I doubt this is true. There is no single source on this except a Paint image.
If the internet is correct, we've reached this point in the war. Just try to overwhelm the Ukrainians with massive amount of cannon fodder. Those Western weapons need to get there faster, and in bigger numbers.
His father died fighting against fascism, and the son's only takeaway from it is that it's better to let them have what they want? Better to have millions die in subjugation since it's technically peacetime than to take up arms and dismantle such a regime?
What I said wasn't really supposed to be taken that seriously, I like distancing myself from people like Roger Waters because of how much of an unlikeable human being he has become.
Your arguments are coming across pretty suspicious here, as if winning WWII for the Allies at any cost wasn't absolutely essential for the survival of our civilization. Like the well documented world conquest mentality of Nazi Germany never existed. Even if we discounted the Holocaust (due to not necessarily being widely known about yet mid-war), that alone was a good enough reason why Nazis needed to die en masse for as long as it took to get the fight out of them. The same is true for Russians right now, unless you'd like to embolden them to go after more European countries next and cause even more death and destruction than if this behavior was beaten out of them right away in Ukraine. It may sound cruel, but every other method has outright been proven to not work - the gas deals always existed as a means to blackmail Western Europe into staying out of the war through a predatory energy dependency, and no pacifist approach ever got Kherson or the Kharkiv oblast liberated. Even with sanctions piling up, the bitches keep mobilizing more and more orcs to fight and die for nothing. Literally no sense will ever be beaten into that psychotic orc society except by killing them off until there's no choice left but to back down.
Photos of those airplanes:
NATO chief says Ukraine's ammunition use outstripping supply
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg says Ukraine is using up ammunition far faster than its allies can provide it just as Russia ramps up its military offensive.apnews.com
Different times I guess. Russian young men seem more willing to break their own leg instead of going to their graves in Donbas. That's why they need so many Wagner mercenaries. I think propaganda still takes it's toll but it's easier to get information from outside, which is bad for morale.
Of course, dear. They would never dehumanize themselves with the orc warfare they've practiced for a whole year now, it's all just Western propaganda that's out to make them look bad.
Lol, I have no problem accepting that someone with your views thinks my views are suspicious.
You yourself asked if there are wars where winning at any cost is necessary. WWII was one, the Ukraine invasion is another.
So you believe Ukraine is a war that has to be won at any cost, then why aren't you at the front line? "Any cost" includes you dying on Ukrainian soil for Ukrainian sovereignty. What excuse do you have for not doing that, despite saying that this war must be won at ANY cost?
Smells like gatekeeping. Only active participants in the war are now allowed to hope for total victory?
Good peace, yes. All thanks to the orcs and their refusal to back down to their own (uncontested) side of the border despite now being reduced to pathetic human wave tactics. My issue is with the likes of Waters advocating for literally any peace, including a supremely bad one where Ukraine is allowed to fall into the hands of an abusive ex-boyfriend despite its blatant desire to ally with the West, and the indiscriminate subjugation of Ukrainian civilians is enabled to continue unpunished.
I absolutely agree, he has undeniably made some fantastic music and the social commentary of which I largely agree with (again, except for the weird woman hating which I really just cant forgive) But for me, in recent years, he's just seemed like a bitter old man, which disappointed me a lot.
Ork is a great metaphor. Its not like West dehumanising them, its unholy war and evil propaganda. After war everyone should be threatened as human being - resocializated.
Reread whole discussion, please. Russian citizens and Russian federation are different things. Even Russians and Russian citizens are different things. Russian Federation should be banned. Russian citizens should be able to be part of civilized world, but after they made antiwar statements.
Many are trying by whatever means possible.
No. For - not the first time - you've sat behind your safe keyboard and said what you believe other people should be prepared to die for. You've again highlighted a goal, without attaching any cost to it.. do you believe that total victory comes at no cost.. and do you believe that because it's not your life on the line? How many lives would you trade, in a different country, for peace in that country?
At some point you have to acknowledge that price of peace is higher than the price of defeat. Where you find that limit is perhaps different to Waters.
Then it's a good thing modern NATO warfare doesn't rely on large numbers of forcefully conscripted soldiers, keeping the casualties to a relative minimum if **** were to hit the fan. In Ukraine though, without that direct intervention even if, say, 300k died while killing a million Russians to save 40 million Ukrainians from subjugation, that's still a massive improvement over a total surrender. (It also helps that Ukrainians themselves have no interest in a bad peace, either.) All because...
...all life really is not worth living, especially like this. "Different way of life" sounds quite uncomfortably like Russian propaganda, while the reality throughout the Donbas region has been indiscriminate and inhuman violence for no apparent reason other than a twisted power fantasy. They say occupied Mariupol already has had about 100k civilian casualties, so it's not like any lives have been saved whatsoever by giving that city up.
Not a listener, no.
Supposed?
Therein lies the rub - the goal is not merely to save lives, but to preserve freedom and quality of life.
Similarly, advocating for appeasement from the comfort of one's Swiss chalet or mansion in the Hamptons is all too easy - but again, where does one draw the line in determining what other populaces ought to "accept" as their way of life?MatskiMonk
