Real Guns

[Zenith]

Progress!

In sum, the empirical literature on the effects of allowing the carriage of guns in public fails to establish a pragmatic defense of the Illinois law…. Anyway the Supreme Court made clear in Heller that it wasn’t going to make the right to bear arms depend on casualty counts….If the mere possibility that allowing guns to be carried in public would increase the crime or death rates sufficed to justify a ban, Heller would have been decided the other way, for that possibility was as great in the District of Columbia as it is in Illinois.

A blanket prohibition on carrying gun in public prevents a person from defending himself anywhere except inside his home; and so substantial a curtailment of the right of armed self-defense requires a greater showing of justification than merely that the public might benefit on balance from such a curtailment, though there is no proof it would.

 

[Omnis]

No, I'm not talking about the ACR stuff, I mean the whole history of the infantry rifleman's issued gun.

 

[Zenith]

Also true.

 

[a6m5]

I so wish "select fire" guns were available to us all. Mall shooting in my town tonight. One of the three large malls in town, so this is going to be a big news thing. Last I heard, two killed + the shooter is dead. Shooter reportedly in black(there were reports of camo, also), hockey mask, body armor, possibly. They won't say what type of gun, but it was a semi-auto rifle.

Just drove by that mall Sunday. Sick of this @#!*.

That's a Steyr Advanced Combat Rifle or ACR, not the Viper ACR, that's a advanced SRT-10 Viper for the track. But I'm getting of target (pun intended.)

But the ACR fires special rounds called flechlettes (sp?) that are thin, I believe, but are powerful. It's a concept rifle that didn't go into production like the HK G11 and the HK CAWS auto shotgun. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I thought you just knew about cars & Hot Wheels.

 

[Zenith]

Yup. Gun free zone.

 

[a6m5]

Now they say that shooter shot himself.

I seriously don't get the point with these people. Just go suck on your own, somewhere else. Want some attention? Get a GF, or BF if that's your thing, get a dog. Just leave us alone.

 

[Jedi2016]

They won't say what type of gun, but it was a semi-auto rifle.

I wish the media would stop using that phrase. A Ruger 10-22 is a semi-automatic rifle. A Glock 19 is semi-automatic. Big stinkin' deal.

 

[a6m5]

I get it, but still better than no description at all. Or claiming it's a AK47, and it turn out to be a 10/22(like that old internet joke lol).

Edit: They did it! They just said "assault rifle".

Edit2: To be fair, the other anchor worded it "it appears to be a assault rifle".

Edit3: One witness I think just said "M16". They got an ARMY at the scene. I think they are just SWAT, but they look like a units straight out of Middle East.

 

[Zenith]

I'll be purposely avoiding the media on this one. I get tired of all the snakes.

 

[a6m5]

I'll be purposely avoiding the media on this one. I get tired of all the snakes.

I feel bad for the people who were terrorized, and of course the victims? At the same time, I'm just so disgusted by another idiot on a rampage, and also the media & political bashing on firearms that you know is coming.

Hey, why don't you go start a thread on this shooting in the opinions forum, Z-Man. You seem to enjoy babysitting there.

 

[VspecZR1GT2RS89]

I so wish "select fire" guns were available to us all. Mall shooting in my town tonight. One of the three large malls in town, so this is going to be a big news thing. Last I heard, two killed + the shooter is dead. Shooter reportedly in black(there were reports of camo, also), hockey mask, body armor, possibly. They won't say what type of gun, but it was a semi-auto rifle.

Just drove by that mall Sunday. Sick of this @#!*.

I thought you just knew about cars & Hot Wheels.

Nope, along with cars and scale versions, video games and computers, I have a soft spot for guns, knives and swords . Coming from family on both sides who served in the US Army, Marines, Coast Gaurd, The CIA and FBI and the NYPD, fought in two historic wars.... So yeah, love these mechanical pieces as well.

And along with people who do dumb and outrageous things to cars (not the people who custom or do things with cars with taste, care and still do unique styles, including me) but I can't stand idiots who think they are a tough guy and/or wants to shoot everything in sight to prove something or a stupid shooting that will be used to anti gun people without looking at people who have guns, but they'll use it correctly and won't go berserk.

If I hate ricers, donk boyz, wannabe JDM "gangsters" who think putting on a dumb fartcan on a Civic is JDM Type R, guys who abuse classic muscle cars and trucks and leave them to rust and wear down and the ones who have a V6 'Stang think they are muscle/truck guys and insult foreign cars and even to modern muscle cars and trucks and those 🤬 drunk drivers. I also hate the morons in the gun/knives and swords world as well .

