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The FNP-9 or FNX-9 are my first choice if I go polymer. I have no issues with Glock or S&W, I just want a hammer fired SA/DA pistol and FN makes quality guns that don't cost a ton. And yea, I know there's about 10 versions of the 226/229 but the majority are SA/DA. I'm sure you could find a DAO version of just about every hammer fired pistol.
 
The FN is a great pistol especially as an alternative to the more common glocks, sigs, and xd models.
Personally though...
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Bought one last year...
Tac ops model, 20 round mags, beaver tail frame, short reset trigger, sweet night sights (tru-glo up front, trijicon in back), all in all probably the best 9mm Ive shot.
Great fun at the range.
 
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I really want one of these when I'm older, I wanted one ever since I saw my Grampa's when I was 7 (he took it away from me .5 seconds after I touched it)
S&Ws are beautiful, aren't they? One of my coworker bought one few months back, I think it might be this one. He got it for I think just under $700 or something, a .357 Magnum.

I was pretty much like this: :drool:

I hate him, because he still hadn't even shot it, just sold it for $400 to my other coworker. :lol:

You'd think it's a great deal, and I don't know how, but it was in damn nasty condition. The one who bought it said he cleaned it up real good, and it's all good now.

I know the guy who bought it would have let me gotten it, had I wanted to buy it(he already has GP100. similar pistol). But I just couldn't justify spending $400 I could apply toward a rifle I will purchase in the near future.

.357 Mag's nice though. I'm of the impression that it is arguably the best handgun round, and I hear from the hunters that Northern hunters use them as sidearm against bear attacks. Still, I think my next handgun will be a .45ACP. I just like the semi-automatics way too much. Really, can't go wrong either way though!
 
I see a few people saying they want to get a new handgun but can't decide on what they want. My advice is to find a gun range/shop. They usually have lots of rentals and that way you can try it out before you drop the cash on something. How does it feel in your hand? How do you like the trigger and does it have a dependable reputation? A gun may look good on a webpage but if it feels like a bowling ball in your hands then its not going to do you much good.

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.357 Mag's nice though. I'm of the impression that it is arguably the best handgun round, and I hear from the hunters that Northern hunters use them as sidearm against bear attacks. Still, I think my next handgun will be a .45ACP. I just like the semi-automatics way too much. Really, can't go wrong either way though!
Oh the old "best caliber" argument. Ask 20 people and you'll get 20 different answers. The right answer is if you can manage the recoil, if you're happy with the stopping power, what you plan on using it for and availability and pricing. My daily carry is a. 40 and I feel 100% confident with it.
 
Oh the old "best caliber" argument. Ask 20 people and you'll get 20 different answers. The right answer is if you can manage the recoil, if you're happy with the stopping power, what you plan on using it for and availability and pricing. My daily carry is a. 40 and I feel 100% confident with it.
No, I don't mean it in that way. I shoot a 9mm, if that tells you anything.

I do apologize for the confusion, but what I meant by best, was the most lethal bullet. I'm no expert, obviously, but I know enough that there are very few mainstream handgun calibers, and even fewer considered powerful, like the .357 Mag, 10mm, .45ACP, etc.

I love 9mm, and it is my go-to weapon, but I know it has its' drawbacks. Lacks power in comparison to those bigboy bullets, it is also smaller. While it has plenty of pro's that makes them great rounds IMO, and just about perfect shot for me, it would not enter most discussion when talking along the lines of most powerful handgun ammo.
 
The biggest plus 9mm has for it is price. It's the main reason I want my next pistol in 9mm. I love .45ACP, and in the right gun it's beautiful to shoot, but it's expensive. With 9mm you can practice more often and get more familiar with the weapon without feeling like you're wasting money with every round you fire. Plus, there's the capacity because it's a smaller round. If you can't have the stopping power, having the sheer number is always a good second option.
 
Yeah, not quite .22LR, but you are not calculating cost while practice shooting either. I can actually afford to stock up on 9mm. :lol:
 
Well, damn it. I dropped my Glock for the first time today while cleaning.

Hours later, while I was lubing it, I noticed that rear sight is off-centered. From what I just read online, it is normal for the rear sight of Glock to be off center. I just never noticed my rear sight being crooked before. :crazy:
 
Why on earth would it be off-center? Wouldn't that, I don't know.. throw your aim off!?!? I've got two pistols, and the sights are dead center on both of them.
 
