Real Guns

[Badasp5.0]

RIP Kalashnikov one day I will own a Ak74. I had a AKM for a little bit and it was fun.

 

[Slash]

New York probably banned it because it was scary, so I'll probably never own one.

 

[Badasp5.0]

New York probably banned it because it was scary, so I'll probably never own one.

Bummer the only bad side to living on the east coast.

 

[a6m5]

New York & California........ free country my ass. Rights & freedom until they don't agree with you. 👍

What do you mean? I guess I should take a picture of the one I get to use

In the discussion, we were talking about different style of stocks between military vs. traditional(wooden). I was saying that I really like the looks of the military style, but much prefer the handling of the wooden/traditional style stocks. I wasn't talking about the material as much as the actual contour of these stocks.

 

[Slash]

Bummer the only bad side to living on the east coast.

It used to be fine until Cuomo got in office. The entire state is up in arms.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It used to be fine until Cuomo got in office. The entire state is up in arms.

This a thousand times this, I don't even live there but there are certain political figures I follow due to my hate for them and just to throw it in the face of their constituents. Andrew Cuomo is one of those and I can't stand his brother on TV either.

In the discussion, we were talking about different style of stocks between military vs. traditional(wooden). I was saying that I really like the looks of the military style, but much prefer the handling of the wooden/traditional style stocks. I wasn't talking about the material as much as the actual contour of these stocks.

I get what you were saying and and I was agreeing that shapes for some of the tactical stocks aren't very functional sometimes.

I was comparing that to the one I've used with an actual swapped out stock which the AK has and it being a Dragunov stock.

 

[Slash]

I didn't think he was doing all that bad a job in comparison to others until the gun crap.

He can pass a gun control law in 20 minutes but it takes 3 damn days for a stop sign to get moved 5 feet. :censored:ing politicians.


And you can bet your ass I will stand there proudly next to my big ass "repeal the SAFE act" sign stuck up in my front yard for all to see.

 

[Omnis]

I'd say don't go higher than 500. Have you shot a PPQ before?

Nope. Only glocks. Same old story, you know.

 

[Slash]

Nope. Only glocks. Same old story, you know.

You are definitely going to have to post up some targets and video if you get it.

 

[David]

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[David]

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[a6m5]

That is so...... tight.

 

[Slash]

 

[Boz Mon]

Just saw this thread and thought I'd stop by. I bought my first gun on monday, and tomorrow (thursday) I can pick it up because the cooling off period is over. I bought a Smith and Wesson model 617 revolver that shoots .22lr. I cant wait to put some rounds through it!

Pics up later tomorrow when I pick it up!

 

[a6m5]

Just saw this thread and thought I'd stop by. I bought my first gun on monday, and tomorrow (thursday) I can pick it up because the cooling off period is over. I bought a Smith and Wesson model 617 revolver that shoots .22lr. I cant wait to put some rounds through it!

Pics up later tomorrow when I pick it up!

Congratulations! How I've never heard of this pistol, I have no idea. My favorite revolver pistol maker by far is Smith & Wesson, and in stainless. I did a quick google search, and this thing looks PERFECT.

Do they still make this new? What kind of pricing do they go for?

 

[Slash]

Congratulations! How I've never heard of this pistol, I have no idea. My favorite revolver pistol maker by far is Smith & Wesson, and in stainless. I did a quick google search, and this thing looks PERFECT.

Do they still make this new? What kind of pricing do they go for?

Yes make them new. They retail for $830, but you can probably get them cheaper if you looked around. It's EXACTLY the same gun as the .38 Special, but re-chambered to shoot .22LR.

You'd like my muzzleloaded pistol

 

[a6m5]

You'd like my muzzleloaded pistol

Post a pic!

 

[Slash]

I've got to find it first

 

[a6m5]

Hardly sound science, but another amusing experiment with a .22LR on youtube.

Expectedly, wound channels are pretty tiny, but I can't believe the rounds actually traveled that far & fully penetrated through denim & good size chunk of meat.

Link off that video:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com][/url]

Ask Foghorn: Is .22lr The Best for Self Defense?
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Wade writes:

Foghorn, my Dad is planning on getting his CCW license, and is already thinking about the handgun to use. But he says that he is going to get a .22lr or something similar, saying that ‘accuracy is more important than force’. He has hunted his entire life, and is an extremely good shot with both rifle and pistol, but I think he is too cocky when he says “all you need to do is shoot someone in the head and the party’s over”. How can I convince him that he may not be able to hit what he’s aiming at in a high-stress situation, and that he needs to look into a more versatile caliber?

You can find the writer's answer to this here.

What intrigued me were the bar graphs that accompanied his post:

I urge you to read the actual article, but I think this is the graph that he says that he chose to omit, as he didn't agree with it:

And finally, this graph:

Again, here's the actual article. Interesting read.

 

[Slash]

And they try to ban automatic weapons

 

[Michael88]

One reason why I use a shotgun loaded with the meanest nastiest slug available for home defense. One solid hit puts the aggressor on the ground.

 

[Slash]

Ain't that the truth.

 

[a6m5]

Now, what I would really like to know: a) Which 12-Gauge load is most popular for home defense. b) Actual statistic on the lethality of those loads.

Edit: My shotgun is not loaded, nor geared for home defense, but I do keep a few standard buckshot(9 BBs?) in a ziplok bag nearby(my Kimber is always loaded though).

 

[Slash]

Details, details!

 

[a6m5]

Details, details!

What, on the effectiveness of different 12-Gauge loads?

 

[Slash]

Towards your post (questions) and Michaels shotty lol. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

 

[a6m5]

Towards your post (questions) and Michaels shotty lol. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

I looked on google for a bit, but no-go. It's the deadliest weapon listed in the fatality chart, but the loads used are mystery to us for now. I'd guess birdshot & buckshot.

One solid hit puts the aggressor on the ground.

With a hole in him size of a fist!

 

[Slash]

Damn.

 

[Michael88]

I guess the most widely used load for a standard 12 gauge shotgun is 00 buckshot, 9 pellets, I'm quite sure its what they used in their statistic.

I still believe in the slug though, I only trust in stuff I regularly practice with so that automatically rules out buckshot because I don't shoot clay nor do I ''plink'' with buckshot. How does it pattern out of my gun at various ranges? I don't know.
However, I' often shoot slugs at 60yds from various stances (except prone, ouch) so I'm extremely confident with that kind of ammo and thats why I use it.

Thats what I'm currently using for HD, it does put fist sized holes into home intruders. I'm working on a (hopefully) better handloaded slug though, one that packs a little more punch. Punch is always good.

 

[a6m5]

Expanding Shotgun ammo. Game over.

I totally hear your argument for the use of slugs. For you, it makes 100% sense. Since I live in apartment, I think birdshot would be adequate, also safer for the neighbors..... then again, my tool for this job is a handgun for reasons discussed few months ago. It's a .45!