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Russian Invasion of Ukraine
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The entire Russian Olympic team. It's been well documented since 2014 and it's nothing new because it happens every Olympics. There are plenty of stories from former athletes about how they were treated during the Soviet Union area to make me believe that Russia has never been honest during any Olympics its participated in.
I'm not saying anything about the war, I'm saying they should be banned because of state-sponsored doping and cheating. Do all Russian athletes cheat? I doubt it, but when a curler is busted for doping it's likely doping is rampant among all the Russian Olympic athletes. Hell, even when they're not competing under the Russian flag, the athletes dope. Look at figure skater Kamila Valieva who absolutely was doping in 2022.
So no, I don't think we should ban them for making anti-war statements, but they shouldn't even be allowed to compete to begin with and that should've started, at a minimum, in 2014.
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There is no such thing like consistent
Its individual athletes. For the most part youngsters.
And why Russian athletes should be banned then? Its same logic that Kremlin operates right now - some individuals from Azov battalion in 2014 were neo-nazis, which means that everyone in Azov battalion in 2022 was neo-nazi. In 2023 its all civilized world declared full of gay nazis.
Someone should do his job and bust those who dope. If its 90% of athletes from Russia - okay. Thats how civilized world should operate - everyone should be thread as a person.
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Fine, the "Russian Olympic Committee." They're still state-sponsored athletes, just without a Russia flag on their uniforms.
Age has nothing to do with it. Kamila Valieva was 16.
That's quite a stretch. Russian athletes, across multiple disciplines, for several years, have been busted for doping. There are also state-sponsored programs to cheat and get around doping regulations. It stands to reason when the country paying you to be an athlete is cheating and doping, that it's likely a majority of athletes are doing just that since their employer is bankrolling it.
Russia's justification for the Azov battalion was that some members were Neo-Nazis, so they were just going to kill innocent people, commit war crimes, and invade sovereign land.
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State sponsored athletes that claiming Russian war crimes?
Could we say that 16 year girl intentionally put some dope in her veins? Clearly, she is another victim of state-sponsored criminal activity.
You just suggesting to ruin lifegoal of young russian athletes. And give Russian citizens reason to support Putins antigaynazi crusade.
Same logic, bro. Collective responsibility is ****ed concept.
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Where have I mentioned war crimes? Russia, the country, is sponsoring cheating and doping among its athletes. Russian athletes don't belong in international competitions because of it. It has nothing to do with the war. They shouldn't need to be banned for Russia committing war crimes because they shouldn't be allowed to compete in the first place. Maybe this is a language barrier, I don't know.
Good, let their athletic careers be ruined. If you're an athlete competing at an international level, you know what is and what isn't allowed.
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Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters Addresses U.N. Security Council About Russian Invasion of Ukraine
At the invitation of Russian diplomats, he claimed to speak for “voiceless millions” and said the war was “not unprovoked”
Nice to know that Waters has graduated to full-on "Agent of Russia." Wonder if he hangs out with Steven Seagal in his time away from touring. Do they record music together?
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At least now there's a reason to actually cancel Pink Floyd.Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters Addresses U.N. Security Council About Russian Invasion of Ukraine
At the invitation of Russian diplomats, he claimed to speak for “voiceless millions” and said the war was “not unprovoked”pitchfork.com
Nice to know that Waters has graduated to full-on "Agent of Russia." Wonder if he hangs out with Steven Seagal in his time away from touring. Do they record music together?
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Disgustingly bad take from Samson, and Gilmour is a complete muppet.
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Banned as a country? All we have is this "This is not Russia, this is ROC wink wink " nonsense.
Russia has been found guilty of state organized doping. Then the country has decided to make amends by killing people by the hundreds of thousands.
For the next decades, Russian people will be considered plague-ridden in most developed countries, unless they proves otherwise. If an Olympic Games total ban help them to acknowledge that fact, so be it.
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... and art.
Apparently Roger Waters has secretly been re-recording an entirely new version of "Dark Side Of The Moon" from scratch, unknown to Gilmour and Mason, and plans to release it shortly...
Roger Waters Says He's Re-Recording 'The Dark Side of the Moon' -- Without Pink Floyd
Roger Waters said he has been re-recording the 1973 "The Dark Side of the Moon" album—without the help of his ex-Pink Floyd bandmates
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Its copium. Neutral flag thing is a biiiig middle finger to Putler and turbopatriots.
Is there something like these after Yugoslavian massacre? I don't think so. For the most part, almost everyone ok with Serbs. We all should keep in mind that less than 1% of our population actually participate in war. Sure, war criminals should go to jail and we as a country should pay for what our government did.
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I've got three different vinyl pressings, the cd and SACD of DSOTM.... and art.
Apparently Roger Waters has secretly been re-recording an entirely new version of "Dark Side Of The Moon" from scratch, unknown to Gilmour and Mason, and plans to release it shortly...
Roger Waters Says He's Re-Recording 'The Dark Side of the Moon' -- Without Pink Floyd
Roger Waters said he has been re-recording the 1973 "The Dark Side of the Moon" album—without the help of his ex-Pink Floyd bandmates
Yeah I think this one will be skipped.
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