Why on earth would it be off-center? Wouldn't that, I don't know.. throw your aim off!?!? I've got two pistols, and the sights are dead center on both of them.
I don't know man, but I never noticed it before, so I've come to conclusion that mine used to be properly centered.

After my failed attempt trying to hammer the thing back in place, using a hammer & big flathead like a chisel(saw it on youtube), I figured I'll just take it in to the cheapest gunsmith. I don't have the rear sight tool. Last night, as a last ditch effort, I decided to give the rubber mallet a try, and it worked like it was meant for the job. :D:tup:

I wouldn't recommend using a mallet if you were working on a night sight or something like that, but for standard piece-of-plastic rear sight, it worked great. At least on a Glock!
 
I've never heard of a rear sight being that off. Are you positive that the drop did that and that it wasn't calibrated that way from the factory on purpose?

I'd at least shoot the thing first to see if the sights are off. If you're still accurate, I wouldn't mess with it. However you went all Harbor Freight and used everything as a hammer, so it'll have to be looked at by a pro anyway.

Since you're bringing it in, have you thought about new sights? Ghost rings look very bad ass...I'm not a huge fan of the target style sights. I have 1 HK with those and it's very meh.
 
I've never heard of a rear sight being that off. Are you positive that the drop did that and that it wasn't calibrated that way from the factory on purpose?

I'd at least shoot the thing first to see if the sights are off. If you're still accurate, I wouldn't mess with it. However you went all Harbor Freight and used everything as a hammer, so it'll have to be looked at by a pro anyway.

Since you're bringing it in, have you thought about new sights? Ghost rings look very bad ass...I'm not a huge fan of the target style sights. I have 1 HK with those and it's very meh.
I thought about the possibility of the crooked sights being the factory setting, but since I never noticed this before, I'm pretty sure the drop caused it. This Glock being my first handgun, I've studied it(ie drooled on it) a million times before. :P And also, there was this tiny gouge mark on it(it's a plastic sight.), which most likely came from hitting the floor.

Using the hammer, I of course had the slide off, and was very careful, almost gentle with it. I'm confident it didn't cause any extra wear or damage on the slide. And using the rubber mallet, it just worked so well, and hit only the plastic rear sight, sliding it back in its' place. Again, I'm 100% sure the gun's OK.

After going shooting, my gun's super clean again, rear sight back in the place. I'm a happy camper. :)
 
I still haven't sent in my license application yet. Talk about procrastination and forgetfulness. I'll get on it soon... lol

I've been watching videos about the SKS recently. Seems like if you avoid the norinco garbage they can be pretty good guns?
 
I think I'll just stick with a 1911 Springfield...I like the stopping power of a .45, but I could settle for XD I just don't like the feel of it so I'd probably go for a Glock 22 since .40 has good stopping power as well.
 
I wish the laws up here weren't so stringent. If you were to actually use a handgun for personal defence, you'd probably end up going to jail. And CCW's? Forget it.

I'd like to own handguns for sport shooting and home defense eventually, but it's not even worth it. You may as well just shoot trap and .22LR
 
I wish the laws up here weren't so stringent. If you were to actually use a handgun for personal defence, you'd probably end up going to jail. And CCW's? Forget it.

I'd like to own handguns for sport shooting and home defense eventually, but it's not even worth it. You may as well just shoot trap and .22LR

Move to America. You are close enough, already.
 
That sucks, but if you can at least have a .22LR, you are doing better than our British friends on here. Of course, personally, I'd like at least a 9mm.
I still haven't sent in my license application yet. Talk about procrastination and forgetfulness. I'll get on it soon... lol

I've been watching videos about the SKS recently. Seems like if you avoid the norinco garbage they can be pretty good guns?

SKS are fun, but they got that magazine clip thing I don't care for. When I have the funds, I will get a rifle for sure, but it will be a AK47 or Bushmaster AR15 most likely. I've seen many Romanian AK's go for right around $400, and AR15 I want are $1,000. AR's probably cheaper in the long run, as far as the ammunition go. But on the other hand, I think I want a rifle with some accuracy. If you buy me R700, I buy an assault rifle, I think I'd be in good shape. :P

Get the license( :rolleyes: at Illinois), get the gun. Way I see it, guns & ammo will only go up in price, gun laws will only get stricter. Yeah, I'm a little paranoid. :D
 
Have you seen the SKS with a Tapco stock and removable 20 round magazine? It looks the business.

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I gotta buddy with a similar stock, and I do think it looks nice, converting it to accept standard style magazine at the same time. I'm anal about reliability when it comes to guns, so I do wonder how reliably this setup feed & fire, but I am not at all familiar with them.

