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[Knelly]

You can set the car's weight to those numbers, but not the weight regulations in the room, which can only move in multiples of 10 (and there's no way to check the weight of someone's car). I'll look into tracks we could use. One possible track could be Madrid, since IndyCar has races in cities and I feel that Madrid (or Tokyo) would fit nicely.

Damm Joe, as always, you just beat me to it .

Guys, I can vouch for Joe to be a very welcome addition to making this right. His knowledge and skills are excellent, and I know he is enthusiastic enough to be involved. Just wish he'd share his NASCAR road settings 👍

As for the Tracks, been thinking about this alllllll day Joe is definately right. After watching Baltimore just today IRL, we need a street circuit. I originally thought Rome, but then thought that we can use Tokyo as the Indy Japan. Combine two birds with one stone (plus, I detest Fuji as much as Autumn Ring ). Then we can add either Daytona Road or Indy Road. Great work though mate, like it a lot.

Also move the last regular season Indy to be earlier, as two Indys together for those that make it, doesn't work.

I'm probably not good till Sunday / Monday night to commit time to getting all together for a few hours and testing. What you guys think (inc Joe)?

Off to bed now, so catch up tomorrow.

 

[cgr-10]

Ok will change them up, shall I put the schedule etc. on the OP?

 

[LVracerGT]

Drifter Joe I'm glad you pointed all of that out because I have not had time to get on and type all of that lol. I did a lot of testing the other night. One thing I wanted to discuss.... tires. Racing hard's give the car too much grip with the amount of downforce the FGT creates compared to an IndyCar. So I was thinking about moving the tires to... comfort hards. I drove online with them and they give the car more realistic handling characteristics and allow for a little more wheelspin which actually reminds me of the dallara.

For anyone who is doubting this, take a look here. I know a LOT about the IndyCar Series. I spent more than 2 years developing this mod for GTR2 and it has been tested by actual IndyCar drivers to be as realistic as possible in the sim.

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=28163

Also, the US schedule will be released soon. What time/date do we wanna set up a test between us 4?

 

[DrifterJoe]

I'd go for Indy road over Daytona road, just because of the first corner of Daytona Road.

LVracerGT: Do you suggest using comfort hards for road courses and ovals, or just road courses?

 

[cgr-10]

I'd go for Indy road over Daytona road, just because of the first corner of Daytona Road.

Well I think we should keep both, if not the schedule will be abit too short in my opinion And as for testing I think it might be next week right?

 

[LVracerGT]

Madrid will be one of the street circuits for the US schedule. Other tracks im considering:

Laguna Seca
Grand Valley
Autumn Ring
Tokyo
Daytona RC

Don't have the game on. I'm planning on a 5 race schedule with the 6th race being Indy at the end

 

[LVracerGT]

I'd go for Indy road over Daytona road, just because of the first corner of Daytona Road.

LVracerGT: Do you suggest using comfort hards for road courses and ovals, or just road courses?

I will have to test the tires on the oval. Haven't tried it out yet.

 

[DrifterJoe]

Well I think we should keep both, if not the schedule will be abit too short in my opinion And as for testing I think it might be next week right?

Ah, didn't see they were both on the list, and I was mainly replying to Knelly's comment: "Then we can add either Daytona Road or Indy Road."

 

[cgr-10]

Madrid will be one of the street circuits for the US schedule. Other tracks im considering:

Laguna Seca
Grand Valley
Autumn Ring
Tokyo
Daytona RC

Don't have the game on. I'm planning on a 5 race schedule with the 6th race being Indy at the end

Yeah that sounds pretty cool, good luck with that And obviously we've got the end of season US + UK Indy 500, should be a lot of fun. Oh and if you need track lengths etc. I've got a link aswell.

Ah, didn't see they were both on the list, and I was mainly replying to Knelly's comment: "Then we can add either Daytona Road or Indy Road."

Well the rest of the track after turn 1 is fast and relatively simple so it kind of evens out I like both to be honest, and yeah I've edited the list a couple of times already.

