Satanism, and you.

[Swift]

It means you have a choice to do whatever you want, it doesn't mean you have to be greedy. That's the point you're missing.

I didn't say it made you greedy. I said it makes the person the center of the universe. Everythign you would do revolves around you. Would that be a correct assesment?

 

[PS]

I didn't say it made you greedy. I said it makes the person the center of the universe. Everythign you would do revolves around you. Would that be a correct assesment?

No.

 

[Swift]

No.

Then what would be?

 

[PS]

Then what would be?

A correct assessment would be to say that Satanism is a "religion" where one must take responsiblity for his/her own actions, and be held accountable for them should the make a poor choice.

 

[Swift]

A correct assessment would be to say that Satanism is a "religion" where one must take responsiblity for his/her own actions, and be held accountable for them should the make a poor choice.

Ok, so how can you make a bad choice as long as it benifits you?

 

[PS]

Ok, so how can you make a bad choice as long as it benifits you?

It could have hurt or infringed on the rights/freedoms of another person. Not everyone has perfect judegment, you know. What are you getting at? It seemed like a rather obvious or juvenile post you made there.

[edit]

And I never said you made choices based only on what benefits you. Quit putting words into my mouth and making assumptions.

 

[Swift]

It could have hurt or infringed on the rights/freedoms of another person. Not everyone has perfect judegment, you know. What are you getting at? It seemed like a rather obvious or juvenile post you made there.

[edit]

And I never said you made choices based only on what benefits you. Quit putting words into my mouth and making assumptions.

I'm not putting words into your mouth. I'm trying to get you to tell me about this philosophy of satanism.

So the only rule in satanism is don't infringe on teh rights of others?

 

[PS]

I'm not putting words into your mouth. I'm trying to get you to tell me about this philosophy of satanism.

So the only rule in satanism is don't infringe on teh rights of others?

Did I ever say that?! No!


Holy crap, man. I already posted 5 of them, or did you mysteriously fly by them?

 

[Swift]

Did I ever say that?! No!


Holy crap, man. I already posted 5 of them, or did you mysteriously fly by them?

Actually you sent me a PM.

III When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there.


V Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

VI Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the person and he cries out to be relieved.

VIII Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

IX Do not harm little children.

X Do not kill non-human animals unless attacked or for your food.

V has incredible gray area

VI has incredible gray area

X you have already claimed not to follow.

 

[PS]

Actually you sent me a PM.

...and I never said it was only for your own gain.

V has incredible gray area

Seems pretty straitfoward, if not worded a little funny.

VI has incredible gray area

Also pretty strait-forward. What's not to get about "don't take something that isn't yours unless they say it's ok"?

X you have already claimed not to follow.

I didn't claim I didn't follow that. I said I held animals as equal as I can, and within as much reason as possible. Then you threw that "...if an animal ran in front of your car..." rhetoric/BS at me.

 

[Swift]

I didn't claim I didn't follow that. I said I held animals as equal as I can, and within as much reason as possible. Then you threw that "...if an animal ran in front of your car..." rhetoric/BS at me.

How is it rhetorical? It's a very possible very common situation.

Also pretty strait-forward. What's not to get about "don't take something that isn't yours unless they say it's ok"?

Unless you really really need it? The bible says thou shalt not steal. That says don't steal unless...

 

[PS]

How is it rhetorical? It's a very possible very common situation.

You posed it just to force me into a corner where I'd have to concede killing an animal, or taking damage to my car and the occupants within it.

Unless you really really need it? The bible says thou shalt not steal. That says don't steal unless...

No...it says "don't take that which does not belong to you", which is different from stealing. If you see a $5 bill on the ground, and you pick it up, is it stealing? No. Someone must've accidentally dropped it there. But are you taking something that doesn't belong to you? Yes. You're totally misinterpreting this on purpose.

 

[Swift]

You posed it just to force me into a corner where I'd have to concede killing an animal, or taking damage to my car and the occupants within it.





No...it says "don't take that which does not belong to you", which is different from stealing. If you see a $5 bill on the ground, and you pick it up, is it stealing? No. Someone must've accidentally dropped it there. But are you taking something that doesn't belong to you? Yes. You're totally misinterpreting this on purpose.

What I'm getting at is you've been telling me for a month that things aren't so black and white. But the rules of satanism are very black and white. So which is it?

Also, I didn't back you into a corner. I made you defend what you believe. If you're not willing to do that then don't give your opinion.

 

[PS]

What I'm getting at is you've been telling me for a month that things aren't so black and white. But the rules of satanism are very black and white. So which is it?

It is black and white, you're just getting it mixed up with white and black.

People choose their words carefully for a reason, you know. Anton LeVey was like that.

[edit]

And this thread has been open for 10 days, not a month. No wonder you got 6000 out of 2 billion.

 

[Swift]

And this thread has been open for 10 days, not a month. No wonder you got 6000 out of 2 billion.

What are you talking about?

Oh, I was talking aboutin other threads with religion as the topic.

 

[PS]

What are you talking about?

Oh, I was talking aboutin other threads with religion as the topic.

I was making a joke: 10 days < month.

6000 year < 2 billion.

 

[Swift]

I was making a joke: 10 days < month.

6000 year < 2 billion.

I actually figured it out once I looked at what I posted.

