Real Guns

[Michael88]

I'd love to have a 300BLK shooting subsonic 240 grainers with a suppressor on it. That would be sweet.

I just bought a pair of butler creek flip caps for my 3-10x40 Weaver.

I also bought RWS 100 Olympic match ammo, its supposed to be one of the best 22lr loads there is. 18 bucks 50 rounds. I hope they're as accurate as I hope.

 

[a6m5]

18 bucks 50 rounds.

...................Let's hope that they are right.



I should get a pair of those flip up caps. My Redfield came strapped with bungee, and I'm not too crazy about them.

P.S. Placed an backorder for new Magpul AR magazines. They used to be 20-round capacity(.308). New one is 25-rounds, also has windows that shows off brass, I mean you'll be able to tell how many rounds are left in the mag.

Edit: @Michael88 - I totally forgot: I've mentioned this Glock rep who comes into work(another department, unfortunately) before, and today, supposedly, he brought in a box of plastic ammo(just the bullet, of course). I'm told that the rep was given cases of these things & was asked to test them. He gave a box to guy at my work, asking for his feedback.

I'm still hopeful that we find a practical alternative to lead soon.

 

[Michael88]

The problem with non lead bullets is the weight, even if the material is hard yet soft enough to withstand all the forces that act upon a projectile when firing, if its too light its like throwing a ping-pong ball as hard as you can in heavy winds. As far as I know plastic bullets along with wooden ones are used for practice at VERY close ranges because they completely lack mass and thus energy.Needless to say they don't cycle the action and its like shooting an air gun.

There is no alternative to lead. Brass can be used but its super expensive, lacks density and its hard on the barrels. Tungsten can be used, its even more dense than lead but its WAY more expensive than lead and even brass.

But, according to this channel you can shoot a lot of silly non-lead stuff through your gun and still have fun.

I should get a pair of those flip up caps. My Redfield came strapped with bungee, and I'm not too crazy about them.

They're super useful, you can even glue your scope dope into the eyepiece cover, but they'ere expensive for what they are.

 

[a6m5]

How awesome is that video. Excellent slow motion footage, too. 👍

On the plastic ammo, I did figure that it was designed for short range, intended to shoot out of handguns. I didn't think about cycling though. Disappointing to hear about that. As for alternative to lead, I'm getting similar feedback from people in real life. Until this call for lead ban came up, I never realized how unique this metal really is.

 

[Michael88]

Check out the wax slugs vs. safe vid, it has some awesome slomo footage. (The whole channel is ace)

I didn't think about cycling though. Disappointing to hear about that. As for alternative to lead, I'm getting similar feedback from people in real life. Until this call for lead ban came up, I never realized how unique this metal really is.

Yeah, and the ''its bad for the environment argument'' perfectly reflects how the organization that is the EU thinks about the citizen. They think we're so dumb that they don't even try coming up with arguments that make at least some sense. That lead bean isn't just an atrocity against human rights, it insults the intelligence of those affected as well.

Also they've released a new paper about drastically increasing future gun control stating that guns in the hands of ''civilians'' causes gun crime, according to a study from a University in NY. They also mentioned Finland has the most guns per head ratio in Europe which is kind of funny because when have you ever heard about anything serious happening there with legal guns involved, compared to gun free zones like England? That just says it all.

You know what the EU feels like? Like a bunch of 10 year olds given immense power over people, finances and laws.
I blame World War 1, ever since this event Europe has been locked in a never ending struggle, with criminals in suits taking advantage of the struggle.

But you just have to take a quick look into the history books to know what inflation paired with ever increasing social inequality and a government gone out of control breeds. Exactly that situation has always been the prelude to something much worse. I give it 6 maybe 10 more years until it all breaks apart.

 

[Eric.]

I'm just gonna say this is all your fault.

 

[a6m5]

That looks damn good. 👍 Brett's Eotech? They do clear the front sight, right?

I have the vertical front grip & I like them OK. How do you like yours, @Eric. ?

But you just have to take a quick look into the history books to know what inflation paired with ever increasing social inequality and a government gone out of control breeds. Exactly that situation has always been the prelude to something much worse. I give it 6 maybe 10 more years until it all breaks apart.

I get where you are coming from. When I was young, I couldn't understand how nations could split apart. I don't know if it's come with the (my)age, or the things are actually escalating, but more & more I notice the divide between groups & people.

 

[Eric.]

Nah not Brett's. I preferred to get the two dot reticle, if I was going to spend that kind of money on an optic I'd rather get the one I really wanted. Found this one barely used for the same money. Not sure what you mean by clearing the front sight? Its a lower 1/3 cowitness. Aiming through the iron sights, you'll be looking through the lower part of the Eotech.

