I don't know, people in military intelligence and analytics believe it, and given they're more in tune with what's going on than any of us, I'm inclined to believe them.
Okay, what intelligence is telling Putin is going to move further into Europe, where most countries are NATO members?
Why is it that every time a Putin-aid drinker enters a discussion about anything Russian-related, they immediately go to whataboutism? Even if the Ukrainians were committing genocide in Donbas (they weren't, but they were likely committing war crimes) that doesn't excuse Putin from committing genocide in Ukraine.
Sorry if I'm wrong, but I feel like your standards of genocide differ depending on whether the victims are Russians or not. Earlier, you accused Russia of genocide of Georgians and Chechens (although the "genocided" Chechens are still there and they're fighting for Russia now) and you now accuse RF of genocide of Ukriainains, but massive civilian casualties in Donbass don't count as genocide for you. Can you explain how you decide what is genocide and what is not?
And there's no need for that "Putin-aid drinker" thing. You don't need to be a Putinist to acknowledge the anti-Russian violence in east Ukraine. I know quite many people (including political activists) who are openly anti-Putin but support the Russian rebellion in Donbass. And we can have a respectful discussion, without falling to personal attacks.
I really don't think what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now qualifies as "genocide", nor do I think what Ukrainians might have done in Donbass qualifies as genocide. There is no systematic attempt to wipe out an entire ethnic/racial/religious/political group.
That's what I'm talking about.
What the Nazi Germany did under Hitler was terrible, but what communist Russia did under Stalin wasn't much better.
... the Soviet elimination of a social class, the kulaks (who were higher-income farmers), and the subsequent killer famine among all Ukrainian peasants – as well as the notorious 1937 order No. 00447 that called for the mass execution and exile of “socially harmful elements” as “enemies of the people” – were, in fact, genocide. Stalin had nearly a million of his own citizens executed, beginning in the 1930s. Millions more fell victim to forced labor, deportation, famine, massacres, and detention and interrogation by Stalin’s henchmen.
When it comes to use of the word “genocide,” public opinion has been kinder to Stalin than Hitler. But one historian looks at Stalin’s mass killings and urges that the definition of genocide be widened.
news.stanford.edu
So ex-KGB officer Putin accusing Ukrainians of being "nazis" is disingenuous at best. Unlike Germany, Russia has never really been forced to acknowledge its own brutal totalitarian history.
And what are you trying to say by this? That Russia is still guilty in crimes of a Georgian terrorist? Or that Putin is responsible for them because he served in KGB?
Russia doesn't glorify Stalin
since 1956. Have you wondered why and when the city of Stalingrad became Volgograd? And during the Perestroika era (late '80s), the Soviet government officialy deplored the crimes of Stalinism such as collusion with Hitler (Molotov-Ribbentrop pact) and the Katyn massacre. You are wrong if you think Russia doesn't acknowledge the cruelty of Stalin's rule.
Of course there are some people in Russia who believe Stalin was good and would want him back, but the government avoids even talking about Stalin or Lenin when it's not necessary.
Yes you do, that photos shows them wearing state awarded medals!
You missed the point - I mean the actual Nazi collaborators of WW2. I don't remember any street in Russia named after Andrey Vlasov or Bronislav Kaminski, or any monuments of them placed. People who publicly glorify historic personalities like these two don't walk free for too long in Russia.
Regarding the Wagner PMC, I know they aren't the most humane on the battlefield, but all we know about their alleged Nazi ideology is the tatoos on Utkin's body. Unlike the Azov commander Biletsky who publicly expressed his ideas.
Yeah, Azov right now and in 2014 are the same thing
Why not? There's no evidence of the contrary.
2021 - 7 killed, 32 injured. Info from DPR rulers, could be exaggeration.
But what about 6 previous years? It wasn't 1 year ago when this war began.
I'm not saying it strictly meets the definition of genocide, but neither the Russian actions in Ukraine do.
We honor other mass murders and name streets after them. Should someone invade us because of that? Right now we praising blood bath and putting in jail those who protests against war. Wake up, you are part of this and trying to justify it.
No, I'm NOT praising the invasion, I think it was a mistake. I thought it wouldn't happen because IMO it would be a trap to Russia.
However, I will NOT sympathize Ukraine in any way (the state of Ukraine, not the people).
But if you're talking about the communists, I agree with you here. The bolsheviks destroyed our country in 1917, and if I was the president, I'd continue the decommunization campaign and remove Lenin's body from the Red Square. The subject of this thread - Ukraine - is another Lenin's mistake. However, I'm not sure resolving it in the Putin's "decommunization & denazification" way is the best idea.
The woman photographed being carried away from the maternity ward bombing has died, as has her unborn baby.
A wounded pregnant woman who was seen being carried on a stretcher from a bombed maternity hospital in Mariupol, Ukraine, last week has died, along with her baby.
apnews.com
But, hey, according to a certain member, this was all staged & because YouTube & Twitter removed such "evidence" (rather than being removed b/c of misinformation), therefore that means they're
definitely true. Real Cult45-logic there.
That woman "whom the AP has not been able to identify" looks similar to a beauty blogger ("krevvetochka" and "gixie_beauty" on Instagram), who is actually pregnant. On
another photo, a very similarly looking woman is walking. But it's unlikely that she could be a patient there, because
according to the locals, there were no patients inside - it's been used as a military outpost by the Azov soldiers.
So, I'd say it's
highly likely to be staged. Of course I'm not 100% sure, but identifying that woman and checking if she actually dead or not would be necessary to verify.
