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First time? I noticed you ejected a live round (no worries).
I'm not sure if your friend told you this, but keep your hands higher on the gun. The gun wants to flip upwards on recoil, try to put as much of your palms on the gun as hand and as grippy as they go.
Here..
Don't take it personally. Almost everyone starts out shooting like crap, especially if the only experience they have with firearms is what they see in movies.
Actually, no need to follow all that. Just watch the video below to learn proper shooting technique.
I learned so much!!! 
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- a6m5zero
"I'm so much better than you at soccer". đź‘Ť
According to Nutnfancy on youtube, SR22 is a Ruger knocking off Walther P22:
You can definitely see the resemblance. Personally, I love the look of Walther much better. They are both priced around, or just a tad over $300. I went with the Ruger because of more reliable firing. I guess SR22 is not very picky on what type of ammo you feed it. That's big with me. đź‘Ť It does suck I missed another opportunity to own a Walther.
đź‘ŤWow, I didn't know they made handguns. đź‘Ť
According to Nutnfancy on youtube, SR22 is a Ruger knocking off Walther P22:
You can definitely see the resemblance. Personally, I love the look of Walther much better. They are both priced around, or just a tad over $300. I went with the Ruger because of more reliable firing. I guess SR22 is not very picky on what type of ammo you feed it. That's big with me. đź‘Ť It does suck I missed another opportunity to own a Walther.
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Looks like Ralphie upgraded this Christmas...
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Yeah, they don't just produce hunting + precision rifles and the Steyr AUG's, Steyr also started to produce handguns a while back (A decade ago?), handguns which are evidently completely flying under the radar.
Glock is totally dominating the market here, nobody buys a Steyr L1 if you can have a Glock for the same money with countless tuning possibilities and millions of decently priced aftermarket parts available.
Though the grip of the Steyr looks really comfortable, the bore axis is ultra-low and Steyr is known to make quality products.
Speaking of Steyr, they have jumped onto the AR Bandwagon and are currently completing the design of a Piston AR!
Great news for people who love AR style rifle with better reliability and can afford top notch quality, not so great news for those who loved the good old Steyr AUG and wanted an updated version of it instead of a new gun. (v.A3)
I guess thats the end of the AUG.
Why do bullpups always get the short end of the stick? They're awesome!
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Probably a "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" tactic? It's not just the bullpup, but ARs seems to be just absolutely dominating the market right now. Kinda like with Glocks in the full size handgun market I guess.
Edit: I was messing around with different combination grips & magazine floor plate on my Ruger SR22, so I took this picture:
I wish Hogue would come up with some cool aftermarket options!
Edit: I was messing around with different combination grips & magazine floor plate on my Ruger SR22, so I took this picture:
I wish Hogue would come up with some cool aftermarket options!
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a6, here's a neat product for your .308.
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3335
I've got one on my .223. Probably one of the best upgrades you can get.
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3335
I've got one on my .223. Probably one of the best upgrades you can get.
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Did you bring this part up before? I know I've seen it before.
I'd probably wait, even if I had to pay more(they have promotional discount right now). What kind of upgrade is this? Just faster & easier operation? I am definitely interested. Not a huge fan of the charging handle design of AR.
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- Zenith113
Yeah, I brought it up when I was talking about my gun.
The roll pin that holds the latch on the standard charging handle has been upgraded. The original design was meant to be carefully operated with the firing hand, like this.
Unfortunately nobody with any sense of urgency uses their firing hand. We use our support hand and we tend to pull fairly hard and not in a direction perfectly linear with the axis of motion. This can torque the charging handle and can lead to the roll pin being broken and the gun becoming useless. The Rainier charging handle and several others like the BCM Gunfighter fix this issue by using bigger, stronger roll pins.
The body itself is made of steel instead of aluminum. It makes it much stronger and gives me more confidence to use it with speed.
You can also operate it by pulling on either side of the handle. For people shooting on the left hand side, this means that they can use a standard manual of arms, for right handed operation it makes locking the bolt open easier.
Personally my favorite thing is the strength of the steel. Compared to my standard aluminum handle, the difference is profound. I don't feel like I need to treat it with care.
The roll pin that holds the latch on the standard charging handle has been upgraded. The original design was meant to be carefully operated with the firing hand, like this.
Unfortunately nobody with any sense of urgency uses their firing hand. We use our support hand and we tend to pull fairly hard and not in a direction perfectly linear with the axis of motion. This can torque the charging handle and can lead to the roll pin being broken and the gun becoming useless. The Rainier charging handle and several others like the BCM Gunfighter fix this issue by using bigger, stronger roll pins.
The body itself is made of steel instead of aluminum. It makes it much stronger and gives me more confidence to use it with speed.
You can also operate it by pulling on either side of the handle. For people shooting on the left hand side, this means that they can use a standard manual of arms, for right handed operation it makes locking the bolt open easier.
