?

But all this aside, there is actually a reason for a pre season race.
Exactly what happend is why we run pre season races. I did not expect it to be flaw less in any way, even tho I did not epect the kind of issues we had.
It's vital to stay sharp prior race. As well as knowing procedures etc.
I can see why many of you was upset, and I was too.
But to get this thing going, we have to pass a few obsticles along the way. And this first race was one.

So, did we find out something good from this:
Yes, we did.
1. The YMS SUPRA seems on par (Would love if Joshua1994 could elaborate).
2. The NSX is not as dominant as it was a few days ago. It's now at 605 pp, 517 Bhp wich def slowed it down the straights. The reason why we had 2 NSXs as winners are mostly because of the drivers (Aderrrm and Timeattack) more than anything else.

What do we need to improve:
1. Practice the formationlap, and how to make it without causing dmage. And also.... T1!! All drivers here know about this.. Make sure to use your head during the first few laps. Because if you don't, your race is ruined pretty fast, and you'll have a bad experiance from it. And ofc, if the drivers next to you do not, your race can also be a mess because of it. Use your head, respect your FELLOW racers.
It's a state of mind really.. We need to understand that we are gathered here to race among drivers that respect eachother. I'm sure we all know what that meens. Start acting like it!
2. We need to improve diciplin in the race room, in the chat and in this thread.
* It will make it easier to snap up any information stated by the race host.
* It will reduce the number of questions regarding mods, regs, etc. All questions I recieved in the chat is information wery clealy stated in this thread.
3. We need to set rules regarding DC's, restarts etc.

What seems to be a huge issue is that many only race for a win. This is a pre-season race, and it's for testing out cars etc. Many of you left, and as a result we have less information regarding the cars. So even if the front runners got a too big of a gap down to the mid pack, to keep on racing is more important.
It's sad that some can't be open minded enough to understand the imprtance of this. Just because you got left behind in a pre season race without the possibility to win, does not make it legit to just leave, sorry, but that's the way I feel.
If this would've been the real season, a start would ofc not be accepted like that. But now, when it was 30 minutes late, and it was a pre season race.. FFS, just go!
How do you expect all car to be equaly matched if you do not even race? This is the only proper full race tests we can do.. We got 1 more shot.. make it count!


Any good parts:
Yes!
All drivers that signed up did show!! 👍 👍
I was a tad worried about Pag and Joshua1994 for a while, but you guys made it.
If theres' is anything more I expect from the turnout, it's that I'd love if all drivers could show around Connect Time (45 minutes prior race). It gives you time to reset your PS3 in case of any trouble etc..
Also, people jumpimg in and out of the room (Not the DC's) to change oil etc.. Please do so prior room entry. All leaving/joining put stress on the connection. Help GT5 help us! 👍

So from this race, we can only improve as a group.
We have one more race to sort out any issues before we go "live". And I'm sertain next race will run much more smooth. We just need to get to know eachother and stay more diciplined in general, and I'm sure we'll see some epic racing.

 

[Litchi]

Could someone from room 2 post the replay?
It seems you guys had more fun then us

Gratz to TA btw, he won our 6-7 men race in room 1 and did a impressive 13.9 lap.

I post the replay in a few hours 👍

EDIT: replay of room 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=43BX1VN0

 

[CSLACR]

Further: When we are a full room, and I have to kick out drivers, and as a result get angry PSN messages that "I spoke to "x", and he told me bla bla bla, this is the 3rd time I get kicked out from joinung GTP_Series.. jada jada jada"

Firstly: Any new driver have to post in this thread in order to be signed up.
Why?
1. He does not know how he can set his car up. (Mods, PP, Weight, Bhp etc.)
2. The room is (probably) full.
3. Does he know the starting procedure?
4. How can I separate a random, from one of your friends?

I can't recall his name, I think Montana? If that's the guy you speak of, I'm not sure what he was thinking. I kicked him last night from a practice as our room started getting full, he asked about joining, I very clearly told him he would need to run some practice races with us/me in the future if he wanted a shot getting into this, and that it's invitational only.
I also told him he'd need to come sign up on GTP and post in this thread signing up if/when I saw he was a fair, clean, and respectful driver, so if that's the guy bugging you, don't even worry about him, that tells us everything we need to know - mainly that he doesn't pay attention or listen very well.

HTrio, on the other hand, knew somebody and was joining us in practice, for some reason I had assumed he was signed up already but in any case, if he has the interest and wants to sign up/read thread, etc, I think a few of us will give him a recommendation, he did excellent in our practice races as far as I saw.

