PURE | JGTS - Going on strong and adapting in the face of change!
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From the WIP Division system in the OP:
Division System::
This division system seems complicated at first, but really is a beautiful concoction of a thing that really is the fairest possible approach to allowing the closest racing possible in an online environment. The great thing about it is that this method rewards consistency, not absolute speed. Ok, now follow me here:
-Race 1- The divisions will intiially be set by a regular open qualification. This means every one will have a chance to make division 1 for the first race. Fastest 14 times make D1, and times 15-28 make D2.
Times from 29 down will form the waiting list.
So Race 1 will be raced as the result from the first qualifier.
-Race 2- The drivers who made D1 for stage 1, will automatically also be in D1 for race 2.
The grid for race 2 will be set similarly to the open qualifying week for race 1 but in this case, all drivers are locked into their divisions, meaning that even if you're faster than someone in D1 for race 2, you will stay in D2 and be ranked accordingly among the rest of last week's D2 drivers.
-After race 2- The total point scores from the previous two races for each driver will be combined. Bottom 4 scorers over the two races in D1 are demoted to D2 and top 4 scorers in D2 will be promoted to D1 for race 3.
-Race 3-4- Scores from races 3 and 4 will be combined in order to decide top scorers and lowest scorers for promotion/demotion going into race 5-Race 5-6Scores from races 5 and 6 will be combined in order to decide top scorers and lowest scorers for promotion/demotion going into race 7-Race 7-8Scores from races 7 and 8 will be combined in order to decide top scorers and lowest scorers for promotion/demotion going into race 9-Race 9
-Prior to race 10 the qualifier will be open as it was for race 1 to decide the grid for this final race.
DNS or non-point scoring DNF's WIP:
If a driver misses 1 of the 2 first races, for example, his one point scoring result will be taken then multiplied by 0.5 (yes, zero-point-five) to make a mock "virtual" value. This score will then be combined with the actual score in order to make a good estimated score based on his performance last race. The 0.5 multiplier acts as an allowance assuming the driver would have finished at or around the same position with a slight buffer given.
So if a D2 driver finished with 10 points in race 1 and then missed race 2 he will be ranked among the D2 drivers in consideration for promotion to D1 like so:
10 x 0.5 = 5 + 10 = 15. 15 will be the number we will use to compare against the other D2 drivers but this number will not be his actual point score. "15" is solely for ranking during promotion/demotion weeks. The driver in this example would only have 10 points posted to the points table. If the driver missed race 1 but not 2 then race 1 will act as the virtual score.
This number will be higher for those that actually attempted to join a race on raceday and wasn't able to continue due to technical problems. They must've at least been qualified and attempted to join a race room (race host of the room must confirm their attempt). If the driver did all they could to race but could not, they will get a DNS multiplier of 0.7.
Division System::
This division system seems complicated at first, but really is a beautiful concoction of a thing that really is the fairest possible approach to allowing the closest racing possible in an online environment. The great thing about it is that this method rewards consistency, not absolute speed. Ok, now follow me here:
-Race 1- The divisions will intiially be set by a regular open qualification. This means every one will have a chance to make division 1 for the first race. Fastest 14 times make D1, and times 15-28 make D2.
Times from 29 down will form the waiting list.
So Race 1 will be raced as the result from the first qualifier.
-Race 2- The drivers who made D1 for stage 1, will automatically also be in D1 for race 2.
The grid for race 2 will be set similarly to the open qualifying week for race 1 but in this case, all drivers are locked into their divisions, meaning that even if you're faster than someone in D1 for race 2, you will stay in D2 and be ranked accordingly among the rest of last week's D2 drivers.
-After race 2- The total point scores from the previous two races for each driver will be combined. Bottom 4 scorers over the two races in D1 are demoted to D2 and top 4 scorers in D2 will be promoted to D1 for race 3.
-Race 3-4- Scores from races 3 and 4 will be combined in order to decide top scorers and lowest scorers for promotion/demotion going into race 5-Race 5-6Scores from races 5 and 6 will be combined in order to decide top scorers and lowest scorers for promotion/demotion going into race 7-Race 7-8Scores from races 7 and 8 will be combined in order to decide top scorers and lowest scorers for promotion/demotion going into race 9-Race 9
-Prior to race 10 the qualifier will be open as it was for race 1 to decide the grid for this final race.
