Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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Did you know Canada has the 3rd most Ukrainians in the world after Ukraine and Russia.

Some famous Ukrainian Canadians: Wayne Gretzky (+ like 100 other hockey players), Alex Trebek, Seth Rogan, William Shatner, Tatiana Maslany (Black Orphan), Randy Bachman, Chrystia Freeland (current Minister of Foreign Affairs)
 
From Business Insider 4 hours ago.
Rumours are spreading that President Vladimir Putin, enraged by military setbacks in Ukraine, has launched a purge of some of Russia's most powerful officials.

On Thursday, reports in Ukrainian media claimed that Putin had fired Roman Gavrilov, the deputy chief of Rosgvardia, the Russian national guard.

Rosgvardia had deployed into Ukraine alongside the regular military and suffered heavy losses as Ukraine resisted with unexpected ferocity.

Christo Grozev, the lead Russia investigator for the outlet Bellingcat, said three sources confirmed the firing to him.

The Russian newspaper Kommersant meanwhile reported that Gavrilov had resigned.

One source told Bellingcat that Gavrilov was detained by the FSB's military counter-intelligence department over "leaks of military info that led to loss of life", while two others say it was "wasteful squandering of fuel."

The details of top-level moves in the Kremlin are difficult to confirm because of Russia's penchant for secrecy, the high costs of speaking out of turn, and the long campaign by Russia to destroy its independent media.

But even what can be seen suggests that all is not well in Putin's inner circle.
 
It's not Stalin's boy... it's exactly the opposite.
You don't know much history except the garbage you are taught in school,are you?
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Tomorrow they send me
Singing, 'I am an American'
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The "THE US HAS NO RIGHT TO CRITICIZE BECAUSE Middle Eastern War of some type of the past 50 years" arguments are so fascinating every time someone brings them up.



Like not only is it actually arguing "we should be beyond reproach to invade other countries too" instead, but it takes a truly staggering truck-sized suspension of disbelief because of the implication that goes with it of "and Russia had absolutely nothing to do with any of those things the US was doing."
 
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The "THE US HAS NO RIGHT TO CRITICIZE BECAUSE Middle Eastern War of some type of the past 50 years" arguments are so fascinating every time someone brings them up.



Like not only is it actually arguing "we should be beyond reproach to invade other countries too" instead, but it takes a truly staggering truck-sized suspension of disbelief because of the implication that goes with it of "and Russia had absolutely nothing to do with any of those things the US was doing."
Pretty sure that for every war not fought between Russia and the US, one (or both sides) were funded by Russia or the US.
 


Turkey's role in trying to balance both sides is going to come to an end. Why should Ukraine or Russia back down.
 
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I can see why the average Russian and Ukrainian dont want to fight as they are too close with each other.

Its like Turkey going to war with Azerbaijan or Australia going to war with New Zealand. Imagine USA and Canada going to war against each other.
 
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I prefer,

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Did you know Canada has the 3rd most Ukrainians in the world after Ukraine and Russia.

Some famous Ukrainian Canadians: Wayne Gretzky (+ like 100 other hockey players), Alex Trebek, Seth Rogan, William Shatner, Tatiana Maslany (Black Orphan), Randy Bachman, Chrystia Freeland (current Minister of Foreign Affairs)
I am half Ukrainian. Around 170,000 Ukrainians immigrated to Canada at the start of the 20th Century, mainly for the farming opportunities. My grandfather was one of them. Ukrainian Canadians are especially common in the Western and Prairie provinces.
 
Recent media reports indicate that the 2 hour meeting between Xi and Biden resulted only in threats of sanctions issued against China if it provides material support to Russian in any way, virtually a certainty. Elsewhere it is reported that 40,000 Syrian mercenaries are being airlifted to the battlefields. Even so, a peace agreement between the warring parties in the works may be scuppered by outside interests.
 