Personally my favorite thing is the strength of the steel. Compared to my standard aluminum handle, the difference is profound. I don't feel like I need to treat it with care.
Ah, that picture takes me back...
I never racked the charging handle like that outside of drills, though. I did use my firing hand most of the time (using your offhand means taking it out of your shoulder), but I grabbed it with the first two fingers, one on each side. You're right about racking it hard.. I would basically pull until it stopped, at which point my hand kept moving, effectively tearing my fingers loose of the charging handle, and it would snap home. Takes about a quarter of a second.
You're not wrong about the steel.. first time I picked up a civilian AR-15, I thought it was a toy.
I never racked the charging handle like that outside of drills, though. I did use my firing hand most of the time (using your offhand means taking it out of your shoulder), but I grabbed it with the first two fingers, one on each side. You're right about racking it hard.. I would basically pull until it stopped, at which point my hand kept moving, effectively tearing my fingers loose of the charging handle, and it would snap home. Takes about a quarter of a second.
You're not wrong about the steel.. first time I picked up a civilian AR-15, I thought it was a toy.
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Weird, I have no problem using my support hand to rack the handle with the gun still up in my shoulder. Maybe this is because I'm using a light weight 16" carbine and you had a 20" rifle.
This is what the Rainier handle allows righties to get around. Instead of having to position your forearm above the rifle so you can grab the latch on the left side, you can simply pull on the right latch that isn't present in the original design.
This is what the Rainier handle allows righties to get around. Instead of having to position your forearm above the rifle so you can grab the latch on the left side, you can simply pull on the right latch that isn't present in the original design.
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Just ordered a Redfield 2-7x33 scope, I've read good things about it, Leupold lenses, good reputation, American-made (assembled in the Philippines though?), good quality. And the best thing - the price - *drum roll..............* 209 bucks with shipping! 
Now thats what I'd call a deal.
I chose the so called accu-range reticle which has a holdover (mildot) for 300 or 400 yds (I think)
The reticle looks like this: (9x magnification @ 1000yds)
Now thats what I'd call a deal. I chose the so called accu-range reticle which has a holdover (mildot) for 300 or 400 yds (I think)
The reticle looks like this: (9x magnification @ 1000yds)
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When I spent 3 hours at the sports shop, waiting on my background check, they had this rifle scope display featuring plastic(fake) bolt-action rifles & ARs with Leupolds, Nikons & Redfields sitting on them. It was a pretty cool demo to try out their scopes. It was similar to this, except it was a four-sided display.
I had never heard of Redfield until that day, but I was very impressed with their quality, and also the pricing. I didn't know that they had Leupold lenses though. That's awesome. đź‘Ť
I had never heard of Redfield until that day, but I was very impressed with their quality, and also the pricing. I didn't know that they had Leupold lenses though. That's awesome. đź‘Ť
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First I thought this was a fake but found several sources about it and it appears to be real!
14.9mm SOP ultra long range cartridge, 20mm Vulcan anti aircraft case necked down to accept 14.9mm bullets weighing a whooping 1690 grains with a muzzle velocity of 3350 fp/s!
According to its designers it shoots half MOA at up to 3000yds and stays supersonic out to 5400yds and has more than twice the energy as the 14.mm PTRD round which was used by the Russians as light anti tank rifle in WWII.
Makes the 50BMG look like a 22lr.
This is ridiculous. I want one.
But do we even have optics to identify targets 3 kilometers away?
First I thought this was a fake but found several sources about it and it appears to be real!
14.9mm SOP ultra long range cartridge, 20mm Vulcan anti aircraft case necked down to accept 14.9mm bullets weighing a whooping 1690 grains with a muzzle velocity of 3350 fp/s!
According to its designers it shoots half MOA at up to 3000yds and stays supersonic out to 5400yds and has more than twice the energy as the 14.mm PTRD round which was used by the Russians as light anti tank rifle in WWII.
Makes the 50BMG look like a 22lr.
This is ridiculous. I want one.
But do we even have optics to identify targets 3 kilometers away?
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But no reticle?
Your house.
Probably a lot, each projectile is machined from a solid piece of copper with almost zero tolerances, it eats tons of powder, 20mm cases is hard to come by because the 20mm round itself is considered a destructive device and is not sold to the public shooters.
And lets not forget a special set of reloading dies and an oversized press to load it.
So its not just expensive, its hell of a lot of work!
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This site has cool page featuring the A-10, 20mm's & 30mm's.
From there:
Talk about putting things in perspective.
So glad they are on our side!
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From here:
From there:
Talk about putting things in perspective.
So glad they are on our side!Edit:
From here:
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I need to change my underpants!
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I have a 30mm bullet like that from an airshow. It doesn't have any powder in it but it's got a turquoise jacketed bullet and looks like it belongs to some kind of cannon. When I was a kid I used to imagine how bad my day would be if I got hit by one of those. You could throw it at someone and give them a contusion.
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