I'll be trying this one sometime this week, maybe you'll be able to make me like Lamborghini's for onceTune updatedPretty good for 600PP supercar on RH tire. Should work on SS tire too.
. For some strange reason I don't get any alerts from here 
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Great! That is tune what I want to try, loved that car tuned on default weight/distro, is that coming lighter than default 1150kg?How does Yellowbird with 38/62 or 37/63 weight distribution sounds ?
, the only way to tame it to civil level would be to use higher front spring rate . based on Sport Auto and Auto Motor Und Sport 1988 tests.
@Ridox2JZGTE okay, if you decide to not publish, please share specs on that case, otherwise I'll be just waiting to test it out.
I'm in love with those hard drive cars in GT6
I just checked, and everything seems right, everything is on, maybe there's a limit to the number of watched threads
. It's happened before, I'll try reseting, Thanks Dan 👍Nope, just got those two this morning
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This review could get a little long and complicated or I could keep it simple. Guess which one's comingENDLESS SPORTS #13 / #3 ADVAN CS-X CZ4A Lancer Evolution X ST-2
Nobuhiro Murata & Kyosuke Mineo & Hirokazu Suzuki
Super Taikyu Rd1 Suzuka 500KM Endurance Race
26th-27th April 2008 &
Super Taikyu 2009 ST-2 Class Champion
Tuned to Replicate Endless ST-2 Evo X 2008/2009
Sports Soft
CAR : Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR PP ( Premium Package ) '07
Tire : Sports Soft
Specs 370 PS
Horsepower: 365 HP / 370 PS at 6000 RPM
Torque : 346.0 ft-lb at 4200 RPM
Power Limiter at : 95.3%
Weight: 1390 kg
Ballast : 158 kg
Ballast Position : -35
Weight Distribution : 61/39
Performance Points: 492
Specs 350 PS
Horsepower: 345 HP / 350 PS at 6100 RPM
Torque : 346.0 ft-lb at 4200 RPM
Power Limiter at : 89.8%
Weight: 1390 kg
Ballast : 158 kg
Ballast Position : -35
Weight Distribution : 61/39
Performance Points: 485
GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED ) -MANDATORY
Aero Kits Type A
Custom Rear Wing :
Wing Mount Standard Type E
Wing Small Type F
Winglets Small Type J
Height 0 or -5 ( 0 for #3 2009 Endless Advan Evo X ) -5 or Lower for 2008 #13 Evo X.
Width 0
Wheels : Standard Size - ENKEI RC-T4 in White
Car Paint :
Deep Blue Metallic from Toyota FT-1 or Blue Metallic from Light Car Company Rocket '07
or Spectrum Blue Metallic from Jaguar XKR Coupe '10
Gauges : Free Choice
Tuning Parts Installed :
Sports Computer
Racing Exhaust
Catalytic Converter Sports
Fully Customizable Suspension
Full Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood ( Body Color ) or Optional Carbon Hood
Window Weight Reduction
Suspension - ENDLESS ZEAL Function X Plus ( Soft ) Base 10 / 8
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 80 90 or Optional lower 70 80
Spring Rate: 10.00 8.00
Dampers (Compression): 5 4
Dampers (Extension): 3 2
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 6
Camber Angle: 2.2 1.2
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.07
Suspension - ENDLESS ZEAL Function X Plus ( Soft ) OPTIONAL 10 / 8+1.5
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 80 90 or Optional lower 70 80
Spring Rate: 10.00 9.50
Dampers (Compression): 5 4
Dampers (Extension): 3 2
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 6
Camber Angle: 2.2 1.2
Toe Angle: 0.07 0.07
DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - EVO X GSR 5 Speed Manual with Stock Final
Install all power parts
Set Default
Use Default Final
Set Auto Max Speed at 360kmh / 224mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 2.857
2nd 1.950
3rd 1.444
4th 1.096
5th 0.761
6th 0.730 - Ignore for authenticity
Set Final 4.687
DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - RALLIART Gr N EVO X GSR 5 Speed with Gr N Final
OPTIONAL Close Ratio
Install all power parts
Set Default
Use Default Final
Set Auto Max Speed at 310kmh /193mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.000
2nd 2.000
3rd 1.470
4th 1.136
5th 0.893
6th 0.844 - Ignore for authenticity
Set Final 4.143 for High Speed Gr N Final or Standard Gr N Final at 4.307
S-AWC ( AYC )
AYC Controller : 30 - Stock offers good balance.
( Optional High Set : 60 or 90 or 120 ) - The higher, the better the car rotates but might be unstable.