What seems to be a huge issue is that many only race for a win. This is a pre-season race, and it's for testing out cars etc. Many of you left, and as a result we have less information regarding the cars. So even if the front runners got a too big of a gap down to the mid pack, to keep on racing is more important.
It's sad that some can't be open minded enough to understand the imprtance of this. Just because you got left behind in a pre season race without the possibility to win, does not make it legit to just leave, sorry, but that's the way I feel.
If this would've been the real season, a start would ofc not be accepted like that. But now, when it was 30 minutes late, and it was a pre season race.. FFS, just go!
How do you expect all car to be equaly matched if you do not even race? This is the only proper full race tests we can do.. We got 1 more shot.. make it count!

I wasn't "in it for the win" by any means, and while I hadn't thought of the testing aspect, tbh races at Spa are somewhat useless for testing imo, because it's so easy to stick with someone by their draft, and only their draft.
I left because it felt like somewhat of a slap in the face, after all those restarts, sticking to that one.
Very much agreed on chat clutter, I did see you changed the start line, I just didn't see that it would be on first lap, timeattack was at the top of eau rouge while I was at the old start line before I figured out everyone was going, so with the cluster we had going, I assumed we would restart one last time.
I appreciate the value of testing as much as anyone, I plan to do some more, maybe even tire wear tests, I'm sure what happened today won't happen again, won't happen to such an extreme again.

Wholeheartedly agree with everything else you said, especially the DC issues, and people taking off at the last second for "oil". We're all smart enough to understand miles don't add up in online practice,(only races) and we can all handle changing oil well before race start time. That's something that's been bugging the crap out of me for a while.

Definitely need a DC policy, I've had issues in the past, most of us have at some point, and while I like to wait for people because I want everyone to be able to race, and I'm empathetic with connection issues from my own issues, today goes to show why we just can't, because if it's not the same guy, it's someone else. Usually it turns into a cycle, and eventually someone gets left out anyway, and they're rightfully upset, because we waited for everyone else.
And I'd say leaving for oil changes just becomes at your own risk, period. Not a single restart or minute waited again for senseless last minute oil changes that could have been done before they entered the room. There is just absolutely no reason to need one then, at all.

Dennis did say we were starting on the first lap after the first corner (I happened to catch when he typed that). But it's one of those things that is easy to miss if you happened to take your eyes off of the chat window for whatever reason. Dennis probably should have reiterated the fact that we were starting after turn 1 (as well that we were going to reform into the Q positions), but I think by that point, him as well as a lot of us were beggining to lose our patience and just wanted to get on with it lol.

I absolutely agree, shame many of us missed that, I know you held up, my direct issue was (through no real fault of his own) Nepalli coming from behind, I heard him off the line, and just had to wait to avoid an accident, had I known we were starting on lap 1, I might have made it up, in any case, certainly not your fault. 👍

The issues we had today were an obscene spectacle of "worst case scenario" which we will hopefully learn from, most importantly, taking it easy off the start.
If everyone took it easy through turn 1,(on our first start) we would have went off without a hitch, just like room 2. I think that's the most important thing we can all take from today.

 

[PureGTMuzz]

I thought the room 2 start went pretty well overall to be honest. Ok one guy forgot the formation lap and took off. We restarted because a couple of guys had some damage. Only caused really because we got thrown into a little indecision. The rest of it was connection issues. After we all waited patiently and got the formation lap going it was pretty to watch in the replay. Everyone seemed to start in the right order. It was sweet.

I had bit of a shocker myself to be honest. Had to pit at the end of lap one, my fault for which I have apologised to the other driver over the XMB. I also just couldn't get any rhythm going, especially at Eau Rouge and Blanchimont for most of the first stint. I got lapped and came last over all but I enjoyed it. Great racing with you guys.

My only not even negative comment is.. It is not wise to push behind a driver getting lapped thereby perhaps forcing them into an error that could well take both of you out. They are obviously not having a good day and not on form. They see you, they know they have to yeild, They'll find a spot and yeild as soon as they feel it is safe to do so. There's nothing more soul destroying for a slower driver than taking a quick one out.

 

[Denilson]

Well said CSLACR. 👍

 

[TheMinion]

I post the replay in a few hours 👍

EDIT: replay of room 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=43BX1VN0

Thanks man!
Appreciate it

Edit: Damn EU replays dont work on US ps3's.

