Sciaru BRZFRS (BreezeFrees)

[Legro]

And now something amusing yet shocking: GT86 costs, as is, bare bones with manual, 47k euros here. BRZ, the better of the two, costs over 10k less at 36k euros.

Strangely despite this, GT86 has sold more units since the launch of the two and the BRZ has only recently started to sell better.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Probably because the buyers didn't bother to do any comparisons.. Or remembered the original AE86's they had in their youth.

 

[05XR8]

Down here, the BRZ was first sold online in limited numbers and the allotment was sold out. Meanwhile, the 86 had plenty of stock. It was played out that way from the jump. I worked for Toyota when it was announced the 86 was coming and worked for Subaru when both cars arrived.

 

[Legro]

Probably because the buyers didn't bother to do any comparisons..

This happens among Toyota buyers here in completely another vehicle class too. There's absolutely no reason to get the Proace over the PSA or Fiat version as it's exactly same vehicle except with higher price, and yet it appears to sell as well than the other three together.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Take this with a grain of salt, but....

http://www.worldcarfans.com/115062195584/next-generation-toyota-gt86-could-use-mazda-mx-5-platform

 

[unit-one]

And now something amusing yet shocking: GT86 costs, as is, bare bones with manual, 47k euros here. BRZ, the better of the two, costs over 10k less at 36k euros.

A little bit to the south and the prices are:

Toyota
Standard manual- 28 990 €
Standard automatic- 30 410 €
Luxury manual- 32 180 €
Luxury automatic- 33 600 €

Subaru
manual- 26 900 €
automatic- 28 500 €

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

If I weren't so set on moving and staying in US, I'd move to Estonia.

 

[Hayden]

Take this with a grain of salt, but....

http://www.worldcarfans.com/115062195584/next-generation-toyota-gt86-could-use-mazda-mx-5-platform

Where's @Omnis' salt bulldozer?

They put all the work and money into the GT86 chassis just a few years ago, why would they now scrap it completely to use a competitors design? I just don't see the logic to that.

 

[Omnis]

Where's @Omnis' salt bulldozer?

They put all the work and money into the GT86 chassis just a few years ago, why would they now scrap it completely to use a competitors design? I just don't see the logic to that.

Still catching up to Ford news.

"Fuuuuuuu"

 

[RCKakashi14]

So Toyota released another GT86 strictly for the European market, called the GT86 Blanco Edition:

They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

[CSMDuty11]

European market, eh?



Take that, America! No Toyota for you!
Atleast for 25 years, anyway...

 

[VXR]

As nice as that is, that's a very cheap move!

 

[JR98]

So they've given the GT 86 the paint job from a limited edition 911 GT3? I think it fits rather well on the Toyota.

 

[CodeRedR51]

 

[Omnis]

They got rid of the air vent? Oh hell no. That's a Florida-forbidden mod. And it's garishly loud.

Oh hell no

• Omnis
• May 22, 2015

Oh helllllll no!

You know what I hate about Winding Road? They've never heard of exposure lock.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Well it's modified and it's not their car. But I like their POV videos, wish more people would do them.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

You know what I hate about Winding Road? They've never heard of exposure lock.

Really? I love the 'driving on the surface of the sun' feel of their videos.

 

[homeforsummer]

Well it's modified and it's not their car. But I like their POV videos, wish more people would do them.

I don't mind their videos, but I'm always slightly disappointed by the whole "oh, so they're driving a fast car at 30mph around some city streets again" thing. I'm sure they don't have a massive budget but it'd be a lot more interesting watching POV vids if they were on a track or something.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I don't mind their videos, but I'm always slightly disappointed by the whole "oh, so they're driving a fast car at 30mph around some city streets again" thing. I'm sure they don't have a massive budget but it'd be a lot more interesting watching POV vids if they were on a track or something.

I think their point is to show what it's like to drive these vehicles on a daily basis.

 

[homeforsummer]

I think their point is to show what it's like to drive these vehicles on a daily basis.

From their video blurb:

We upload new videos every week that give quick insight into what our weekly test cars look, feel, and sound like when they're being driven joyfully

If by joyfully they mean "mostly slowly, but we'll give it the beans until we reach the local speed limit every so often" then they're absolutely delivering on that.

Otherwise, it's something of a wasted opportunity when you've got such a visual medium as Youtube to play with. Video, even POV-style video, isn't really that good for relaying the sort of things you'd actually want to know about how a car is to drive on a daily basis - such as how it rides, what the NVH is like, whether the clutch will drive you crazy or whether the seats are comfortable.

I already know what cars are like to drive on a daily basis, and I don't just mean because of my job. Most cars are fairly similar at 30mph in a straight line. Modern cars particularly. Older ones are kinda like newer ones but with a slightly better ride and slightly better visibilty, but a bit more noise.

If someone gave me a helmet cam, some decent recording equipment and a fancy car to knock around in, and the task of giving Youtube viewers something to watch, I'm not sure driving around the suburbs is how I'd use them. I mean, the site/channel is called Winding Road, and most of the time the car isn't even being driven by someone with access to an actual winding road!

 

[CodeRedR51]

Video, even POV-style video, isn't really that good for relaying the sort of things you'd actually want to know about how a car is to drive on a daily basis - such as how it rides, what the NVH is like, whether the clutch will drive you crazy or whether the seats are comfortable.

There's plenty of that out there in the hundreds of review videos you can search for on any given day.

I find it quite refreshing to be able to watch someone drive a car around, sometimes a little speedy, with them not blabbering away and why the car sucks or what drives them crazy.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Face lift time.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/16/scion-frs-subaru-brz-spy-shots/

 

[1241Penguin]

Wished they made it look more like the FT86 G Sport. That car looked stunning.

 

[GTboyz]

Is that the subaru or the scion ?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Is that the subaru or the scion ?

Toyota/Scion.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

The front grille seems to have increased in width. The side fog lamps seem to be smaller. The wing in the rear is larger too.

 

[FT-1]

The only things that really needed an update were the tail lights, the shape looks the same but at least the lighting arrangement has been changed. Could see something similar to this:

 

[CTznOfTime]

FReSh BReeZe from Scion Subaru Toyota...

New FRS BRZ from the SciBaruYota...

 

[CodeRedR51]

Anyone feel like some camel leather?

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/10/scion-introduces-stylish-2016-fr-s.html

 

[ProjectWHaT]

It's about time the Scion gets those LEDs from the Toyota.