And when I was a kid, I had alot of G.I. Joes and a few other people with real guns with them and played alot of Syphon Filter, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Dino Crisis, Tenchu( Japanese blades FTW), Assassin Creed(soon I'll get into that one) Tomb Raider( a little bit of TR but my older niece and older brother loves the series of Lara Croft and adventures FTW) and Hitman (fibre wire anyone )... So I done alot of researching on guns and blades, same with cars and trucks from Gran Turismo, Forza Motorsports, Test Drive and the older NFS and the new HP2010.

 

[a6m5]

I get your point about the variety of approach to both hobbies(auto & firearms), but I think I just realized that, when it comes to guns, I might be an equivalent of ricers putting a rear wing on a Civic(not gonna lie, I like tacticool lol).

Go me.

 

[Zenith]

You shoot your guns. That puts you ahead of the majority of firearm owners.

 

[Omnis]

So I thought this was way cool:



Then he said it was $6,000 and I lolololed.

What do you guys think of the 10/22 Takedown?

 

[Zenith]

Hey, why don't you go start a thread on this shooting in the opinions forum, Z-Man. You seem to enjoy babysitting there.

Gun rights are my crusade against fear and authoritarianism. Some would call it masochism. I agree with them.

*vid*

Then he said it was $6,000 and I lolololed.

Oh the 'ole "Speshul Furses are using this" gag. If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that...

In most of those guys' videos they talk sense. It seems one of a dozen they say something stupid. The things I hear and see in my local gun shops make me want to bite my pinky off. Is there a secret coalition of LGS employees seeking to spread misinformation and silliness?

What do you guys think of the 10/22 Takedown?

I think it's pretty cool. Also look at the Marlin Papoose. It's like the 10/22, just about a pound and a half lighter but without the aftermarket support.

 

[Nicksfix]

How about this lady's find ?

Nice one 👍 Bet this made her day.

 

[a6m5]

That is a beauty. 👍 Before I knew much about guns, I thought the AK ripped that design off.

Gun rights are my crusade against fear and authoritarianism. Some would call it masochism. I agree with them.

Alrighty then. 👍

I think it's pretty cool. Also look at the Marlin Papoose. It's like the 10/22, just about a pound and a half lighter but without the aftermarket support.

Never seen that Marlin before. How about that Survival gun? Wouldn't that be the most compact .22 rifle of the kind?

 

[VspecZR1GT2RS89]

That is a beauty. 👍 Before I knew much about guns, I thought the AK ripped that design off.

Or it could be the ancestor to the mighty AK-47... Looks like a grandfather AK to me.

 

[Solid Lifters]

 

[Michael88]

^ Classic.

 

[a6m5]

That guy's got good hearing. And Michael, your pic might be in violation of AUP, though I'm not certain.

I really need to shoot my new pistol. A kid at work came to me, asking if I had shot it yet. My words exactly: "oh, yeah...... I forgot I gotta new gun."

 

[Michael88]

My 6-shot group shot at 60yds with hot 1 1/8 ounce slugs out of my cheap Russian smoothbore single shot slug gun. (Yes the super small & short shotgun that kicks the living hell out of me)

Pretty funny, with my shotgun I beat a lot of shooters which had rifles. (me included)

 

[David]

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[Zenith]

Nice. What are the small holes from? Did you use an optic?

 

[Michael88]

Thanks! Nope, no optics, just a crude post and u-notch battue sight. It shoots like that all day long if I do my part.

Don't know what caliber the small holes are, I had to recycle a used target and had only some white target patches to hide them.
My shooting range is so freaking scrimpy I haven't had a fresh target to shoot at in years even though I'm paying the full membership fee. (67 Euros / year).
Blasted nimrods.

 

[a6m5]

Dang, 60 yards? Good shooting, Michael. 👍

It sucks about the targets. One of the nice things about the one I've been going to, you can bring your own paper targets, or you buy them for just couple of bucks(I think it's like 2 for $1, or 4 for $2 for the standard ones).

 

[Michael88]

I could bring my own targets though I refuse to do that, I'm already paying for the targets with my membership fee. Its not that I couldn't afford or print a few simple paper targets, its much more a matter of principle.

If they don't want to provide me with new targets like they're supposed to I'm going to use up all their nice little target patches.

 

[a6m5]

Ah, OK, I misunderstood. I thought maybe the range didn't allow outside targets to be brought in.

Good for you, man. Use up their little patches.

 

[Jedi2016]

Neither of the ranges I go to supply targets, but they're more than happy to sell them to you. Luckily, they don't have any problems with folks bringing their own targets, I've found it's cheaper to go to one of the sports & outdoor stores on the way and pick up targets there.

 

[a6m5]

I like the one I go to, hate just about all others, so I buy the target there, also leave my brass there, too. I'm sure it helps them out little tiny bit.