 

[Dr_Watson]

I post the replay in a few hours 👍

EDIT: replay of room 2: PAL Replay

Nice, here's an NTSC US Replay to go with it. 👍

 

[Joppo7]

Hi, I'm new to any racing series, and would like to take part of this series. But it seems, that currently there is no room left for me So I would like to know, does the season 3 (?) begin right after the current season ends, even though this season hasn't even begun fully yet Thank you for your time

Joppo7

 

[Adam41]

After a few problems in room 2 (as already explained) the race went really well. Turn 1 was also well behaved, and I had forgot how bad turn 1 can be in gt500 cars. Big 👍 to everyone in room 2 on that one.

The NSX seemed the faster car here and after being indecisive about doing 1 or 2 stops, I thought 2 stops would be more exciting and I would run less risk of running out of tyre. Similar to Mole, my car was moving around on me mid-corner, even through the high speed corners towards the last few laps of a stint. I'd love to fix it by tuning the car, if only I knew how.

Do we have a spreadsheet to put results in or similar, despite this being just a practice race? Either way, I'll post the results up here along with fastest laps later today.

One thing that we need to agree on is to stay off the chat while I (or the host) do weight checks, try to reorganize a restart etc.
I did type that we start after turn 1, so make sure to sort your positions fast. I also said tht we start after T1, lap 1. Some payed attention and some did not. I don't blame you guys who did not see, cause information gets lost when everybody type. So, please, have trust in me as a host, and that I know what we are doing. DO NOT FLOOD THE CHAT. The chat is my only tool to communicate in the last few minutes prior race, and the less people type, the more likely my information gets thru.

If theres' is anything more I expect from the turnout, it's that I'd love if all drivers could show around Connect Time (45 minutes prior race). It gives you time to reset your PS3 in case of any trouble etc..
Also, people jumpimg in and out of the room (Not the DC's) to change oil etc.. Please do so prior room entry. All leaving/joining put stress on the connection. Help GT5 help us! 👍

👍👍

If you need to talk, talk. Don't be afraid to talk if you think there is something wrong but please try and limit the talking especially when PP/weight checks are being done, and through qualifying. These weren't major issues in room 2 but I can imagine how room 1 must have been.

Cheers.

 

[Ansem29GTPlay]

nice race yesterday good game to all 👍 i liked it
very fair and clean
just the problem with the first start like you said but it was nothing

i'm just wondering, can i be register in the competition ?

thank you

 

[Denilson]

I'm going to put you and your friend in the list shortly. I'm on the phone at the moment..

 

[Joshua1994]

YMS Supra feels perfectly fine to be honest. Before the pre-season race, I still had it set up as the WSGTC tune, 1090kg and no reinforcement. Put them on just before and to be fair, it feels much better at 1130kg. Not as twitchy coming out of corners which is much better.

Overall Dennis, im pretty sure the YMS's is dialed. Managed to keep up with you for 5-6 laps, and I fell behind because of a mistake only to blame myself.

 

[GV27]

I had a horrible race myself, and I can't give any information since I'm bad at setting up the car and was using a stock tuned Denso Sard Dunlop Lexus. It was still very fun. 👍

 

[CSLACR]

Nissan GTR SuperGT Online Racing Tune


Suspension:
-5 / -5
15.8/15.8
7 / 8
8 / 7
5 / 5

Camber/Toe:
1.5 / 1.0
0.00 / 0.20

LSD:
9 / 12 / 5

BB: 4/3
ABS: 1


Here's a basic rundown, on what I feel each piece changes.
Keep in mind the car specific statements are for the GTR


Ride Height
-5 / -5 - Higher equals more traction, meaning the wheels won't spin so easily, lower gives faster cornering speeds, I recommend keeping them level or as close as possible in general, just find a ride height you can control, as low as possible, I never ran below -5 on any track outside of Spa. (but you have stickier tires, so test yourself)

Springs
15.8/15.8 - Stiffer equals sharper response, more loss of grip over bumps, faster tire wear, overall faster lap times for me generally. Softer requires more precise steering inputs, but absorbs bumps better, losses traction less easily, and helps with tire wear. Generally slower lap times for me.

Shocks 1
7 / 8 - A setting like this (lower number front then rear) reduces over-steer when accelerating, at any speed, helps control exiting corners, because the rear isn't sliding as quickly. The opposite (higher front then rear) helps an under-steering car rotate when exiting, something I've never needed with this car. - On acceleration only though. (keep in mind, this goes in tandem with accel lsd settings)

Shocks 2
8 / 7 - Works under braking, same as above essentially, this car under-steers a bit under braking stock, so I put the front higher then the rear, the opposite is, well, opposite. (keep in mind, this goes in tandem with lsd decel and BB/ABS settings)

Swaybars
5 / 5 - In tandem with springs and ride height somewhat. Stiffer equals faster cornering for me, worse tire wear and worse over bumps, softer a bit slower, better tire wear, just like springs, softer requires more precise steering input. Higher number on front induces over-steer, higher on rear under-steer.