LSD - RALLIART Gr N Front/Rear Mechanical LSD ( Low Preload ) Tarmac Setup
OPTIONAL
Front Set 1 ( 50/0 ) 1 Way - Recommended
Initial Torque : 6
Acceleration : 36
Braking : 5
Front Set 2 ( 40/0 ) 1 Way - Optional
Initial Torque : 6
Acceleration : 27
Braking : 5
Rear Set 1 ( 50/50 ) 2 Way - Recommended
Initial Torque : 12
Acceleration : 36
Braking : 36
Rear Set 2 ( 50/35 ) 1.5 Way - Optional
Initial Torque : 12
Acceleration : 36
Braking : 24
AERO
REAR : 20 ( MAX )
Brake Balance:
7/8 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I would recommend to run just one click higher on rear brake.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/8 brake balance as starting point.
Notes :
The ENDLESS ADVAN CS-X Lancer Evo X ST-2 replica was built to replicate the Rd 1 Suzuka 500 Km Race in 2008 Super Taikyu Championship ( car #13 ) and 2009 ST-2 Class Champion ( number changed to #3 ).
The Super Taikyu is a super endurance series under ruling or governed/run by STO and JAF. Running for years, the series enjoyed massive following and popularity in Japan. Variety of cars both domestic and foreign origin join together in all out test of pace and endurance with races counted in distance or time ( 500km races and 12 hours for example )
There are classes where cars are divided based on engine size and weight limit. ST-2 is a special class for all wheel drive cars with 2,001 - of 3,500cc engine capacity and a set minimum weight, mainly Subaru Impreza and Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.
The car in this replica is based on the Endless Sports Advan #13 Evo X that starts in Rd1 Suzuka 500 Km Race in 2008 Super Taikyu. The car was driven by 2 driver team, Nobuhiro Murata and Kyosuke Mineo. In 2009, another driver join in, Eiji Yamada with car number changed to #3. The #3 car finally became the 2009 Super Taikyu ST-2 Champion.
In the 1st Round 2008 Super Taikyu race at Suzuka 500 Km event, the Endless #13 Evo X set a blistering pace in practice session in Friday 25th April 2008, best 3 consecutive laps recorded :
#13 ENDLESS ADVAN CS.Z 2'21.346 - 2'18.821 - 2'18.831
The next day, 26th April 2008, Saturday qualifying session, determined by the sum of both drivers best lap, the Endless Advan Evo X struggle for better pace and settled for 6th position in ST-2 Class. Nobuhiro Murata was replaced by Hirokazu Suzuki. Nobuhiro Murata drove the other car entrant also run by Endless Sports - FINA Advan BMW M3 ST-3 Class which ranked 3rd.
#13 ENDLESS ADVAN CS · Z
Mineo, Kyosuke 2'19.237; Suzuki, Hirokazu 2'19.259; Total = 4'38.496 6th ST-2
The best qualifying by CZ4A Evo X was done by car #11 Orleans Evo X Team, with drivers from well known regulars in Best Motoring Video Magazine, "The Professor" Evo Expert Nakaya Akihiko set the quickest Evo X lap time in the event and Kino****a Takayuki posted 2nd best :
#11 Orleans Lancer EVO Ⅹ
Akihiko, Nakaya 2'17.823; Takayuki, Kino****a 2'18.115; Total = 4'35.938 4th ST-2
While, the best qualifying time by Lancer Evo was set by DIXCEL ☆ Shinryo Auto Evo IX MR CT9A with 2'15.868 lap time
On Sunday 27 April 2008, the race day :
The Endless Advan Evo X finished 3rd in class ( ST-2 ) and 7th overall completing 83 laps, 4 laps behind the top finisher.
Mineo Kyosuke 2'19.249 ( best in lap 53 )
Suzuki Hirokazu 2'21.429 ( best in lap 30 )
Total Time : 3:19'17.480
The #11 Orleans Evo X, once again the quickest Evo X in the race, finished 2nd in class ( ST-2 ) and 4th overall completing 84 laps, 3 laps behind the top finisher.
Akihiko Nakaya 2'18.723 ( best in lap 52 )
Takayuki Kino****a 2'19.741 ( best in lap 32 )
Total Time : 3:20'45.258
Nakaya Akihiko set the best lap in the race among ST-2 class cars ( the only Evo breaking into 2:18s range during the race
Now, the GT6 replica is set with available information gathered from many sources. The Endless Advan Evo X has between 350-370 PS ( power figure estimation as the Endless car exact power was kept secret ). The Endless Evo X uses HKS and Colt Speed parts for power department ( engine + exhaust ). I have provided 2 sets of power specs, 350PS and 370PS, although I do feel that the Endless Evo X most likely have about 320-330PS due to the very limited range of engine modification allowed in Super Taikyu ST2 class.
