Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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Joey D
Do you want to find out? Because this is how you find out:
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Russian pilots tried to 'dogfight' US jets over Syria, US Central Command says | CNN

Russian pilots tried to "dogfight" US jets over Syria, according to a spokesman for US Central Command, part of a recent pattern of more aggressive behavior.
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In the long run Serbia will be the biggest loser in this war.

Not only they believe being allied with Russia and China will pay off now their biggest ally which is Russia weakening will never come to their aid. Serbia gambled too much being with Russia.

Now with Bosnia and Kosovo becoming more closer to Nato.

Serbia is going to feel more isolated even if they are not backing Russia in this but most Serbs support Russia.
 
SestoScudo
In the long run Serbia will be the biggest loser in this war.
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Lol, no:
1) cheap Russian oil
2) massive amount of Russian IT emigrated in Serbia
3) Serbia replace chunk of Russian weaponry export
4) Serbian government already trying to become closer with European/USA governments and NATO. It was almost impossible few years ago considering post war trauma of Serbian population. Right now Serbian government could sell picture of Russian impotence and lesser evil of joining NATO/EU.
 
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News from swamps:
Fellow Russians keep bringing flowers to Ukrainian-related memorials all over the country. Police and public utility companies trying to stop it, but without success.

Our MoD recruiting "soliders" from prisons, earlier same recruiting tactic was used only by 'Vagner". Estimated number for April around 10k.

Prigojin said that counterattack of Ukraine would start next week. Also, he once again complaining about lack of ammo and said that if supply wouldn't be better his PMC would be unable to participate in war.

Victory day(May 9) would be a thing, but without aviation. In some regions military parades were cancelled, but in Moscow and SPB its still a thing.
 
inCloud
News from swamps:
Fellow Russians keep bringing flowers to Ukrainian-related memorials all over the country. Police and public utility companies trying to stop it, but without success.

Our MoD recruiting "soliders" from prisons, earlier same recruiting tactic was used only by 'Vagner". Estimated number for April around 10k.

Prigojin said that counterattack of Ukraine would start next week. Also, he once again complaining about lack of ammo and said that if supply wouldn't be better his PMC would be unable to participate in war.

Victory day(May 9) would be a thing, but without aviation. In some regions military parades were cancelled, but in Moscow and SPB its still a thing.
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They can use it as an excuse for sending the tanks to Finnish border.
 
UN resolution 77/L65 - Cooperation between the United Nations and the Council of Europe
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Recognizing also that the unprecedented challenges now facing Europe
following the aggression by the Russian Federation against Ukraine, and against
Georgia prior to that, and the cessation of the membership of the Russian Federation
in the Council of Europe, call for strengthened cooperation between the United
Nations and the Council of Europe, notably in order to promptly restore and maintain
peace and security based on respect of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and
political independence of any State, ensure the observance of human rights and
international humanitarian law during the hostilities, provide r edress to victims and
bring to justice all those responsible for the violations of international law,
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Eunos_Cosmo
Wait...China didn't abstain? They've really been going out of their way the last few weeks to not be the bad guy.
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That's what happens when you piss off both your main money providers with threats of spreading nuckes around the Globe. Right after one of them said to everyone that situation under control. Mastermind.
 
I am more inclinced to believe in Russian false flags in this instance rather than a direct, willful attack by Ukraine.

The train sabotages being done by Ukrainian partisans or disaffected Russians I can believe though.
 
Liquid
I am more inclinced to believe in Russian false flags in this instance rather than a direct, willful attack by Ukraine.
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Well, someone sending drones for months, bunch already hit ground in Moscow outskirts. I don't see why would RF perform false flag actions like this.
 
Looks like the Kremlin is getting ready for that 9-th of May Victory Parade.



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Strange that it happened at night but it's 3 p.m. and the news just started to appear.
 
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I have a hard time believing the following:

A - That a state actor (Ukraine) would launch this 'attack' expecting it to be successful (Come on, a UAV attack against the Kremlin?)
B - If they were not expecting it to be successful, that it would be a good idea (You can't attack the capitol of Russia without blowback)
C - That Russia would launch a false flag attack on such a symbolically important part of Russian culture.

I'm certain that Russia will retaliate strongly here. I can't see Russia staging an attack on such a significant piece of Russian culture...However, I don't see the angle for Ukraine to have done this, unless provoking a response ahead of a counteroffensive to either reveal something or deplete weapons is the goal...feels more like a Russian opposition group launching a proverbial hail Mary.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
I have a hard time believing the following:

A - That a state actor (Ukraine) would launch this 'attack' expecting it to be successful (Come on, a UAV attack against the Kremlin?)
B - If they were not expecting it to be successful, that it would be a good idea (You can't attack the capitol of Russia without blowback)
C - That Russia would launch a false flag attack on such a symbolically important part of Russian culture.

I'm certain that Russia will retaliate strongly here. I can't see Russia staging an attack on such a significant piece of Russian culture...However, I don't see the angle for Ukraine to have done this, unless provoking a response ahead of a counteroffensive to either reveal something or deplete weapons is the goal...feels more like a Russian opposition group launching a proverbial hail Mary.
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We had a hard time believing Russia would have this much trouble 14+ months in against a country that if they even remotely prepared for, would have had better success against.

Russia already attacked Kyiv, they shouldn't be surprised that someone targeted their capital.
 
The Moscow drone is obviously a false flag operation, evident by the fact it was filmed by a hand-held camera conveniently pointing directly to the point where the drone would appear and then explode, as if they knew what was about to happen and where it would happen. A genuine eye-witness would have panned the camera to follow the drone.

You can also see a couple of people on the roof of the building. Did they have the trigger for the explosives? And as for the explosion, it looks more like a Hollywood explosion rather than anything an anti air missile would produce.
 
eran0004
The Moscow drone is obviously a false flag operation
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If so, main question is why. No benefits for Kremlin, only discreditation of Russian capabilities to defend themselves against garage built drones. Last time **** like this happen - Soviet Union collapsed.
 
eran0004
And as for the explosion, it looks more like a Hollywood explosion rather than anything an anti air missile would produce.
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Agreed, that was a seriously a pathetic looking explosion.

I agree it's a false flag thing to either justify using more destructive weapons against Ukraine, bolster a reason for using tactile nuclear weapons, get sympathy from places like China, or just attempt to further brainwash the population that the threat is real. Whatever the case, I feel like if Ukraine was going to launch a counter offensive, they'd be a bit more aggressive in their efforts.
 
inCloud
If so, main question is why. No benefits for Kremlin, only discreditation of Russian capabilities to defend themselves against garage built drones. Last time **** like this happen - Soviet Union collapsed.
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To facilitate an escalation of the war, probably.

There is no sign of an anti air missile on the footage, so the detonation was likely triggered remotely. The event was captured very nicely on handheld camera by a photographer who didn’t pan to follow the drone (which I would do if I witnessed something like this) but instead waited at the exact location where the explosion was going to occur.

(Edit: It appears the footage was filmed off-screen, so the original video may not have been hand-held.)

The event takes place one week ahead of May 9th, making it easier for Putin to claim that Russia is under attack again and boosting the internal support of the war.
 
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