Sciaru BRZFRS (BreezeFrees)
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It's like a GTA/L.A. Noire cut scene. Unfortunately you can't just press 'X' to skip it (unless you are on Sky+)
These poorer quality CGI humans just freak me out.
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This. They're just fake enough to look utterly wrong. One step above those Lloyds-TSB ads with the Tim Burton-esque characters on the scale of weird freakiness.
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CodeRedR51
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I test drove the Toyota GT86 on hour ago.
A few months ago I destroyed the engine of my Mondeo (made a thread about it but a mod locked it and still don't know why) and I was looking to replace my car.
The BRZ/GT86 was on of the cars I was interested in.
Today I had the opportunity to drive with the GT86 for on hour and I must say that I'm definitely not interested in this car anymore.
Although it is a very good looking car, inside an outside, the driving experience was not so positive. The rear suspension is way too stiff for a daily driver. The 2.0l boxer engine sounds like a 1.4l and the lack off torque is a huge let down. The steering wheel is placed in a odd position, which is not a problem and you adjust to it very quickly. As a daily driver, this car is not more fun than my Mondeo (which is repaired. Had a brand new engine, clutch and alternator installed).
The interior is very sporty and well build. The seats are very comfortable but not as good as the standard Recaro seats in my Mondeo.
The official prize of this particular GT86 was 32.110 which is too expensive for this car.
A few months ago I destroyed the engine of my Mondeo (made a thread about it but a mod locked it and still don't know why) and I was looking to replace my car.
The BRZ/GT86 was on of the cars I was interested in.
Today I had the opportunity to drive with the GT86 for on hour and I must say that I'm definitely not interested in this car anymore.
Although it is a very good looking car, inside an outside, the driving experience was not so positive. The rear suspension is way too stiff for a daily driver. The 2.0l boxer engine sounds like a 1.4l and the lack off torque is a huge let down. The steering wheel is placed in a odd position, which is not a problem and you adjust to it very quickly. As a daily driver, this car is not more fun than my Mondeo (which is repaired. Had a brand new engine, clutch and alternator installed).
The interior is very sporty and well build. The seats are very comfortable but not as good as the standard Recaro seats in my Mondeo.
The official prize of this particular GT86 was 32.110 which is too expensive for this car.
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CodeRedR51
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Again, anyone looking at these cars should not expect a supple ride. It's a sports car after all.
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The springs and dampers are different on the Scion/Toyota and the Subaru. One of them has stiffer springs but softer dampers while the other is the opposite. Our Scion is indeed more tail-happy than the Subaru. The Toyota and Scion are the same mechanically around the world as far as I've read.
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The FR-S has more understeer in steady-state cornering. And that's due to softer _front_ springs. Rear on a FR-S is still stiffer than on a BRZ.
Front OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 27 N/mm (153 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 23 N/mm (131 lbs/in)
Rear OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 34 N/mm (195 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 37 N/mm (211 lbs/in)
Front OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 27 N/mm (153 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 23 N/mm (131 lbs/in)
Rear OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 34 N/mm (195 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 37 N/mm (211 lbs/in)
It would not change my mind. The softer suspension is not the deciding factor for me personal. The lack of torque is. This car feels dead in the lower and middle RPM band.
I forgot to mention that the fuel consumption is rather high.
The positive things though is that the steering is very direct. There is a button on the centre console. Activate this button and steering is even more direct.
The throw of the stick when shifting gears is very short but there is a problem with the gearbox but I can't explain it. When shifting gears, sometimes it felt like the clutch didn't fully engage eventhough I pushed the clutch pedal all the way down.
It is a beautiful car, nice interior but it is not for me.
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Not sure what you mean. Just drove it to Chicago the other day. I averaged 37mpg (~6.4l/100km). In city, if I drive it like just a plain commuter car I can get mid-20s. Might be low in the land of 1L engines and diesels, but from a car that could be driven around the track with lots of fun - that's plenty of mpgs.
