Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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Tornado
Probably not the country that started carpet bombing an entire country hours after claiming they were sending troops into specific contested regions to set up peacekeeping operations; and certainly not the cheerleaders who keep lying out of the side of their mouth about how horrified they are about the invasion taking place while foolishly trying to act smug when they trot out obviously dumb talking points as if they are tautologies regarding how justified it all has been.












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Time of crisis with people in danger because of an evil dictator from another country.

"Why isn't he wearing a suit"

Clearly, he has the correct priorities :lol:
 
Rage Racer
For our English-speaking friends: these are books found in schools of Russian-seized Melitopol. The books, marked with Azov symbols, propagate the ideology of OUN (a fascist organization of Ukrainian nationalists that pleged loyalty to Hitler when Germany occupied the west of Ukraine in 1941) to kids.
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OK, first, the Russian state doesn't have a great track record for honesty, so if you think that's getting taken a face value you have another thing coming.

And even if it is true, no one in this thread has either denied that Neo-Nazis exist in Ukraine, or have condoned that fact. However, that DOES NOT (all caps as you seem to be unable to take this information in) mean that Neo-Nazi's are widespread in the country, nor does it justify an illegal invasion.

Rage Racer
And I don't see how this conflict "was almost over" when Zelensky clearly stated he's not going to comply with the Minsk treaties.
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Cut the one-sided nonsense, you have already been corrected on this in this thread in the past, if you continue to break the AUP in this regard you will find your posting privileges removed.
 
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Afaik, there are russian speaking ukrainian nationalists in Azov. Keep in mind that Azov fighting with separatists and russian mercs for 8 years. Not everyone in Kharkiv and Mariupol are happy about separatism funded by Putin, even if they speak russian.

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inCloud
Afaik, there are russian speaking ukrainian nationalists in Azov. Keep in mind that Azov fighting with separatists and russian mercs for 8 years. Not everyone in Kharkiv and Mariupol are happy about separatism funded by Putin, even if they speak russian.
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Yep, the 'all Russian speaking Ukrainians will welcome me with open arms' part of Putin's plan has backfired in a massive way. A total and utter misread of the situation, which has only be further re-enforced by the way that the Russian army has pretty much indiscriminately targetted civilians.

I mean if all the false-flag attacks the Russians claim were actually happening the Russians would have won weeks ago, as the Ukrainian forces would have been too busy attacking themselves!

Edited to add, damn!

"A rapid Russian advance into the strategic southern town of 35,000 people, a gateway to a Ukrainian nuclear power station and pathway to attack Odessa from the back, would have showcased the Russian military’s abilities and severed Ukraine’s key communications lines.
Instead, the two-day battle of Voznesensk, details of which are only now emerging, turned decisively against the Russians. Judging from the destroyed and abandoned armor, Ukrainian forces, which comprised local volunteers and the professional military, eliminated most of a Russian battalion tactical group on March 2 and 3."

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However, that DOES NOT (all caps as you seem to be unable to take this information in) mean that Neo-Nazi's are widespread in the country, nor does it justify an illegal invasion.
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To further this point, the US military has quite the Neo-Nazi and white supremacist problem, like shockingly bad. Congress has even been made aware of it too in written testimony. It by no means indicates that even a majority of people in the US belong to those groups. Hell, even the UK military has apparent Neo-Nazis in its ranks too.

I bet if you look into almost any military, you're going to find Neo-Nazis and members of far-right extremist groups.

With regards to the Azov Battalion though, it probably makes more sense to have them in the military than letting them be a paramilitary group who are soldiers for hire, who could end up working for the enemy. However, someone with supposed knowledge of the Azov Battalion posted on Reddit stating that while the Battalion started as a Neo-Nazi group it's changed quite a bit over the years and is now more of a mix of people, even if they're all on the right side of the spectrum with strong nationalism. Take it with a grain of salt though, but I tend to agree that there probably isn't a battalion of 900 Neo-Nazis parading around Ukraine (and has incredible transportation capabilities too given that they are seemingly everywhere when Russia bombs a civilian target.
 
Ukrainian Armed forces seem to be benefitting from Nato standard nvgs that were supplied to them while Russia is only attacking in the day.

It seems Russia has only supplied nvgs to its special forces rather than arming with it all branches.
 
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@TexRex don't bring that garbage in here, we already know that brand has nothing useful to say concerning an actual serious world issue. It basically doesn't exist to many of our minds anymore and we'd like to keep it that way.
 
Keef
@TexRex don't bring that garbage in here, we already know that brand has nothing useful to say concerning an actual serious world issue. It basically doesn't exist to many of our minds anymore and we'd like to keep it that way.
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It doesn't cease to exist because you don't pay attention to it.

I want a spotlight shone on the rat ****ers. If you and anyone for whom you've chosen to speak in this moment want to be kept in the dark, I suspect you know what to do.
 
DQuaN
Whilst I still think you are following the Russian narative with plenty of confirmation bias. This needs to be looked at in depth as a matter of urgency.

Very few people seem to be able to look at this with a fully open view.
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So the nazis gathered a bunch of civilians in the theatre several days prior to detonating a bomb there, and told the population about their plans so that they could share it on Twitter long before the plan was executed? And nobody thought about talking to a journalist?

To be honest, this tweet makes it seem more likely to be a Russian false flag operation, first drop a tweet that predicts what will happen and then make it so. Is there any evidence to support what the tweet claims?
 
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Fifth-column, he's referring to the oligarchs? And "natural and necessary self-purification of society" when talking about traitors? :scared:

Had to share it from the r/Miami subreddit as the original video is from the /interestingas.... subreddit, so it naturally breaks AUP.
 
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Fifth-column, he's referring to the oligarchs? And "natural and necessary self-purification of society" when talking about traitors? :scared:

Had to share it from the r/Miami subreddit as the original video is from the /interestingas.... subreddit, so it naturally breaks AUP.
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Historically, such hyper-nationalist talk has typically been a dangerous thing leading up to terrible wars and millions of lives lost. But also, those events usually began with highly successful military campaigns. They've also taken place in times when it was very easy to block information from citizens.

Russia is literally all talk right now, unable to achieve success and unable to brainwash their people for the cause. Let's hope Putin doesn't go off the rails because things aren't going his way. Our military leaders seem pretty concerned by his level of frustration and continued rhetoric.
 
Now I want to watch Red Heat again. It's not a good movie, sure, but holy crap Gina Gershon.
 

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