If I was considering SKS, I'd step up just a bit more for AK, but that's just me. On top of legit considerations like reliability, I also have plenty of B.S. preference like style, name, brand image. :lol:
 
You don't have to do the stock upgrade to make it accept an external mag. The Tapco mag also works with the wood stock. I sorta like wood stocks more and more the more I look at them.

I have also seen them with AK mags but I don't like how that looks.
 
Move to America. You are close enough, already.

I'm 16 and in high school, but after I graduate (University), I'm very strongly considering a move to the United States.

That sucks, but if you can at least have a .22LR, you are doing better than our British friends on here. Of course, personally, I'd like at least a 9mm.

When I said .22LR I was talking about an actual rifle, and using that for sport shooting rather than handguns. Here, we have three categories of guns, Non restricted (Shotguns, long rifles, "regular" guns), Restricted (Handguns, shorter shotguns, certain rifles), and Prohibited firearms (Fully automatic guns, and some guns that are banned just because they look scary (like the AK-47)).

To get handguns, you have to take the restricted firearms course, and then there's a zillion restrictions. Locked case forever, you have to notify the police every time you transport it (only allowed to take it to a gun show, shooting range, or gun shop for repairs). And if you deviate from the designated route you have to take to where ever it is you're going with the handgun, you can be in serious 🤬.

I could theoretically be on my way to a gun range 20 minutes from my house, and grab a coffee at Tim Hortons one street out of the way, and face serious legal charges. But I'd be allowed to take the gun to a shop a 4 hour drive away if I wanted. You're allowed to have handguns, but it's just not worth the hassle. And ammunition is insane.
 
I'm 16 and in high school, but after I graduate (University), I'm very strongly considering a move to the United States.



When I said .22LR I was talking about an actual rifle, and using that for sport shooting rather than handguns. Here, we have three categories of guns, Non restricted (Shotguns, long rifles, "regular" guns), Restricted (Handguns, shorter shotguns, certain rifles), and Prohibited firearms (Fully automatic guns, and some guns that are banned just because they look scary (like the AK-47)).

To get handguns, you have to take the restricted firearms course, and then there's a zillion restrictions. Locked case forever, you have to notify the police every time you transport it (only allowed to take it to a gun show, shooting range, or gun shop for repairs). And if you deviate from the designated route you have to take to where ever it is you're going with the handgun, you can be in serious 🤬.

I could theoretically be on my way to a gun range 20 minutes from my house, and grab a coffee at Tim Hortons one street out of the way, and face serious legal charges. But I'd be allowed to take the gun to a shop a 4 hour drive away if I wanted. You're allowed to have handguns, but it's just not worth the hassle. And ammunition is insane.

Well, the current US admin isn't too concerned with gun traffic over the US borders, at least Mexico, so you're more than welcome to smuggle anything you want over the border.

Wear a sombrero and introduce yourself as Nacho (short for Ignacio) and you'll be allowed to do whatever it is you please. Do a google search for "gunwalker" and you'll see how asinine the US gun laws can be.

With that, you'd probably want to be a Mexican citizen as they're the only people the ATF really want to have access to the good stuff.

Depending where you live in the US, gun laws can be even more restrictive that your laws in Canada. Some townships & cities have outright bans on ownership or registration rules so prohibitive & onerous, you'll eventually break a law or two and have your guns seized anyway. This only stops lawful citizens from owning guns. Gang members, random thugs, and NBA players will always have gun on them, or in their lockers, regardless of the law.

Stupid if you ask me.
 
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Well, the current US admin isn't too concerned with gun traffic over the US borders, at least Mexico, so you're more than welcome to smuggle anything you want over the border.

Wear a sombrero and introduce yourself as Nacho (short for Ignacio) and you'll be allowed to do whatever it is you please. Do a google search for "gunwalker" and you'll see how asinine the US gun laws can be.

With that, you'd probably want to be a Mexican citizen as they're the only people the ATF really want to have access to the good stuff.

Depending where you live in the US, gun laws can be even more restrictive that your laws in Canada. Some townships & cities have outright bans on ownership or registration rules so prohibitive & onerous, you'll eventually break a law or two and have your guns seized anyway. This only stops lawful citizens from owning guns. Gang members, random thugs, and NBA players will always have gun on them, or in their lockers, regardless of the law.

Stupid if you ask me.