For weight and distribution, the Endless Evo X estimated weight was 1390kg based on Japanese Super Taikyu articles and reports. Due to extensive weight diet performed, the distribution has shifted forward slightly at 61/39 from 58/42 stock weight. The ST2 Evo X has safety roll cage and chassis reinforcement with fuel tank at the trunk to provide the best weight balance possible.
Suspension, I used one of the Endless product line, the Zeal Function X Plus ( Soft ) with X Coil Springs rated at 10k front and 8k rear. This is the base setup, while the optional rear rate offered by Zeal is provided as optional suspension setup with higher rear rate at 9.5k.
The base car used for the Endless Evo X is a 5 speed manual GSR, so I adapted the 5 speed ratio using the custom transmission. The stock 5 speed ratio proven to be good performer at Suzuka. The 6th gear has been set to be obsolete.
The S-AWC ( ACD and AYC ) are kept stock ( AYC Controller at 30 and stock torque split controller ), while the other drive train parts like clutch and drive shaft are also kept stock. Brake is also standard as I deemed the stopping power is adequate for sports soft tire used. The brake balance has been increased to provide optimal braking.
Body rigidity improvement has been installed ( mandatory ) as the real car has added roll cage and extensive chassis reinforcement. Aero has been set at 20 ( max ), rear wing height is set at 0 - for 2009 #3 Endless Advan Evo X ( same car with different number and slightly different wing ), you can use -5 or lower to get closer to the real car wing height for #13 2008 Endless Evo X.
The Endless Advan Evo X was tuned and tested at Suzuka. Tire is sports soft, with 370PS power when tested it was capable of 2:16.3xxs lap time with ease. A 2:15s is within reach, similar to the best qualifying lap time during Rd1 Suzuka 500Km 2008 at 2'15.868 by an Evo IX MR CT9A DIXCEL ☆ Shinryo Auto Team . Of course, the 2:16s Evo X 370PS lap is what if scenario, as the best the Evo X can muster at the event qualifying was in 2:17s range. A closer to real life performance would be using the 350PS power spec which will bring closer to 2:17s-2:18s lap time range.
I have provided a replay of test run using the 370 PS spec, base suspension 10k/8k and sports soft tire - offline.
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UPDATE : Added Paint details, added AYC optional value for more rotation, added optional RALLIART Gr N gearbox + Gr N LSD with 2 sets cam angle/lock rate front and rear.
Highly Recommend if using the optional LSD to use the front set 1 and rear set 1 ( high cam ), and RALLIART Gr N gearbox with high speed Final.
Purely because There are just so many options and I decided to try a few, so for the purposes of this test I equipped the Evo X with Specs 370 PS and fitted the DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - EVO X GSR 5 Speed Manual with Stock Final and started off with Suspension - ENDLESS ZEAL Function X Plus ( Soft ) Base 10 / 8 and left the AYC at 30 (Stock). You all know where this one's getting tested don't you. Yup 👍 you got that one right, Suzuka (Older version for now 
.) Oh, did I forget to say...
) review. 💡 With so many options I though I might try the two suspension options with the same base specs and do a little comparison. Part two which will follow at a later time/date will use the same suspension base and transmission and compare the MLSD options. Part three will...well you get the idea.. There's the purely for fun aspect of course, even though I don't really like or drive 4WDs in general. Which brings me to the final reason...practice 
) (Actually true:tup:. I feel real guilty now, I didn't put the race number on
) I think with more practice I could get another 0.6xx on this set-up, I had about 0.400 lead on and lost it at Spoon on Lap 14 and on a slower subsequent lap I gained 0.200 in the hairpin over the PB ghost. 
Nope, just got those two this morning
Make that 3
Wow, that's really good 👍, I guess I'll have to try that suspension tooThis review could get a little long and complicated or I could keep it simple. Guess which one's coming
No, 👎 Wrong you're getting the short version for now.
This is Test 1 of 2 in part one of this particular/peculiar (You choose
Why!?
