Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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Russian Z-channels saying that Ukraian offence begins.
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I heard that tank had an accident when they tried to load it on a truck after the parade. Allegedly it fell off the truck and rolled over.
Nah, it was an old video, the tank is missing some stickers on the turret. YouTube has it uploaded a year ago or so, so probably from last year.
 
2 mi-8 heli and 1 SU-34 fighter-bomber were down by long range AA or UA spec ops in Brianskaya.obl, RF.

+SU-35
The Internet is sort of reporting that they've been downed by Russia's own defences.
 
Cockroach is back after performing human shield role at Victory day parade. Doesn't look good.

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I guess the tradeoff for taking the "easy" route to developing hypersonic missiles is that they don't really have the evasion abilities of true hypersonic missiles. On paper, it was impressive that Russia had hypersonics in service and the USA didn't, but when you realize the Kinzhal is just a boosted ballistic missile that can be shot down with sophisticated but ordinary air defenses, you see that maybe the US's troubled hypersonic program might actually prove to be a win in the long run.
 
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Tomorrow they'll say that they destroyed all existing Patriot components in Ukraine with one missile?
 
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The one thing I've learned in this conflict is that Russia embellishes everything. The US government isn't the bastion of truth, but when it comes to the two sides spinning the same issue, I'm going to guess the version as told by the US is closer to the truth.

Relatedly, I'm guessing that Russia really does not want to field any Zircon air breathing missiles in this conflict...probably because they don't/won't work. That would be embarassing.
 
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Considering that Russia threw their whole ass kitchen sink at it (is this the biggest actual test of its abilities a Patriot battery has ever had?), to come away with minor damage by any standard is super impressive. From my understanding Russia might not even have many more Kinzhals left unless they start tapping into their ones intended for nuclear deterrence, so Putin set off a hundred million dollar fireworks display to do... what? Damage a single launcher? Even if the US is lying, Russia certainly didn't "completely destroy 5 launchers and the radar system" if field repairs are all that is needed.
 
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Considering that Russia threw their whole ass kitchen sink at it (is this the biggest actual test of its abilities a Patriot battery has ever had?), to come away with minor damage by any standard is super impressive. From my understanding Russia might not even have many more Kinzhals left unless they start tapping into their ones intended for nuclear deterrence, so Putin set off a hundred million dollar fireworks display to do... what? Damage a single launcher? Even if the US is lying, Russia certainly didn't "completely destroy 5 launchers and the radar system" if field repairs are all that is needed.
I think they are low on Kalibr's as well, which might be why they have started using the Kinzhals more frequently. That and desperation.
 
Criteria of treason in our country is almost every partnership with other country. After capturing "traitor" ФСБ agent will get money bonus and promotion. Considering every treason case is classified, our court scared of ФСБ and our losing country infected with spy mania there is no way to prevent false accusations.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller
 
I guess the tradeoff for taking the "easy" route to developing hypersonic missiles is that they don't really have the evasion abilities of true hypersonic missiles. On paper, it was impressive that Russia had hypersonics in service and the USA didn't, but when you realize the Kinzhal is just a boosted ballistic missile that can be shot down with sophisticated but ordinary air defenses, you see that maybe the US's troubled hypersonic program might actually prove to be a win in the long run.
If the greatest engineers on the planet can't figure out how to make it work properly it bodes well for the status and effectiveness of adversary units. Our rail gun for example...we put a crap ton of money and time into that thing and couldn't figure out how to keep it from destroying itself. Unlikely anybody else has gotten further with it.
 
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