 

[DrifterJoe]

If comfort hard tyres are the most realistic on road courses, we'll still have to have comfort medium tyres as well so that we have 2 different compounds of tyres to use in the race.

EDIT: Just ran comfort hards at Laguna Seca. My gearing was a bit off, but my fastest time was a 1:12.0 on the one lap that I didn't spin/go off track. >__>

EDIT 2: Was on a slightly better lap, but I got disconnected from my own lounge. I guess I've not lost the connection problems that started after 1.11 . That's still my only clean lap so far.

EDIT 3: What's our current track list?

EDIT 4: Changed setup. Car is a little bit easier to control. Managed a 1:10.6xx .

EDIT 5: Found a more stable setup. Got a 1:10.3xx . I think I'm done with searching for setups for now.

 

[LVracerGT]

I'm going to do some more testing today and get a whole track list and race lengths made up. Will anyone be able to test this weekend?

 

[Knelly]

I'm going to do some more testing today and get a whole track list and race lengths made up. Will anyone be able to test this weekend?

Have I got it wrong that both UK and US will be running the sane track schedule? Running in two series tonight and one tomorrow so mon / tues would be better for me personally

 

[LVracerGT]

No they don't have to be the same schedule. I will probably want to run some different tracks. Right now the only 3 tracks I know I want to run are Indy, Laguna, and Madrid.

 

[DrifterJoe]

If someone can tell me the current up to date UK track list and how long we want the races to be (time), I can work out the laps for our races to about 3-5 minutes of the length wanted (not taking into account spins/going off track/cautions. I guess I could leave between 5 and 10 minutes in case of these.).

EDIT: Just remembered that we wanted them to be about 1 hour.

Checked what we said about tracks too. Current tracks seem to be: Daytona Speedway, Indy Speedway, Laguna Seca, Indy Road, Daytona Road, and Tokyo.

Now for the part where I do testing to work out race distances. I probably won't have many tracks done tonight since I'm in a race, and will qualify for next week's Daytona 500. I'll start at Laguna Seca though, since that's where I tested last night.

EDIT: At this point I should also point out that I'm a DS3 user, though a smooth one.

I also remembered the rule that IndyCars were given small fuel tanks so that they had to pit for fuel at least once, so I'll say if each 1 hour long race will require fuel to be taken on during a stop. (A reminder about the tyre rule too: you must do at least 2 laps on each tyre compound in a race.)

Laguna Seca - 50 laps - Will need to pit for a minimum of 10 litres of fuel. Here's 2 possible strategies: Start on softer compound, pit for hard tyres and fuel once your laptimes drop 1/2-1 second slower than times on fresh harder tyres. Or...pit roughly at half distance, take on more soft tyres and some fuel, and change to hard tyres with 2 laps to go.

 

[cgr-10]

Well the race lengths and schedule are on the last page and the circuit races are all 100 miles,the speedways 200. This should mean the races will last about an hour, thanks for testing the pit times and tyre compunds, and yeah I'm also a DS3 user.

 

[Masi_23]

When are you planning the hold the first race Tom? If it's mid-week and somewhere at night (BST), i might be able to participate.

 

[Furinkazen]

I will watch this, been looking at open wheel series myself for a while.

 

[DrifterJoe]

If you're still after course ideas, how about one that has changeable weather, such as Suzuka?

When are you planning the hold the first race Tom? If it's mid-week and somewhere at night (BST), i might be able to participate.

The agreed upon day/time is currently tuesday nights, with the room open for qualifying from 8:30pm, and the race starting at 9pm.

 

[cgr-10]

When are you planning the hold the first race Tom? If it's mid-week and somewhere at night (BST), i might be able to participate.

Yep Masi, as Joe said it'll start at 8:30 UK time, and as for starting date it might be a few weeks as we've got to test and create a proper thread/sign up drivers.

If you're still after course ideas, how about one that has changeable weather, such as Suzuka?