Well said :tup
Reminds me of a great Thomas Jefferson quote: "The great thing about the 2nd Amendment is that you only need it if they try to take it away."
Brother Superior you need to move over to Arizona where about the only restrictions we have is the treasonous National Firearms Act of 1934.
 
Arizona is where conceal carry is permitted without permit, right? More I think about it, more exciting & scary that sounds. :D While I'd trust over 90% of adults I know with guns, I'm sure we all know, or have had encounter(s) with people we'd be terrified to know that they might be carrying guns with them around town. I guess those people would eventually have record, prohibited from firearms anyway, but you guys see where I'm coming from.

I just don't want the hassle of getting a conceal carry permit, but sometime do think it would be cool(not great attitude or reason to carry, agreed lol) to be able to carry a handgun with me.
When I said .22LR I was talking about an actual rifle, and using that for sport shooting rather than handguns. Here, we have three categories of guns, Non restricted (Shotguns, long rifles, "regular" guns), Restricted (Handguns, shorter shotguns, certain rifles), and Prohibited firearms (Fully automatic guns, and some guns that are banned just because they look scary (like the AK-47)).

To get handguns, you have to take the restricted firearms course, and then there's a zillion restrictions. Locked case forever, you have to notify the police every time you transport it (only allowed to take it to a gun show, shooting range, or gun shop for repairs). And if you deviate from the designated route you have to take to where ever it is you're going with the handgun, you can be in serious 🤬.

I could theoretically be on my way to a gun range 20 minutes from my house, and grab a coffee at Tim Hortons one street out of the way, and face serious legal charges. But I'd be allowed to take the gun to a shop a 4 hour drive away if I wanted. You're allowed to have handguns, but it's just not worth the hassle. And ammunition is insane.
Yeah, I figured you were talking about rifles, but I mentioned 9mm because it was a small round, and I was familiar with them. I apologize as that did make it confusing.

Your comment regarding how it's not worth the hassle, I think it kinda hit it on the nail about how government take your guns away. When the liberal tries to take firearms away from the American people, while many envision the government forcibly confiscating guns away, realistically, I think they will keep on stacking up restrictions after restrictions on the firearm ownership until people don't even want to deal with the hassle of ownership anymore. I see signs of this in post from Solid Lifters about California, from Time Attack about Chicago or Illinois, about Australia from Jay.

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I'm also a fan of Arizona in regards to stance on illegal immigration taken by their Governor. I believe in allowing immigrant workers, especially from south of the border, but it should be done legally. I'm not a expert or scholar on the subject, but I'd imagine the system is broken, or impractical. I think immigration should be fixed, U.S. should welcome migrant workers from Mexico with open arms, but they should only come in through the front door, not jumping over the fence through the backyard. And illegal babies born on U.S. soil are granted U.S. citizenship. Yeah, hell no.
 
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The trouble with that is making sure the migrant workers all leave when the time comes. The thing about anchor babies, wasn't that law created a long time ago way back when most people coming here were from Europe? That law has been out dated for YEARS.
 
Arizona is where conceal carry is permitted without permit, right? More I think about it, more exciting & scary that sounds. :D While I'd trust over 90% of adults I know with guns, I'm sure we all know, or have had encounter(s) with people we'd be terrified to know that they might be carrying guns with them around town. I guess those people would eventually have record, prohibited from firearms anyway, but you guys see where I'm coming from.
You are correct, no permit is required to conceal carry here in Arizona. A bad guy isn't going to care if it's legal or not to conceal carry, so why should the citizens who's intent is only to protect themselves be put at such a disadvantage.

I just don't want the hassle of getting a conceal carry permit, but sometime do think it would be cool(not great attitude or reason to carry, agreed lol) to be able to carry a handgun with me.
I look at mine like a seatbelt. I'll probably never need it but I will be glad if I ever have to use it.

I'm also a fan of Arizona in regards to stance on illegal immigration taken by their Governor. I believe in allowing immigrant workers, especially from south of the border, but it should be done legally. I'm not a expert or scholar on the subject, but I'd imagine the system is broken, or impractical. I think immigration should be fixed, U.S. should welcome migrant workers from Mexico with open arms, but they should only come in through the front door, not jumping over the fence through the backyard. And illegal babies born on U.S. soil are granted U.S. citizenship. Yeah, hell no.
Thanks for you support, not many people realize how big a problem it is down here. Without getting to off topic watch the show "Border Wars" on the National Geographic channel, it will show you a little bit of what we're dealing with.
 
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