I've had the AFG since this build started. I'm not overly fond of it. I think a handstop would be just as good for most cases, but its okay and probably staying. I like it over vertical grips, which came about when Sopmod M4 rails were covered with accessories and nowhere to place your hand.

 

[a6m5]

Sorry, I meant to ask if the front sight got in the way at all while looking thru the red dot.

I'm still not sure what my ideal solution for the forward grip is, as I've done almost all of my shooting at the range(on the table). I wish I could do some plinking with it.

 

[Eric.]

Oh, yeah you see the front sight post but its never near the reticle except when aiming through the sights. I can kinda see why people like Aimpoints more than the Eotech, the reticle isn't that nice crisp ring you expect to see. But that's okay. The ring is for fast target acquisition anyway. 1moa dots are worth it.

 

[Brett]

That looks damn good. 👍 Brett's Eotech?

No.

Oh, yeah you see the front sight post but its never near the reticle except when aiming through the sights. I can kinda see why people like Aimpoints more than the Eotech, the reticle isn't that nice crisp ring you expect to see. But that's okay. The ring is for fast target acquisition anyway. 1moa dots are worth it.

One of the reasons I went to an Aimpoint is because of my awful eyesight and astigmatism. My eyes focus on the single dot faster than a ring and dot.

 

[Blood Eagle]

EoTechs get a little fuzzy if you have bad eyes and the only thing I have found to make it better is turn the brightness down but when it's sunny that kind of sucks. At night, you can turn it down way low and manage. I would hate to see the front sight post through a nice optic like an EoTech. For that particular reason, I'm going with a railed gas block on my AR with flip up front and rear backup sights.

 

[Eric.]

I don't see how its a problem that you can see the post...You're not supposed to be looking there. I'd put a folding sight on a rail before on a gas block but that's just me.

 

[a6m5]

I have zero experience with red dot, and while I don't foresee any "problem" with front sight being in the picture, but I can see it being a slight distraction for some. @Eric. & @Brett : Your red dot probably take that CR123?

 

[Brett]

I have zero experience with red dot, and while I don't foresee any "problem" with front sight being in the picture, but I can see it being a slight distraction for some. @Eric. & @Brett : Your red dot probably take that CR123?

Yes. The EOTech XPS and EXPS lines take CR123 batteries. My Aimpoint takes a 2L76 or DL1/3N. I also picked up a Bushnell TRS-25 to put on my Ruger 10/22 Takedown and I have no clue what kind of battery it takes.

EDIT: Googled it up and the Bushnell takes a CR2032.

 

[Eric.]

Just to give an idea of sight picture.

 

[a6m5]

@Eric. - Thanks for the pics. Very informative. 👍

I also picked up a Bushnell TRS-25 to put on my Ruger 10/22 Takedown and I have no clue what kind of battery it takes.

I just googled it. Nice little red dot! 👍

 

[Zenith]

Nah not Brett's. I preferred to get the two dot reticle, if I was going to spend that kind of money on an optic I'd rather get the one I really wanted. Found this one barely used for the same money. Not sure what you mean by clearing the front sight? Its a lower 1/3 cowitness. Aiming through the iron sights, you'll be looking through the lower part of the Eotech.

I've had the AFG since this build started. I'm not overly fond of it. I think a handstop would be just as good for most cases, but its okay and probably staying. I like it over vertical grips, which came about when Sopmod M4 rails were covered with accessories and nowhere to place your hand.

Yesss. Great choice, I've been loving mine. It's such a clear sight that I can dink the squirrel targets at 100 yards all day.

Nice 300BLK too. Are you planning on SBRing it?

On 300BLK, I've been interested in this recently.

Same engineer who was a key part of the AAC Honey Badger. This one has a folding stock and should be able to switch between 300BLK and 5.56. I'd love to own one.

 

[Eric.]

I'd rather not SBR it because I cross over into Kentucky a lot to shoot with friends (I live in Illinois). Can't take an SBR across state lines.

@Brett I skipped over the TRS25 comment, I hear those are pretty good. Its just the right size for what I'd like on my 300BLK pistol but I'm leaning towards a Vortex Sparc II.

Since I have basically no time to shoot right now I'm holding off getting sights for the pistol. I have a front Magpul MBUS that came as a set, the rear is on my primary AR (the now Eotech equipped one). I'm going to get Magpul's new MBUS Pro LR range adjustable sight for that gun and swap the polymer set over to the pistol (which I eventually want a Pro set on just for sleekness...). I have a complete lower assembled also...just going to be a plain ol M4 looking gun with standard furniture, possibly a drop in quad rail. At least that's the plan for the time being...