Recent media reports indicate that the 2 hour meeting between Xi and Biden resulted only in threats of sanctions issued against China if it provides material support to Russian in any way, virtually a certainty. Elsewhere it is reported that 40,000 Syrian mercenaries are being airlifted to the battlefields. Even so, a peace agreement between the warring parties in the works may be scuppered by outside interests.
Eh, China still seems like it's sticking to its guns of playing neutral & wanting the war to end, probably so it can get back to playing with both sides.
“He described the implications and consequences if China provides material support to Russia as it conducts brutal attacks against Ukrainian cities and civilians,” the readout continued. A readout from China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, however, said Xi told Biden “that China does not want to see the situation in Ukraine to come to this.” Xi also affirmed support for peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, according to the readout, which did not condemn Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

“All sides need to jointly support Russia and Ukraine in having dialogue and negotiation that will produce results and lead to peace,” the readout continued. “The US and NATO should also have dialogue with Russia to address the crux of the Ukraine crisis and ease the security concerns of both Russia and Ukraine.”

Both readouts noted that the two leaders told their teams to follow up on the conversation in the days ahead.
 
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Weird mix of Nazi Germany and imperialistic USSR. Propoganda is saying same bull**** that USSR newspapers said in 1939(Finland), 1968(Czechoslovakia), 1956(Hungary). Putin is quoting Hitler with his famous Националпредатель/Nationalverrater , previously this word was also used by terrorist/separatist Shamil Basayev and Georgian ex-president Saakashvili that sanctioned murder fest in Tskhinvali(2008). Current war looks like The Crimean War(1853) or The Russo-Japanese War(1904) when Russian Emperors Nicolai I and Nicolai II both start meaningless wars because of overestimating Russian army power.

If anyone interested in Russian history(and want to understand historical context of current events), my recommendation is to read this book. Never give a **** about those ages, but these book change my mind. IDK, how good adaptation of book in English, but in Russian its sooo gooood.

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a peace agreement between the warring parties in the works may be scuppered by outside interests.
There's only one 'warring party' here - Russia. Ukrainians are defending their sovereign territory against naked aggression and the most horrendous war crimes and atrocities.

Anyone who provides any type of support to Ukraine is entirely justified under international and humanitarian law.

Anyone who provides support to Putin's odious regime and military of any sort deserves to be held accountable and sanctioned accordingly.

If China does support Russia either financially, militarily, diplomatically or all of these, then it deserves all the international condemnation it gets. Supporting Putin in his criminal war against Ukraine is utterly repugnant.

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Meanwhile, a very public and very welcome slap in the face for Putin from some of Russia's finest - good on them.

 
Is it a show of solidarity with Ukraine or a show of support for Ukraine being part of Russia? It's a dumb thing to ask, I know.
 
Is it a show of solidarity with Ukraine or a show of support for Ukraine being part of Russia? It's a dumb thing to ask, I know.
I was wondering the same dumb thing myself.

In fact, I've been seeing this photo around and have been assuming it was the latter, before TM's post and tweet.
 
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Open to interpretation I guess.

The question I would have, is where did they get a yellow and blue space jumper? I assume they don't have a stock of different colored space jumpers just in case. It surely wasn't a decision made by those 3 cosmonauts alone either, someone in the higher rankings allowed it, and maybe even pushed for it.

The "THE US HAS NO RIGHT TO CRITICIZE BECAUSE Middle Eastern War of some type of the past 50 years" arguments are so fascinating every time someone brings them up.
The Middle East has always been prone to war since pretty much ever. With or without western interference, or from the USSR, they would still fight each other. Too many ideologies and fanaticism.

As for Israel, as someone mentioned in another post, they are not the problem. They've always been since their creation, hated by every neighbouring country. Then again, religious fanaticism has been the main problem.
 
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There's only one 'warring party' here - Russia.
Are you suggesting that any peace agreement signed between Ukraine and Russia would be invalid?

China is already a known supporter of the Russian regime. If the west issues sanctions to China resulting in kicking China out of international trade, it would seem a shattering blow to the world economy.
 
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