Real Guns

[Zenith]

Well since you're in CA you'll have to live with a 10 round magazine limit unless you wanted to be in possession of illegal goods. One of 9mm advantages over a larger caliber such as .45 is lost when the magazine capacity is limited. .45 isn't as powerful as legends would say but it also isn't as hard to shoot as 9mm fanboys would have you believe. Personally I like 9mm, think .45 is really good, and dislike .40.

I would say that a light is a must. Either a flashlight you trust or a mounted light like this is like having a portable sun.

If you want a handgun, go try a friend's, handle some at a store, or even rent one at a range. Reed's Indoor Range is in Santa Clara. They've got a good selection.

Of course a semi-auto rifle is easier to shoot and has better terminal ballistics than a handgun, but are more expensive. For something that you probably won't ever have to use, it's up to you to decide what's worth it.

 

[Omnis]

Oh, right. Forgot about the CA insanity.

 

[Michael88]

Man, I was at the gun store today when the owner showed me a pristine K98k made in 41, all numbers matching, excellent barrel, swastikas and eagles everywhere, great laminated wood stock. As awesome as a K98k can possibly be.

He wants totally justified 750 bucks for it - and here I am totally broke.

 

[a6m5]

God, that sucks Michael. Such historical piece!

I gotta question for you guys. I bought another box of those 7.62x51mm target/range ammo today. Any idea which quality about these things that makes them target shooting ammo?

I mean, if I shoot a bad guy with it, they'll still drop, obviously. Do you guys think it has to do with the bullet, or the load?

 

[Zenith]

Being "target ammo" is dependent on the use. If you're trying put holes really, really close together on a piece of paper really, really far away, then consistency is important. Most target ammo is target ammo because it's cheap. "Real" use ammo tends to have a bullet designed to accomplish a certain task, whether that is expand in a deer or yaw in a human.

 

[Michael88]

Like Zenith said the main difference in target ammo is consistency in the components. Another difference is that target bullets are used, such as A-Max or Sierra BTHP's. Sierra BTHP's have a hollow point, that means there is less weight in the tip which results in a better stabilized bullet.

But match grade ammo doesn't automatically mean that you're going to shoot half MOA groups, if your rifle doesn't like the load accuracy will be underwhelming, no matter how good the ammo is supposed to be.
Of course target ammo only makes sense when you rifle is capable of good accuracy, you're using good sights or optics and a steady rest. Weakest link and all that...

 

[Nicksfix]

Man, I was at the gun store today when the owner showed me a pristine K98k made in 41, all numbers matching, excellent barrel, swastikas and eagles everywhere, great laminated wood stock. As awesome as a K98k can possibly be.

He wants totally justified 750 bucks for it - and here I am totally broke.

Go put it in lay-a-way ... make payments ... get that sucker. $750 sounds like a killer price for what you seen.

I want one of these K98's sooooo bad. Problem is, around here when you find one it's usually not a # matching unit, it's been hacked to death - it's been re-chambered - it's not in the greatest of shape (they are some what nice, but nothing mind blowing over the top). The problem here is the pricing that some of these guys want for them. Last month at a show, The best one I seen was $600 (buyer firm on price ... no wiggle room) and it needed some TLC. It was a shooter piece though, had some stock damage (several nicks and a couple of good dings), the stampings were not crisp, legible, but not great, had a clean barrel. Just ... hmmm, not overly catchy to justify a firm $600.

 

[a6m5]

This target shooting/shooting range ammo is that XM80C, which I think is like a military practice ammo. After reading Z-Man & Michael's posts, I'm of the impression that ammunition like this are made to be practical, also reasonably accurate, and no real clear intention on terminal ballistics? Am I close? Thanks a lot for input by the way. 👍

P.S. WWII rifle, still completely intact, in working order..... and a historically significant piece at the same time. Pretty cool.

 

[Zenith]

Like Zenith said the main difference in target ammo is consistency in the components. Another difference is that target bullets are used, such as A-Max or Sierra BTHP's. Sierra BTHP's have a hollow point, that means there is less weight in the tip which results in a better stabilized bullet.

But match grade ammo doesn't automatically mean that you're going to shoot half MOA groups, if your rifle doesn't like the load accuracy will be underwhelming, no matter how good the ammo is supposed to be.
Of course target ammo only makes sense when you rifle is capable of good accuracy, you're using good sights or optics and a steady rest. Weakest link and all that...

Spot on.

 

[Jedi2016]

FYI, there's a safety recall on Springfield XDS:

http://www.guns.com/2013/08/28/breaking-springfield-armory-issues-safety-recall-xds-pistols/

I just bought one of these about a month ago, I haven't even shot it yet.

