PURE | JGTS - Going on strong and adapting in the face of change!
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Room up 👍
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- ErikAndre71
It's when you change the physics in the room. Grip on track edges/wet to real you will have to reset the track. Load up another track and then go back to the track you want to drive. If you don't do this, tyres wont really get warm. So when I prepare a room I set up everything to what I want, then I change to the track I want last. At least we at ICGTC never had problems with tyres warm up slow, and we only race in private lounges
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- WrecklessAbandon
You know I keep hearing that, and I never do it, and I've never seen a room where the tires took longer to warm up either?
In any room, I've never seen this rumored lack of tire temperature, ever.
On certain tracks, like Laguna Seca I've seen the tires take forever to reach temp, but that was always a track thing, resetting didn't help.
In any room, I've never seen this rumored lack of tire temperature, ever.
On certain tracks, like Laguna Seca I've seen the tires take forever to reach temp, but that was always a track thing, resetting didn't help.
Yeah I've definitely noticed a difference before, not sure if it is less prominent now but my general experience has been that times are faster in a private lounge, and there is less oversteer. I've definitely noticed that tires take longer to heat up, and the time between how long it takes for each type of tire to wear seems smaller.. but that's just my take on it. Instead of worrying about all the little differences I just keep it simple and practice in the mode I'm going to race in.
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- WrecklessAbandon
Same here tbph.
It's not that I distrust anyone, or their experiences, but I find it hard to believe that it would be different for different people. Since I and some others see no difference, it just makes more sense to me that it be a placebo effect.
Edit: Plus I've run in rooms where people where questioning room differences, and I always pop out the same times as normal.
Either way it can't hurt to always practice in race-spec rooms.
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- PURE_DrWatson
Same here tbph.
It's not that I distrust anyone, or their experiences, but I find it hard to believe that it would be different for different people. Since I and some others see no difference, it just makes more sense to me that it be a placebo effect.
Edit: Plus I've run in rooms where people where questioning room differences, and I always pop out the same times as normal.
Either way it can't hurt to always practice in race-spec rooms.
Problem is that it's really not something people should even consider themselves with. The internet is different every time to use it, that's why game tournaments are on LANs where the environment can be reliably controlled. It's like playing a sport indoors with climate control vs outdoors with variable weather. No two sunny days are exactly the same either.
So people that bother themselves with things like this are really doing themselves a dis-service. It's something to distract yourself with and IMO with fake racing, just like any sport, practice is best if it's done in variable conditions. You learn more from mistakes an variable situations (which is why I get the most benefit from our short practice races) than you do in a sterile controlled environment.
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- OwensRacing
Room open:
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Super Sic:
Lap 2 splits - 0:36.574 / 1:02.975 / 0:35.010 - total 2:14.559 Fast Lap Clean
Lap 3 splits - 0:36.546 / 1:03:014 / 0:35.129 - total 2:14.689
GTP_timeattack:
Lap 2 splits - 0:35.870 / 1:03.449 / 34.908 total - 2:14.227
Lap 3 splits - 0:35.820 / 1:03.231 / 34.680 total - 2:13.740 Fast Lap Clean
Lap 2 splits - 0:36.574 / 1:02.975 / 0:35.010 - total 2:14.559 Fast Lap Clean
Lap 3 splits - 0:36.546 / 1:03:014 / 0:35.129 - total 2:14.689
GTP_timeattack:
Lap 2 splits - 0:35.870 / 1:03.449 / 34.908 total - 2:14.227
Lap 3 splits - 0:35.820 / 1:03.231 / 34.680 total - 2:13.740 Fast Lap Clean
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TA, Redreevos, GV27, The minion, Supersic: done 👍
Gate19 and spreadsheet updated. Thanks 👍
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The Outlaw
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Thank you Owens & Litchi 
I Can't say I'm very pleased with my performance in qualy, but hopefully it will be just enough to get pole
Adam will probably show me how it's done, with an extra 60kg onboard 
Btw, for those who are competing (or Dennis) in the interGT500 battle tommorow - I heard we might need a different GT-R if we advance to the next round? Which one was it again?
I Can't say I'm very pleased with my performance in qualy, but hopefully it will be just enough to get pole
Adam will probably show me how it's done, with an extra 60kg onboard Btw, for those who are competing (or Dennis) in the interGT500 battle tommorow - I heard we might need a different GT-R if we advance to the next round? Which one was it again?
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- Neomone
Same here tbph.
It's not that I distrust anyone, or their experiences, but I find it hard to believe that it would be different for different people. Since I and some others see no difference, it just makes more sense to me that it be a placebo effect.
Edit: Plus I've run in rooms where people where questioning room differences, and I always pop out the same times as normal.
Either way it can't hurt to always practice in race-spec rooms.
I had a couple of incidents with lounges being different to lobbies way back when GT5 started. But it was OBVIOUS something was different. Tyres were staying dark blue for 5+ laps of Suzuka, etc. Everyone in the lounge immediately started piping up complaining that the lounge was broken. I'm pretty sure I remember that being fixed in one of the patches though.
If it's not an obvious difference, I'd call it placebo too. GT5 doesn't have track temperature variations. I find that GT5 feels different to me depending on what game I've been playing beforehand, and given that I'm still cycling through iRacing, F1 2011, Dirt 3 and modded Shift 2 it gives a pretty wide variation. Minor differences are probably perceptual.
I'm not saying that my experiences are complete fact, granted that part of it will be a placebo effect. What I am saying though is we don't know for sure unless PD tell us specifically. Like you both I have run in both lobbies for a large amount of time, and tested a lot. Sometimes there has be no difference between times, sometimes there has been big differences. Spec II definitely nulled the lobby differences we knew of, although I honestly think there are still minor differences. Unfortunately we aren't able to tell whether I am right or just plain bonkers imagining things. There's no point thinking about it because there is no way of coming to a suitable conclusion.
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- Neomone
Question about qualifying: can we choose not to qualify and start at the back?
Given that I'm likely to be mid-to-rear of the pack in D2 anyway, frankly I'd rather be right at the back going through Eau Rouge on the first lap than in the middle. Particularly after our last little excursion at Spa, which left me in serious doubt about some people's ability to restrain themselves from going three wide on the first lap.
The other option being I qualify and set a 3 minute lap, but that seems like a waste of the stewards and everyone's time.
Given that I'm likely to be mid-to-rear of the pack in D2 anyway, frankly I'd rather be right at the back going through Eau Rouge on the first lap than in the middle. Particularly after our last little excursion at Spa, which left me in serious doubt about some people's ability to restrain themselves from going three wide on the first lap.
The other option being I qualify and set a 3 minute lap, but that seems like a waste of the stewards and everyone's time.