Camber
1.5 / 1.0 - A big tire wear factor in GT5, higher makes you go faster, but wears tires out quicker, I use this as a tool depending on balance of the car, but typically higher front then rear is best for me. Can be used for under/over-steer issues if needed, but since the rears like to wear out first on this car, I go low camber on the rear, using the rest of suspension to give me the balance I'm looking for. Higher camber also has more benefit with stickier tires, and lower, stiffer suspension settings. But again, at the cost of extra tire wear.

Toe
0.00 / +0.10 - Negative front toe lessons steering response, positive increases it. Negative rear toe increases speed of rotation, meaning the car can become very snappy, and also lessens rear grip. Positive rear toe increases rear grip, and decreases "snappyness" meaning the car won't react quite so quickly, and you'll have more grip, especially exiting slower corners.
Toe, especially rear toe, has more effect on slow corners then fast, a good tool for sorting low/high speed corner differences. Positive toe also makes tires wear faster, so use it when you need it, but don't use more then you need.

LSD
9 / 12 / 5 - Lower equals better cornering, allows the wheels to spin at different speeds as they naturally have to by demand of physics, meaning the outside tire must spin faster then the inside tire, because it covers more distance. Lower also prevents spinning the car out when you break a tire loose, because while the inside tire spins, the outside (grip tire) keeps cornering traction. A setting of 5/5/5 makes it very hard to spin out.
Initial torque is just how quickly the lsd will activate once slip occurs, whether decelerating or accelerating, a higher initial results in that God awful "see-saw" motion. I never run higher then 9, usually 8.

Brakes
BB 4/3 - Set lower makes it easier to brake in small amounts, without slowing down more then you want to, it's something I picked up from fast guys in racing online, also helps reduce tire wear.
Lower numbers do take a slight bit longer to stop, but I've never noticed while racing tbh. I set front a bit higher to intentionally wear the front tires a bit more, because driving on good fronts and bald rears is bad news. Also under-steer is easier to manage, especially in critical times of hard braking.

ABS 1 is the fastest of ABS settings, though a setting of 2 helped me until very recently as I've started working on my trail braking, but if you're allowed, 2-3 can work very good, and ease on your tire wear.

I don't have tried and tested tunes for all the cars, but this should get everyone looking for tuning tips pointed in the right direction. Tuning has proven a highly debatable topic, these are my opinions based on results I've gotten from changes. Hope this helps.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Thanks for the tune. I was running mine about 98% stock yesterday.

 

[OwensRacing]

CSLACR, you got one of those for the NSX?

 

[CSLACR]

Thanks for the tune. I was running mine about 98% stock yesterday.

NP. 👍

CSLACR, you got one of those for the NSX?

I have what I'd call base tunes for most of the cars, I'll get them up over the next few days, I can't make anything incredibly fancy, just because what works on one track doesn't always work on the next. That's where to 'how-to" section comes in.
But for the ARTA, Raybrig, Stealth, & TAKATA I've slapped my ARTA tune on all of them, so they're nicely universal for NSX's. Don't know about Epson.

I don't want to flood this thread with tunes, nor leave them hard to find, so I'll be putting the rest in my garage and adding a link to my sig in the near future.

Speaking of NSX's - Stealth NSX stock figures, fully broken in with oil change it has 541HP, so we should be able to leave that unmodded with just a smaller amount of limiter from the others, with a bit more power for having slightly worse powerband in the end, imo.

 

[Müle]

Softer requires more precise steering inputs,

This would explain why I liked softer springs when I was using the DS3, but find myself stiffening them up now with the G27.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Toe
0.00 / +0.10 - Negative front toe lessons steering response, positive increases it. Negative rear toe increases speed of rotation, meaning the car can become very snappy, and also lessens rear grip. Positive rear toe increases rear grip, and decreases "snappyness" meaning the car won't react quite so quickly, and you'll have more grip, especially exiting slower corners.
Toe, especially rear toe, has more effect on slow corners then fast, a good tool for sorting low/high speed corner differences. Positive toe also makes tires wear faster, so use it when you need it, but don't use more then you need.