 

[Crash]

XD-S also? This hasn't been a very good week for concealed carry pistols.

I wonder what specifically is making the double fire happen.

 

[Omnis]

What's a recall?

 

[Solid Lifters]

I hated this at the range. LOL

 

[Michael88]

Just loaded my first cartridge that makes more than 1000 meters or 3300 feet per second (3700 ft lbs). Thats a holy limit I just broke here.

 

[a6m5]

I don't now what that means, but I'll take your word for it. It does sound impressive. Congrats!

I hated this at the range. LOL

I've been hit by a couple. I'm sure I've dished out my fair share as well.

 

[Zenith]

And there's a Terminal Lance comic on it with NSFW language.

 

[Brett]

I had one land between the tongue of my shoe and leg. By the time I realized the case was there, it was too late and I was already burnt a bit. I may have had one land in one of my pockets on that same trip.

 

[a6m5]

I've yet to be burned by one(there was a hot one), but I have caught in a pocket before.

 

[Nicksfix]

Just loaded my first cartridge that makes more than 1000 meters or 3300 feet per second (3700 ft lbs). Thats a holy limit I just broke here.

What caliber are you loading ?

 

[Slash]

Anyone know where I can get plinking arrows for a crossbow pistol? I seem to have lost mine. They about 6/7 inches long give or take.

 

[a6m5]

I know nothing about crossbows.

What I watched on youtube:



Also followed by Part II & III(haven't seen Pt.III on Mossy). Nutnfancy raves about the shotgun I have, but we are, just like many 870 owners, envious of the Mossberg ergonomics. I have the short-barreled tactical, so it can only hold 7 shells, but that's OK. I wanted the shorter one.

Edit: He does not like my stock though.



Cheek-slap thing is definitely true. But it's also true that I can fire magnum rounds without feeling much kick in the shoulder.

 

[Slash]

I know nothing about crossbows.

What I watched on youtube:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqkeKwRmWFY">YouTube Link</a>

Also followed by Part II & III(haven't seen Pt.III on Mossy). Nutnfancy raves about the shotgun I have, but we are, just like many 870 owners, envious of the Mossberg ergonomics. I have the short-barreled tactical, so it can only hold 7 shells, but that's OK. I wanted the shorter one.

I don't really either other than I have a pistol version lol

 

[Nicksfix]

Update on the SKS project.
Started out as this:

And now we are at this. This is just a mere mock-up. No pins, dowels, bolts holding anything together. Just kinda hangin' together. A little more work to be done, but it is making some progress. Probably within a day or two, it should be totally completed. Apologies for the poor cell photos and lighting.
This one with the factory 10 rd. mag. (polished up)

30 rd. mag.

A little polishing work was done on the iron. Trigger is partially covered for a reason.

A decent side view

More to come in a day or so .....

 

[Kent]

And there's a Terminal Lance comic on it with NSFW language.

I've had that happen so many times I can't recall.
However, the worst of them was the sunglasses... That's right, I had a shell pop straight up and land in the gap between my eyebrow and my glasses, rolled down onto my cheek and stayed there pinned by the glasses against my cheek. Ever since then I shoot with a hat on to prevent the same thing (though I still get them in the collar and in the long sleeve shirt cuff when it's rolled up.

 

[Omnis]

I shoot with my lab glasses on. No way for that to happen.

 

[a6m5]

SKS is looking SWEET! 👍

I always have baseball cap + safety glasses when I go shooting.

 

[Nicksfix]

SKS is looking SWEET! 👍

I always have baseball cap + safety glasses when I go shooting.

Thanks 👍
I'm hoping to finish it up within the next day or so. I wanted to work on it today, today was just out of the question, too much going on.

Safety is always first, (personally) ball cap + shooting glasses + ear protection.
Both the gun clubs I belong to require eye protection. The one club is more adamant about safety orientation. They do require eye and ear protection. If you don't have any protection, your not allowed on the line --- no questions asked, get off the line ! If you are not shooting and you just want to spectate, eye and ear protection are also required --- no questions asked, no protection ... get off the line.

There is nothing wrong with safety, for yourself and any spectators.

 

[Badasp5.0]

And there's a Terminal Lance comic on it with NSFW language.

That's the worst I remember getting one stuck in between my back and IBA when I was doing MOUT training.

 

[Omnis]

I need one of these for CCW:

 

[Nicksfix]

^
What are you ... the Jolly Green Giant ? CCW that !?!?!?

By the way, here's my new gun rack. 💡