I'm amazed that folding stocks are considered okay on rifles...particularly those that can fire folded (AKs, the above gun, etc..) where its basically a pistol by definition...Or maybe just a "firearm" if its 26"+.

Edit: Hey, whaddaya know...the MBUS Pro LR is in stock now. May have to order that tomorrow.

 

[Brett]

@Brett I skipped over the TRS25 comment, I hear those are pretty good. Its just the right size for what I'd like on my 300BLK pistol but I'm leaning towards a Vortex Sparc II.

It seems to be a pretty good quality for such an inexpensive sight.

I picked it up from Palmetto State Armory during their Christmas sale. It was a tough deal to pass up for $45. For now, I plan on putting it on my Ruger 10/22 Takedown.

 

[Michael88]

I'm going to order a laminate thumbhole stock from Boyds for my 452, I simply love their ''Royal Jacaranda'' laminate. Royal indeed.

 

[a6m5]

I'd rather not SBR it because I cross over into Kentucky a lot to shoot with friends (I live in Illinois). Can't take an SBR across state lines.

I did not know that. I was under the impression that it already was a SBR. Excuse me for being such a noob, but which feature is keeping your .300 AR from becoming classified as a SBR?

$45.

Sold! You sell me this item, yes? 45 American?

I'm going to order a laminate thumbhole stock from Boyds for my 452, I simply love their ''Royal Jacaranda'' laminate. Royal indeed.

Not for me, but man, that thing is too gorgeous to be a rifle stock!

 

[Zenith]

I did not know that. I was under the impression that it already was a SBR. Excuse me for being such a noob, but which feature is keeping your .300 AR from becoming classified as a SBR?

The lack of a stock.

 

[Eric.]

I did not know that. I was under the impression that it already was a SBR. Excuse me for being such a noob, but which feature is keeping your .300 AR from becoming classified as a SBR?

It doesn't have a stock, that's a Thordsen buffer tube cover kit made for mounting the CAA saddle to. Legally it is only a cheek weld and cannot be put to your shoulder.

@Michael88 That stock is effing gorgeous.

 

[Michael88]

Not for me, but man, that thing is too gorgeous to be a rifle stock!

@Michael88 That stock is effing gorgeous.

Thanks guys. I particularly like it because the color combination reminds me of my favorite landscape, the sub-arctic tundra in fall. Reddish and yellow shrubs, gray earth and weathered branches.

 

[a6m5]

The lack of a stock.

It doesn't have a stock, that's a Thordsen buffer tube cover kit made for mounting the CAA saddle to. Legally it is only a cheek weld and cannot be put to your shoulder.

Ah. Thank you guys. 👍

Thanks guys. I particularly like it because the color combination reminds me of my favorite landscape, the sub-arctic tundra in fall. Reddish and yellow shrubs, gray earth and weathered branches.

It sure does. 👍 Frigging breathtaking colors.

 

[Eric.]

The Thordsen kit is kinda on the same shaky ground as the sig brace, but the sig brace's design is for use as a brace...whereas a cheek weld is still being used as a cheek weld....sometimes it touches your shoulder but as long as you intended to just get a cheek weld...

 

[Michael88]

Man, today I shot my 22lr at 110 yds and I sucked. All my groups were around 1.2-1.4'', I was not able to shoot a single group of under one inch, no matter the ammo. What kind of groups are you guys getting at 100 with your 22lr?

 

[David]

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[a6m5]

The Thordsen kit is kinda on the same shaky ground as the sig brace, but the sig brace's design is for use as a brace...whereas a cheek weld is still being used as a cheek weld....sometimes it touches your shoulder but as long as you intended to just get a cheek weld...

So AR Pistols & SBRs are same things, right? They are cool, but at the shooting range I frequent, I don't think they are even allowed.

Man, today I shot my 22lr at 110 yds and I sucked. All my groups were around 1.2-1.4'', I was not able to shoot a single group of under one inch, no matter the ammo. What kind of groups are you guys getting at 100 with your 22lr?

I don't think I've ever really set up a paper target at that range for my 22's.

Longest I've shot is 50 yards(rimfire range). I was just sighting the scope in, and I was all over the frigging place. At 110 yards, I'd be lucky to keep it inside 1.2~1.4 meters. With MUCH practice, I feel like I'd be happy to keep the group smaller than a foot. At 100 yards or more, yeah, that sounds about right.