Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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1) Putin was confident that RF army would roll to the Kiev in few hours and general population of russian speaking cities would be happy about it. Same idea was in mind of soliders and was spread through TV. Crimia style.
2) our army stuck in Ukraine, first two days there were results, but in next three initiative was lost. Somehow even Mariupol fighting.
3) Russia is pariah state, even for China.
4) Rumours about casualties spreading fast, for whatever reason regime didnt prepare for this by blocking independent media.
5) ₽ is ******.
6) Even most brainwashed russians start feeling that something isnt right.
7) Elite panicking. Business making pacifist statements.
8) He cant just go away from Ukraine, it would make him loser in the eyes of russians and kill him. Its always was zero-sum game for him(even if in reality its not).
9) As always, propaganda trying to blame evil West. As always, propaganda spreading zero-sum game mentality. Its working for people raised in USSR(median age is 40).

From what you see around you, do you believe some kind of people's revolution is possible?

Right now, how do you see this ending?

 

[mika haka]

From what you see around you, do you believe some kind of people's revolution is possible?

Right now, how do you see this ending?

It looks like putin will get his wish and bring russia back to the soviet era. Just a shame it will be the 1990 soviet era when thier economy was broke.

 

[inCloud]

From what you see around you, do you believe some kind of people's revolution is possible?

Right now, how do you see this ending?

Nope. We are European country with old population, revolution is almost impossible in that kind of countries. On the other hand, current situation is pure madness and was impossible 5 days ago. Russia - meaningless and merciless, as we call it.

If you ask me, I can't see any other future for our counties other than freedom and democracy. Because I love my country.

It looks like putin will get his wish and bring russia back to the soviet era. Just a shame it will be the 1990 soviet era when thier economy was broke.

Nah

 

[mika haka]

Already happening. Your economy has collapsed and queues are forming at your banks. Interest rates doubled overnight.

If you were smart you would get your savings before they are frozen by your bank.

 

[SestoScudo]

Rumours of a Ukrainian TB2 Drone striking Kadirovs convoy.

 

[inCloud]

Already happening. Your economy has collapsed and queues are forming at your banks. Interest rates doubled overnight.

If you were smart you would get your savings before they are frozen by your bank.

Another exaggeration. Its little bit funny when foreigner saying whats happening in my country with my money

 

[Dennisch]

Zelensky has asked the EU for immediate membership. It would be wise to act and make Ukraine a member.

 

[swinny]

Another exaggeration. Its little bit funny when foreigner saying whats happening in my country with my money

Another exaggeration. Its little bit funny when foreigner saying whats happening in my country with my money

I think he may be giving you some good advice.

 

[SestoScudo]

Eu transfering MIGs is a smart move.

Selling Eurofighters or Rafales wont work as Ukraine has to invest in its training, infantstructure and maintence which will take years until Ukraine has a operational fleet of European jets. Same story with American jets.

Ukraine usea lots of Soviet and its own domestic equipment only begun nato standard reforms in the 2010s. It will take decades.

 

[Scaff]

Ukrainian sailor tries to sink oligarchs yacht in Majorca.

The yacht belongs to head of a Russian state arms firm.

Ukrainian sailor in Majorca tried to sink yacht of Russian boss

The man told a judge in Majorca that he had wanted to retaliate for the invasion of Ukraine.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Hun200kmh]

Emotional moment yesterday at a football match in Portugal

 

[Touring Mars]

Zelensky has asked the EU for immediate membership. It would be wise to act and make Ukraine a member.

Well, short of immediate NATO membership, that is probably the one move that will rattle Putin's cage the most, and I expect it could potentially derail the talks that are supposedly happening right now.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Nope. We are European country with old population, revolution is almost impossible in that kind of countries. On the other hand, current situation is pure madness and was impossible 5 days ago. Russia - meaningless and merciless, as we call it.

If you ask me, I can't see any other future for our counties other than freedom and democracy. Because I love my country.

I hope everything works out for you, yours and all Russians that did not want this. As much as I love seeing sanctions having the desired impact I have no wish in seeing the Russian population suffer.

 

[Liquid]

Well, short of immediate NATO membership, that is probably the one move that will rattle Putin's cage the most, and I expect it could potentially derail the talks that are supposedly happening right now.

I don't think many people believe in Putin's sincerity over "peace talks" anyway. Nothing he says or does is even remotely honest or compromising. He himself is the sole reason anybody, Ukraine or otherwise, will do what it needs to do to survive.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Question for the Russians in the thread.

If Putin get's taken out, either fatally, or just politically, who takes over, and what's their stance likely to be? Or is something of a civil war likely?

 

[SestoScudo]

Question for the Russians in the thread.

If Putin get's taken out, either fatally, or just politically, who takes over, and what's their stance likely to be? Or is something of a civil war likely?

A civil war is the least thing that any Russian would want. I doubt the world would want it either.

Russia descending into a civil war will have great ramifications on this planet. Russian Civil war counts as one of the deadliest wars of the 20th century.

Forget the African or Middle Eastern civil wars this would be civil war on steroids lets not forget nuclear weapons.

 

[Touring Mars]

Question for the Russians in the thread.