Well there's only one Indy Japan race, and it was originally Fuji before we decided that an Indy series is incomplete without a street race. And I think we have enough races for now, save it for season 2

 

[DrifterJoe]

One thing we'll need to work out is cautions. I'm guessing that we'll only have full course cautions on ovals. Will we have someone as a pace car, or just have the race leader act as the pace car? If there's no real way to communicate the lap we go back green (microphones disabled to impove connections, or microphones not being heard by some people), my suggestion could be to have a preset number of laps for a caution (probably 3, this allows for 1 lap to reduce your speed and have the field bunch up, 1 lap for pitting, and another lap to get everyone back together double file for a restart.). This also brings me onto restarts, as we'll need to decide a point on the track to use as a place to accelerate from on a restart.

 

[cgr-10]

One thing we'll need to work out is cautions. I'm guessing that we'll only have full course cautions on ovals. Will we have someone as a pace car, or just have the race leader act as the pace car? If there's no real way to communicate the lap we go back green (microphones disabled to impove connections, or microphones not being heard by some people), my suggestion could be to have a preset number of laps for a caution (probably 3, this allows for 1 lap to reduce your speed and have the field bunch up, 1 lap for pitting, and another lap to get everyone back together double file for a restart.). This also brings me onto restarts, as we'll need to decide a point on the track to use as a place to accelerate from on a restart.

Unless anybody is willing to drive a pace/safety car for every race we'll have to use the race leader. And yeah they're only really necessary on ovals, 3 laps is a good idea and if there's no mic's we could just use the start/finish line to accelerate from?

 

[DrifterJoe]

The problem would then be getting the message out that there is a caution. Something used in a league I was previously in was that the person who spins/crashes etc would type "CAUTION" in the chat window after they've spun if they didn't have a mic (making sure they come to a complete stop with the handbrake engaged so that they don't wander back onto the track while they're typing), so we could do that.

If we don't have a full field of 16 cars, we could always ask the ORB to supply a pace car driver. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=216526

 

[cgr-10]

Yeah that seems like the best idea, won't take too long to type 7 letters into chat. I think (once again you're right )we should see how many drivers sign up for the series, and if we have 15 or less, sign up a pace car driver from ORB.

 

[Knelly]

Sorry about last night Joe, after the NASCAR race my head was killing me and could only really see out of one eye . There was no way I could hardly read your message, let alone test.

Everything here so far looks excellent. We have our schedule, car limits by the looks of it - but we do need to test, for sure.

 

[cgr-10]

Yeah we'll test this week whenever you can get on Knelly 👍 Also I've updated the
OP with the new schedule and some more details.

 

[LVracerGT]

I did some testing last night shortly. Tokyo and Madrid will be the two US street courses. I think both series should save the Indy oval until the last race between the two. It's a huge special even in real life. It should be the headliner to the series here IMHO.

US Scehdule is as follows.

Telemundo Indy Grand Prix of Madrid
Mazda Indy 100 at Laguna Seca
Toyota Indy Grand Prix at Tokyo
Go Daddy 100 at Daytona RC
Honda Indy Grand Prix at Suzuka
Indianapolis 200

Right now I'm planning on running Tuesday nights around 9pm Eastern. Lounge will open at 8:30pm EST Qualifying will be at 9 exactly. Thinking about super pole qualifying. One car at a time, one warm up lap and one flying lap. When one car starts it's flying lap the next starts his warm up lap.

I was planning on cautions for both oval and road/street courses. I will have mics enabled. My internet can handle it no problem. It will be just like you said. If someone spins/crashes they will announce the caution either over the headset or type "CAUTION".

Caution will be 3 laps from when the leader crosses the finish line. Pitting is not allowed until the end of lap 1. The race moderator will announce when the pits are open and when the restart will happen. An acceleration point will be established before each race.

Also, starts and restarts will be side by side rolling starts. Restarts the leader will decide if he wants right or left side of the track and the rest of the field will line up accordingly. Indianapolis will be the famous 3 wide start, with restarts being double file.