 

[PS]

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Refer to below \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

 

[PS]

The Illuminati were Satanic. But not in a modern sense. Most people picture satanic cults as devil-worshipping fiends, and yet Satanists historically were educated men who stood as adversaries to the church. Shaitan. The rumours of satanic black-magic animal sacrifices and the pentagram ritual were nothing but lies spread by the church as a smear campaign against their adversaries. Over time, opponents of the church, wanting to emulate the Illuminati, began believing the lies and acting them out. Thus, thanks to the church, modern Satanism was born. Good job.

The Illuminati were survivors of prosecution. they fled Rome, from the church, and travelled across Europe looking for a place to regroup. The Illuminati grew more powerfull in Europe, and set their sites on America. They had infiltrations, among which were George Washington and Ben Franklin. Their ultimate goal was...a "New World Order", based on scientific enlightenment. they called it their "Luciferian Doctrine"—the church claimed Lucifer was a reference to the devil, but the brotherhood insisted Lucifer was intended in its literal Latin meaning—bringer of light, or "Illuminator".

Also, the cross doesn't even belong to Christians. The Nazis took the Swastika from the Hindus, and the Christians took the cross from the Egyptians.

Random Facts: Christian Heritage Fund harbored one of the worlds most wanted terrorist neo-Nazi/racists.

The U.S. Christian Coalition if the most influential lobby against scientific progress in the world.

Almost half the schools in USA are banned from teaching evolution.




I've also got false and defamatory accusation reprints against Marilyn Manson & Satanism from The American Family Association, The 700 Club, and other minor Christian organizations from all over the USA.

And that, kiddies, is why I have endorsed Satanism.

 

[Swift]

Also, the cross doesn't even belong to Christians. The Nazis took the Swastika from the Hindus, and the Christians took the cross from the Egyptians.

What?!?! The Cross was where Jesus died. It was the most torturous form of execution at the time. What are you talking about with Egyptians? It has nothing to do with heritage or country of origin. It's simple the intrument of execution.

 

[PS]

What?!?! The Cross was where Jesus died. It was the most torturous form of execution at the time. What are you talking about with Egyptians? It has nothing to do with heritage or country of origin. It's simple the intrument of execution.

When Christianity was in its' birth they used the Cross as a symbol after the Egyptians had 3000 years before.

 

[Swift]

When Christianity was in its' birth they used the Cross as a symbol after the Egyptians had 3000 years before.

I'm not understanding the point. You're saying that Christians copied the Egyptians?

 

[PS]

I'm not understanding the point. You're saying that Christians copied the Egyptians?

Egyptians used the cross as a symbol before Christianity did. Just like the Hindus used the swastika as a symbol before the Nazi's did.

 

[Grand Prix]

Egyptians used the cross as a symbol before Christianity did. Just like the Hindus used the swastika as a symbol before the Nazi's did.

Some Native American groups use the Swastika as well. Ironically enough, the Swastika was probably one of the most peaceful and happy symbols around before it was used by the Nazis. It is essentially four 'L's, set in a counter clockwise direction. The four Ls stand for "Life", "Light", "Love", and "Luck".

Some groups still insist on using the Swastika as a good symbol. Although they now use the clockwise Swastika, as opposed to the original symbol which was ruined by the association with the Nazi Party.

 

[Chris Hendriks]

The Illuminati were Satanic. But not in a modern sense. Most people picture satanic cults as devil-worshipping fiends, and yet Satanists historically were educated men who stood as adversaries to the church. Shaitan. The rumours of satanic black-magic animal sacrifices and the pentagram ritual were nothing but lies spread by the church as a smear campaign against their adversaries. Over time, opponents of the church, wanting to emulate the Illuminati, began believing the lies and acting them out. Thus, thanks to the church, modern Satanism was born. Good job.

The Illuminati were survivors of prosecution. they fled Rome, from the church, and travelled across Europe looking for a place to regroup. The Illuminati grew more powerfull in Europe, and set their sites on America. They had infiltrations, among which were George Washington and Ben Franklin. Their ultimate goal was...a "New World Order", based on scientific enlightenment. they called it their "Luciferian Doctrine"—the church claimed Lucifer was a reference to the devil, but the brotherhood insisted Lucifer was intended in its literal Latin meaning—bringer of light, or "Illuminator".

I think u might want to consider where these quotes came from, i wouldn't base my opinions on what Dan Brown wrote in a fictional novel(these are quotes from Robert Langdon's first adventure in Angels and Demons if I'm not mistaken).

 

[Chris Hendriks]

I'm not understanding the point. You're saying that Christians copied the Egyptians?

I also believe that the Halo was "Borrowed" from the egyptian culture, it was originally a a Sun Disc worn on the head of the egyptian god Ra.Its been a long day and i'm tired, so my info may not be 100%, but its as close its gonna get

 

[PS]

I think u might want to consider where these quotes came from, i wouldn't base my opinions on what Dan Brown wrote in a fictional novel(these are quotes from Robert Langdon's first adventure in Angels and Demons if I'm not mistaken).

That's why I asked if anyone had read the book first.

 

[PS]

May I ask, what do we celebrate Christmas for?

 

[Grand Prix]

May I ask, what do we celebrate Christmas for?

To receive presents?

 

[Swift]

May I ask, what do we celebrate Christmas for?

The date of December 25 is actually a pagan holiday. However, since they were so busy with that, Christians were able to have there own celebration. It's beyond obvious that Jesus was born in the springtime. However, Christmas is the celebration of christ's birth into our carnal world.

Egyptians used the cross as a symbol before Christianity did. Just like the Hindus used the swastika as a symbol before the Nazi's did.

So what are you saying?