Well a few reasons really, I have a feeling I could learn a bit from it
All aids off. Brake Balance at 3/4. Still using AT though,(one step at a time gentlemen)
With the softer option I did about 15 laps and it took me a bit of getting use to. The 4WDness aside you can tell it's got some weight to it and you can really tell where it is. I found the softer spring at the rear allowed good rotation and the car's agility surprised me a little if I'm honest, just a shame that you're shifting so much weight around. And I've got to agree with our good friend from the great white north, the 4th-5th gear change is a lap killer for AT users on those two straights, mostly the back straight coming up the hill. But the punch in the back as you get on the power out of the corners is really firm. 👍
I was getting the hang of it by about lap 4 or 5 but still hadn't managed a clean lap under 2:20. Lap 7 brought a very high 2:18 and by lap 10 I got to down to a 2:17.977. Afterwards I managed a couple more low 2:18s and then started pushing too hard. So time to pit in and get the pit guy to change the rear springs out. I think I've left about half a second out there somewhere. I'll see if I can find it when I head back out with 9.5K springs on (I'll bet @TurnLeft is starting to feel a little bit smug right about now
Again I ran about 15 laps again but this took a lot less time to get use too. It was a different car but not. I found it didn't rotate as well with the stiffer springs in and a little ov the agility was lost too. But I found it a lot more predictable and stable in the corners and the pick-up was little better coming out too. I found I could find the grip a bit easier with this configuration and my lap-times confirmed it. I was averaging mid 2:17's from lap 2 until I managed to dip into the 2:16s around lap 8 or 9 set a PB at 2:16.809 on Lap #13
So overall so far, I think I'd have to say the harder rear spring option is the one for me if I'm looking for lap times but the softer option although slower was a bit more fun. 👍
I'll have a little practice later with this and move on to the Differential options.
, that carrot seems quite small now, it's going to be hard to get it.
This review could get a little long and complicated or I could keep it simple. Guess which one's coming
No, 👎 Wrong you're getting the short version for now.
This is Test 1 of 2 in part one of this particular/peculiar (You choose
Why!?
Well a few reasons really, I have a feeling I could learn a bit from it
All aids off. Brake Balance at 3/4. Still using AT though,(one step at a time gentlemen)
With the softer option I did about 15 laps and it took me a bit of getting use to. The 4WDness aside you can tell it's got some weight to it and you can really tell where it is. I found the softer spring at the rear allowed good rotation and the car's agility surprised me a little if I'm honest, just a shame that you're shifting so much weight around. And I've got to agree with our good friend from the great white north, the 4th-5th gear change is a lap killer for AT users on those two straights, mostly the back straight coming up the hill. But the punch in the back as you get on the power out of the corners is really firm. 👍
I was getting the hang of it by about lap 4 or 5 but still hadn't managed a clean lap under 2:20. Lap 7 brought a very high 2:18 and by lap 10 I got to down to a 2:17.977. Afterwards I managed a couple more low 2:18s and then started pushing too hard. So time to pit in and get the pit guy to change the rear springs out. I think I've left about half a second out there somewhere. I'll see if I can find it when I head back out with 9.5K springs on (I'll bet @TurnLeft is starting to feel a little bit smug right about now
Again I ran about 15 laps again but this took a lot less time to get use too. It was a different car but not. I found it didn't rotate as well with the stiffer springs in and a little ov the agility was lost too. But I found it a lot more predictable and stable in the corners and the pick-up was little better coming out too. I found I could find the grip a bit easier with this configuration and my lap-times confirmed it. I was averaging mid 2:17's from lap 2 until I managed to dip into the 2:16s around lap 8 or 9 set a PB at 2:16.809 on Lap #13
So overall so far, I think I'd have to say the harder rear spring option is the one for me if I'm looking for lap times but the softer option although slower was a bit more fun. 👍
I'll have a little practice later with this and move on to the Differential options.
Make sure to try the higher AYC ( 60 / 90 / 120 ) on both spring rate, the AYC alone gives distinct handling from entry to exit. Getting the AYC right for the track and driving style will give lap time boost Then comes the LSD. The recommended LSD offers the most traction, while optional LSD has lower lock for front and 1.5 way for rear instead of 2 way ( more freedom under braking ). I like to use the base 8kg rear rate and recommended LSD or AYC at 30, it gives better control on long race.
When you have tried them, you will know which one best for you, LSD or AYC, 8k or 9.5k to go with it.
He doesn't need help you knowVery good read and I kind of like how you try the car with different setup step by step
The optional LSD could work better with 8kg rear spring for certain drivers, while the 9.5kg rear spring could make use the recommended LSD, depending on the driver preference and track. It will be a lot of combo to try
, It's hard enough for me to catch him up as it is .
Aventador and Yellowbird, and I'm thinking of adding a write up on the arb and damper tuning phase on one of the car ( I set the spring rate on both using real life values and tweaked spring ratio based on weight + weight distribution + chassis balance )
Yes, it could be possible also.maybe there's a limit to the number of watched threads
I'd say, in this case, it would be better to make a jump instead of steps.