Great information. 👍

Toe is really nuanced though.
Positive front toe increases steering response (makes the car more 'pointy'). At initial turn in because the inside wheel is already trying to go that direction.
But once the weight transfers you get a tendency for mid corner and exit understeer. Where with negative toe you get a bit less short wheel-base style *snap* but less understeer in the corner. This is because the wheels are pointed in toward each other / \ so the outside wheel (the one with more weight and grip after roll happens) is going to track a tighter circle of a given steering input compared to no toe | | or positive toe \ /.
And then every car has it's own natural toe out as stress on the suspension tries to straighten the wheels.
And the increased tire wear of toe-in vs toe-out while the inside tire scrubs from being pointed the wrong way.

 

[Adam41]

Room 2 Results:

GTP_Aderrrm --.--- (2:13.518) TAKATA DOME NSX
lapierre4 +15.102 (2:14.715) YELLOWHAT GT-R
BrosifDuder +26.372 (2:14.682) STEALTH NSX
R1600Turbo +27.969 (2:15.775) YELLOWHAT GT-R
MoIeman +40.324 (2:15.788) PETRONAS SC430
Ansem29_GTPlay +53.522 (2:15.966) XANAVI Z
Litchi_GTPlay +1:10.671 (2:16.032) XANAVI Z
TnJF +1:18.732 (2:16.363) CASTROL TOM'S SUPRA
WiiFreak +2:34.429 (2:16.554) XANAVI GT-R
GV27- +2:54.093 (2:15.868) DENSO SC430
PureGT_Muzz +2:54.516 (2:18.290) YELLOWHAT GT-R
KamyKaze1098 DNF - DC Lap 14 CALSONIC GT-R
Josh_F_1998 DNF - DC Lap 13 CALSONIC GT-R
paulmac2k9 DNS

 

[CodeRedR51]

If only that race was a lap shorter.

 

[GV27]

Thanks Aderrrm. So I did a 2:15.8? I'm shocked!

Does anyone have a Lexus setup? I'm honestly at a loss when it comes to setting up a car...

 

[paulmac2k9]

nice Gv and the other night you said you were slow shame on you (it was just everyone else is just so damn fast )

also Den wheres the 2nd preseason race so i can get playing with all these cars to see which i like most

 

[Denilson]

Room 2 Results:

GTP_Aderrrm --.--- (2:13.518)
lapierre4 +15.102 (2:14.715)
BrosifDuder +26.372 (2:14.682)
R1600Turbo +27.969 (2:15.775)
MoIeman +40.324 (2:15.788)
Ansem29_GTPlay +53.522 (2:15.966)
Litchi_GTPlay +1:10.671 (2:16.032)
TnJF +1:18.732 (2:16.363)
WiiFreak +2:34.429 (2:16.554)
GV27- +2:54.093 (2:15.868)
PureGT_Muzz +2:54.516 (2:18.290)
KamyKaze1098 DNF - DC Lap 14
Josh_F_1998 DNF - DC Lap 13
paulmac2k9 DNS


Room 1 Results:

GTP_timeattack --.--- (2:14.341) TAKATA DOME NSX
chorda +15.762 (2:14.658) TAKATA DOME NSX
Joshua1994 + 16.222 (2:15.327) YELLOWHAT SUPRA
Minion07 + 1:03.230(2:16.552) PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
OwensRacing + 1:42.297 (2:16.852) STEALTH GT500 NSX
Neomone + 1 lap (2:20.152) ARTA NSX
BiffyClyro93 DNF
Paginas DNF
GTP_CSL DNF
NEPALII DNF
GTF_Apollo DNF
Alien96 DNF
MULE_9242 DNF
Wardez DNS

 

[The Outlaw]

Are we doing another preseason race next weekend? It would be nice to see how the different cars stack up on a much tighter circuit. Plus I'd like to do another race and see how it goes. The last one left me with a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, but I'll try and keep my hopes up for now

 

[Denilson]

Room 1: ​

PURE JGTS | Pre-Season Race | Laguna Seca | 175 km | Sunday, November 6th | Race Start: 18.00 PM (GMT)​

1. chorda - TAKATA DOME NSX
2. Scanny_Flick - XANAVI NISMO GT-R
3. Wardez - WOODONE ADVAN GT-R
4. WiiFreak - STEALTH GT500 GT-R
5. RedReevos - TBD
6. Litchi_GTPlay - TBD
7. GTP_CSL - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
8. NEPALII - Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430
9. El_Aliens69 - XANAVI NISMO Z
10. MULE_9242 - Stealth GT-R
11. Minion07 - TBD
12. PureGT_Muzz - Nissan YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R
13. GTP_Welsh-Bain - TBD
14. Ansem29_GTPlay - TBD

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