If Putin get's taken out, either fatally, or just politically, who takes over, and what's their stance likely to be? Or is something of a civil war likely?

Good question.

I was going to post the other day about the risk of Russia collapsing, either economically, socially or politically, as the consequences of that would be absolutely dire.

Whatever solution can be found to resolve this current crisis, it will have to ensure that Russia remains intact - but that will not be easy when Putin seems hell bent on gambling the farm on Russian expansionism.

 

[inCloud]

I think he may be giving you some good advice.

Panic isnt the option.

hope everything works out for you, yours and all Russians that did not want this. As much as I love seeing sanctions having the desired impact I have no wish in seeing the Russian population suffer.

Thx. We need those sanctions to start moving to freedom and peace. Cure isnt tasty, but its better than long agony of stagnation.

 

[Rage Racer]

Have anyone heard that the defenders of Snake Island are actually alive? Because they surrendered.

Earlier, the Russian MoD had published videos of them being transported to Crimea as POWs. And now, the Ukrainian Navy officially confirmed this. Despite of Zelenskiy giving them medals posthumously. When the war ends, they’ll go back to their families… and probably get their medals.

 

[MaxAttack]

Have anyone heard that the defenders of Snake Island are actually alive? Because they surrendered.

Earlier, the Russian MoD had published videos of them being transported to Crimea as POWs. And now, the Ukrainian Navy officially confirmed this. Despite of Zelenskiy giving them medals posthumously. When the war ends, they’ll go back to their families… and probably get their medals.

Yeah I have seen this floating around - I don't suppose it's entirely too presumptuous to give posthumous medals if all the news you have is that there was a standoff and then a bombardment, and then you've heard nothing from that position.

That said it's absolutely a huge part of this conflict what's being fed into the news and what spin you can put on individual stories as they go out - Ukraine seems to be doing a pretty good job in this narrative war.

EDIT: I hasten to add that it'd be a massive stretch to call surrendering a basically indefensible rock to a potential naval bombardment cowardly, or falling short of duty, hence such a high honour being handed down in the first place.

 

[dacc10]

In the short term they will be getting more MiG's, but I'm sure in the long term they will want to turn away from Russian aircraft. This war will hopefully be too short lived to see the Ukrainian military convert to Western hardware, but I think after the war Ukraine will definitely be seeking US and European weapons.

Oh for sure. Though right now we are focusing on the short term. Hopefully Ukraine ends up an independent state, able to choose whatever they feel suits them the best, after this conflict.

 

[inCloud]

Question for the Russians in the thread.

If Putin get's taken out, either fatally, or just politically, who takes over, and what's their stance likely to be? Or is something of a civil war likely?

Hard to say. Mishustin or Sobianin from current regime, Navalniy from opposition. Ideally, we will get rid of president as leader and swap to parliamentary federation.

Navalniy as president could be shocking, but his program is great.

Both Mishustin and Sobianin are nothing special, but anyone without paranoia about NATO and Ukrainian nationalists will be Ok.

Actually, we could see something like Ukrainian scenario when popular media person becoming president. Sobchiac as example.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Ideally, we will get rid of president as leader and swap to parliamentary federation.

Is that kind of constitutional change possible simply by removing Putin?

 

[inCloud]

Is that kind of constitutional change possible simply by removing Putin?

Referendum needed, afaik.

 

[Imari]

Hard to say. Mishustin or Sobianin from current regime, Navalniy from opposition. Ideally, we will get rid of president as leader and swap to parliamentary federation.

Navalniy as president could be shocking, but his program is great.

Both Mishustin and Sobianin are nothing special, but anyone without paranoia about NATO and Ukrainian nationalists will be Ok.

Actually, we could see something like Ukrainian scenario when popular media person becoming president. Sobchiac as example.

Isn't Navalniy still in prison?

 

[inCloud]

Isn't Navalniy still in prison?

If Putin get's taken out, either fatally, or just politically, who takes over, and what's their stance likely to be? Or is something of a civil war likely?

Yeap.

 

[Keef]

Some very low flying Su-34s



That's not exactly their standard mission profile. Then again, I guess you wouldn't expect the B-1 to be used as a low altitude penetrator either.

 

[Liquid]

I think it's incredible that Volodomyr Zelenskij, a non-professional politician, a last-minute darkhorse candidate, the "joke" candidate, has suddenly been thrusted into the position of one of the most widely respected politicians and leaders in the world. His bravery so far, in the face of the colossus that is Vladimir Putin's Russian Federation, has been absolutely astonishing.

 

[Joey D]

I'm guessing @Keef might have the best insight here, but with pretty much all of Europe closing off airspace to Russia, how does that work exactly? I mean I can't imagine any country outside Russia and Iran wanting to be responsible for downing a passenger airliner, so do they just scramble fighters and proceed to use a show of force against the plane or what?

 

[lancia delta hf]

Not gonna comment on actual events but once again we see how garbage the media generally are. All rush to be the first to report a story without any regard if it's true or heaven forbid footage from a damn video game! I didn't for 1 second believe the story about the 13 Ukrainians dying on that island. It just seemed pointless to give up your life so cheaply that the story didnt seem believable, but the media couldn't wait to push that story. The propaganda for this war is gonna be intense.