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@Ridox2JZGTE
Inspired by your awesome work on GT4 cars i started Tuning some "What IF or never been" GT4 cars. So far I have an "Alfa GT GT4" ready that would be the first fictional FF GT4 car
Would you want to take a look at it? I'm very new to tuning and honestly half good at it, just a bit better on FF cars. The tune on Sport Softs in practice can snatch a 2.13.6 at Silverstone so i think it would be pretty on pace with the other gt4s, quite surprisingly for a FF car of 402hps and 1350kgs...
It would be an honor (no joke!) to have you looking into it or reviewing it. If it is ok for you should i post it here or PM it?
Maybe others can try it too
Thanks i will soon, it's my first public tune ever, i hope it won't disappoint!You can post it here
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CS tyres?I hope the replica will be as docile on CS tire
You wrote RH tyres. Now I can't wait to try it on CS too.
I want to thank @Ridox2JZGTE for allowing me to post My very first public tune ever. It is 100% inspired by his work and made trying to use a sensible and realistic approach.
CAR : Alfa GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 (GT4 fantasy)
Tire : Sports Soft
Specs 404 HP
Power Limiter at : 96%
Weight: 1350 kg
Ballast : 194 kg
Ballast Position : -50
Weight Distribution : 51/49
Performance Points: 501
GT AUTO
Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED ) -MANDATORY
Rear Aero Kits any Type you like
Tuning Parts Installed :
Engine Tuning LV3
Air Intake Tuning
Sports Computer
Racing Exhaust
Isometric manifold
Catalytic Converter Sports
Fully Customizable Suspension
Full Customizable Transmission
Weight Reduction Stage 2
Carbon Hood
Window Weight Reduction
Suspension - (fantasy ones but most Alfisti's track tune using Koni/Einbach ones)
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 90 90
Spring Rate: 5.31 7.27
Dampers (Compression): 1 2
Dampers (Extension): 1 2
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 5
Camber Angle: 0 0
Toe Angle: 0 0.60
TRANSMISSION -
Install all power parts
Set Default
Transmission Flip
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.132
2nd 2.175
3rd 1.721
4th 1.393
5th 1.197
6th 1.065
Set Final 3.804
LSD -
Initial Torque : 24
Acceleration : 27
Braking : 10
AERO
REAR : 5 ( MIN)
Brake Balance:
5/6 for ABS 1
NOTES:
I'm not an expert tuner and rarely race on Sport Tires beside on Ridox's tunes. This is my best effort at recreating a tune inspired by his serie of GT4 Replicas. No, the Alfa GT never competed in GT4 but i love FF cars and i wanted to make a comparison with the FR cars performance and test my skills.
I used Silverstone as my track of test and altought i'm not a very fast driver overall and expecially on sports tires i managed to get a very decent 2.13.878 that i'm sure the best drivers (and Silverstone experts) here will manage to top easily.
Car is very trustworthy along the track, it just requires a short shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear and to lower one extra gear at times to keep a better line on Turn 3.
I choose that power/weight figure more or less based on the other GT4 replicas but i might have probably made the car lighter; all in all i think it is pretty ok and with a light power limiter work it can race within the 500pp.
Hope to hear some feedback on this one, hope some drivers will like it and again thanks to Ridox for this space!
Azidahaka/Karsten
Just wanted to ask about the transmission, could you give explanation about the transmission flip Do you flip with max final then lowest top speed or some other way ? The rear toe in at 0.60 and front at 0.00, am I reading this correct ? 0.60 rear toe in on FF car will severely impact the entry to exit balance, giving erratic tight loose tight or loose tight loose cornering on medium to high speed ( not many FF road car uses high rear toe in, most extreme on modern FF at 5mm toe in - on 15" wheel would be 0.375 rear toe in per side, 16" = 0.35, 18" = 0.32 ). -0.60 rear toe out can be used safely in GT6 and works much better ( I used similar values on FF cars raced online by lewis_hamilton and @danbojte ) Maybe you forgot the - From my observation and experience tuning, on the damper, spring and weight distribution + 0.60 rear toe in, the Alfa would have traction deficit on low speed exit and prone to lock up under braking ( ABS 0 ) Will drive it soon as I have bought the car ( owned it already ) I may not be able to get 2:13s, seems a very quick time
Traction is excellent, but rear lateral load simply has too narrow grip limit threshold given the limitation in setup ( replica ) Will need to fine tune damper further and maybe adjust LSD preload to make the transition from partial throttle hold ( YB spends most of the time with it in corners ) to full smoother.
Howdy
I'm at work right now and i can't check Concerning Lockups i can't comment for i usually race with ABS = 1 due to my DFGT pedals
Howdy
I'm excited to hear your driving impressions 