Just updated the website with the schedule and regulations.

 

[cgr-10]

I did some testing last night shortly. Tokyo and Madrid will be the two US street courses. I think both series should save the Indy oval until the last race between the two. It's a huge special even in real life. It should be the headliner to the series here IMHO.

US Scehdule is as follows.

Telemundo Indy Grand Prix of Madrid
Mazda Indy 100 at Laguna Seca
Toyota Indy Grand Prix at Tokyo
Go Daddy 100 at Daytona RC
Honda Indy Grand Prix at Suzuka
Indianapolis 200

Right now I'm planning on running Tuesday nights around 9pm Eastern. Lounge will open at 8:30pm EST Qualifying will be at 9 exactly. Thinking about super pole qualifying. One car at a time, one warm up lap and one flying lap. When one car starts it's flying lap the next starts his warm up lap.

I was planning on cautions for both oval and road/street courses. I will have mics enabled. My internet can handle it no problem. It will be just like you said. If someone spins/crashes they will announce the caution either over the headset or type "CAUTION".

Caution will be 3 laps from when the leader crosses the finish line. Pitting is not allowed until the end of lap 1. The race moderator will announce when the pits are open and when the restart will happen. An acceleration point will be established before each race.

Also, starts and restarts will be side by side rolling starts. Restarts the leader will decide if he wants right or left side of the track and the rest of the field will line up accordingly. Indianapolis will be the famous 3 wide start, with restarts being double file.

Just updated the website with the schedule and regulations.

All this sounds good, although I think the UK series might just stick to a qualifying time window (15-20 mins for example) as it's more simple, but whatever floats your boat The schedule looks good (especially the names which i'll add to UK) except the Indy shouldn't be at the end of the season. Mainly because it would get abit repetitive doing a 200 mile race, finishing the season and then hopping straight into a 500 mile race on the same track. I suggest putting it early-mid season? Just a thought, apart from that it all looks good Are we going to have separate threads for US and UK aswell? might make it more organized.

 

[LVracerGT]

All this sounds good, although I think the UK series might just stick to a qualifying time window (15-20 mins for example) as it's more simple, but whatever floats your boat The schedule looks good (especially the names which i'll add to UK) except the Indy shouldn't be at the end of the season. Mainly because it would get abit repetitive doing a 200 mile race, finishing the season and then hopping straight into a 500 mile race on the same track. I suggest putting it early-mid season? Just a thought, apart from that it all looks good Are we going to have separate threads for US and UK aswell? might make it more organized.

I was making the Indy 200 at the end the US/UK final. I don't think a full 500 mile race would get people interested. That's a really long race.

 

[cgr-10]

I was making the Indy 200 at the end the US/UK final. I don't think a full 500 mile race would get people interested. That's a really long race.

I do want to run a separate US/UK Indy race, I think the team element the second time round would make it interesting enough to warrant a re-run of Indy. But to be honest I'm not sure whether to run a 200 and a 500 or just one, I suppose we'd have to ask Knelly for his opinion too 👍

EDIT: I'd hope that the general epicness of doing a full 500 miles would be the main attraction, that winning would feel like a real achievement. It depends on who's interested at the end of the season.

 

[LVracerGT]

I do want to run a separate US/UK Indy race, I think the team element the second time round would make it interesting enough to warrant a re-run of Indy. But to be honest I'm not sure whether to run a 200 and a 500 or just one, I suppose we'd have to ask Knelly for his opinion too 👍

EDIT: I'd hope that the general epicness of doing a full 500 miles would be the main attraction, that winning would feel like a real achievement. It depends on who's interested at the end of the season.

Although I do agree with the team aspect, in real life there is only one Indy, one shot to get in, one race. I'm not saying we HAVE to run only one, that's just my opinion. It is whatever everyone wants to do. I just think it makes it special having the one big one at the end.

What we could do is split the difference on the distance. Make it 250 or 300 miles. I think 250 would be pretty good. Once again tho it's gotta be a joint decision.