DNS or non-point scoring DNF's WIP:
If a driver misses 1 of the 2 first races, for example, his one point scoring result will be taken then multiplied by 0.5 (yes, zero-point-five) to make a mock "virtual" value. This score will then be combined with the actual score in order to make a good estimated score based on his performance last race. The 0.5 multiplier acts as an allowance assuming the driver would have finished at or around the same position with a slight buffer given.
So if a D2 driver finished with 10 points in race 1 and then missed race 2 he will be ranked among the D2 drivers in consideration for promotion to D1 like so:
10 x 0.5 = 5 + 10 = 15. 15 will be the number we will use to compare against the other D2 drivers but this number will not be his actual point score. "15" is solely for ranking during promotion/demotion weeks. The driver in this example would only have 10 points posted to the points table. If the driver missed race 1 but not 2 then race 1 will act as the virtual score.
This number will be higher for those that actually attempted to join a race on raceday and wasn't able to continue due to technical problems. They must've at least been qualified and attempted to join a race room (race host of the room must confirm their attempt). If the driver did all they could to race but could not, they will get a DNS multiplier of 0.7.
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Any rooms up?
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Litchi
Be right there!
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Lap 2- 0:36.851 / 0:26.604 / 0:28.234 / 0:26.860 total 1:58.549
Lap 3 - 0:36.736 / 0:26.506 / 0:27.787 / 0:26.794 total 1:57.823 Fast Lap Clean
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I'll be home around 3pm EST aka 6pm GMT
If you haven't gotten qualified by then Super Sic. Send me message or post here.
If you haven't gotten qualified by then Super Sic. Send me message or post here.
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Some one around to spectate my quali..? I have a lot of real life stuff to attend to tomorrow and Friday.. And I leave town Saturday.. Will be home again Sunday afternoon (GMT)..
As soon as possible please.. I'll just warm up with 3-5 laps, then I'll go..
Room: 1472-6681-3415-7083-2273
As soon as possible please.. I'll just warm up with 3-5 laps, then I'll go..
Room: 1472-6681-3415-7083-2273
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I just got home from work and am reading about qualifying... I didn't get a chance to tune the ok raybrig that I purchased special for this... Now I have. It sounds like it may be to late but I am ready right now just tell me where. If not, let me know as well . Thx
Ps I thought qualifying was for division placement... I will read as much of the thread as I can get through tonight and check the site too... I added verrrry last minute and this weekend was my bday so I have been a bit busy. Anyway I'll post back after I get through the documentation and rules for the league.
Ps I thought qualifying was for division placement... I will read as much of the thread as I can get through tonight and check the site too... I added verrrry last minute and this weekend was my bday so I have been a bit busy. Anyway I'll post back after I get through the documentation and rules for the league.
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Ok how do I register? The other site won't let me... Any advice? Like I said I've been busy so I'll read what I can later tonight. It's a bit confusing though. I'm sure that it makes perfect sense if u have been involved in the discussion from the start, but perhaps a landing page on the other site with the rules and race times would be a good idea. If you need help with any web stuff that's what I do in my non gt5 life for a living so if I have time I can help you out If you want. Now then, about the qualifying?
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I believe I am taking over the Raybrig spot. But nothing was finalized as it was all a bit last minute and the actual race was on my actual birthday... So needless to say it was hectic. That being said, If I wasn't serious about this, I would not have made time for it last weekend. For the record, I qualified in the Denso lexus I believe (it was a lexus for sure and not the one with the lower downforce option). Then, GTP_CSL asked if I could commit to the season shortly before the race on sunday (possibly very late Saturday night but you get the point). I responded shortly before the race in the affirmative and he said, "cool you have a factory car then, The Raybrig NSX." I then went and bought one as mine had the lvl3 engine tune on it and thus would not have passed homaligation but didnt even throw a tune on it (I say this because even though I held my own in the two heats, I wouldn't say that my pace was representative of what I am capable of). I don't know if this matters but there it is. I'm now home and out from behind the gnarly security/firewall at work, which was where I tried to register earlier at the other site. Hopefully, with less impediments and security in place, registering will work at the other site. I shall report back in a bit. Thanks for your help.
