Searching For Evidence of Hidden Things

[SuperFrizzio]

I found several car codes on the final version of GT2 that doesnt have their specifical "buy any car" codes and unfortunately I can't even check what they are because of this..

Those car codes are:

- gt--a
- gt-an
- gt-bn
- gtian
- gtibn
- gticn
- gtlbn
- gtlgn
- gtlsn
- gtnkn
- gtprz
- gt-sn

I found on a demo some cars with the same codes and at the end I could check what their names are:

- JLOC DIABLO GTR '97
- X DIABLO GL '98
- JLOC DIABLO GT-1 '99
- TEAM FCJ FERRARI no. 28 '97
- TFCJ Ferrari F355GT '98
- SOK Mclaren GTR '99
- STP TAISAN PORSCHE GT2 '97
- TAISAN PORSCHE RSR '99

So, if someone can:

-Trying to make the "buy any car" working using the 5-letters car codes (I mean for example: a-a7r for the Mazda RX-7 LM Edition)

Or:

-Replacing a Arcade disk mode car with another car using the (5-letters) code.. (Xenn already did that code for the demos.. But I need the exactly code for the final version 1.2 NTSC)

Well.. If someone can tell me the codes to do it... Well.. We could check those cars I mentioned earlier... in the final version of GT2.. Because they are still there.

PS: No websites putted those cars in the car codes list unfortunately

 

[Razor440]

Finally, the start screen of the demo:

If you have a demo with this screen, tell us. NOW!

Maybe I should do an HD rendition of this title screen as if it was a screenshot. All there is to it are existing screenshots and the start screen background from most GT2 demos. That might give us a chance to obtain this demo.
Anyone think Polyphony would still have this stuff laying around too? There has to be a chance of them having a build of this from this stage, even if we'll never see their copies.

 

[SuperFrizzio]

The Spoon Civic Type-R is missing his White colour scheme in the NTSC version.. (The PAL version has it)

And the Spoon Integra Type-R is missing is Yellow colour scheme aswell

 

[tankuroded]

I found several car codes on the final version of GT2 that doesnt have their specifical "buy any car" codes and unfortunately I can't even check what they are because of this..

Those car codes are:

- gt--a
- gt-an
- gt-bn
- gtian
- gtibn
- gticn
- gtlbn
- gtlgn
- gtlsn
- gtnkn
- gtprz
- gt-sn

I found on a demo some cars with the same codes and at the end I could check what their names are:

- JLOC DIABLO GTR '97
- X DIABLO GL '98
- JLOC DIABLO GT-1 '99
- TEAM FCJ FERRARI no. 28 '97
- TFCJ Ferrari F355GT '98
- SOK Mclaren GTR '99
- STP TAISAN PORSCHE GT2 '97
- TAISAN PORSCHE RSR '99

So, if someone can:

-Trying to make the "buy any car" working using the 5-letters car codes (I mean for example: a-a7r for the Mazda RX-7 LM Edition)

Or:

-Replacing a Arcade disk mode car with another car using the (5-letters) code.. (Xenn already did that code for the demos.. But I need the exactly code for the final version 1.2 NTSC)

Well.. If someone can tell me the codes to do it... Well.. We could check those cars I mentioned earlier... in the final version of GT2.. Because they are still there.

PS: No websites putted those cars in the car codes list unfortunately

-Symbols-
 gt--a | 1178000B | Small A License // not used? 
 gt-an | 117802D8 | A License
 gt-bn | 11780318 | B License 
 gt-sn | 11780758 | S License
 +++gt001 | 11781042 | [R]Ford Ka +++ // red rims, RX-7 A-Spec LM label
 gtian | 117932D8 | IA License
 gtibn | 11793318 | IB License 
 gticn | 11793358 | IC License
 gtlbn | 11796318 | Bronze GT Logo
 gtlgn | 11796458 | Gold GT Logo
 gtlsn | 11796758 | Silver GT Logo 
 gtnkn | 11798558 | Green Smiley // for what this is here?
 gtprz | 1179A724 | Trophy

These are all symbols/logos. I maintain a list of GT2 car IDs here.

 

[SuperFrizzio]

Yeah.. I realized that after I saw in another website the number codes (1178008, ecc..)

I found the exact code of the cars I listed previously.. And they all have Toyota Altezza as placeholder.. But still the name inside their files..

Gonna search in more demos to see if I can see something more..

 

[SuperFrizzio]

In the NTSC version if you racing modify a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo '95 you gonna get in the garage the "3000GT Twinturbo" logo

 

[SuperFrizzio]

Looking into every single content of every GT2 demo.. What's the name of the demo with the earliest development? Euro Demo 53?

 

[Razor440]

In the NTSC version if you racing modify a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo '95 you gonna get in the garage the "3000GT Twinturbo" logo

If you race modify a 1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Twin Turbo, you receive a choice of a red or green 1995 Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo, with a Puma Racing livery.

They had to rename the 3000GT because there would have been a licensing issue with Pontiac, and Ferrari for using the GTO name in American regions. Plus, that was the reason why us North Americans only knew it by the 3000GT name.
But somehow this logo slipped through and made it into the US Versions.

I wonder how many people thought it was weird that they had a Japanese car with an "American" name, haha!

Interestingly...GTO is italian for Gran Turismo Omologato, which translates to “officially certified for racing in the grand tourer class”. So that must be true, the 3000GT race modified IS probably eligible for being a race car, a la GTO.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

If you race modify a 1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Twin Turbo, you receive a choice of a red or green 1995 Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo, with a Puma Racing livery.

They had to rename the 3000GT because there would have been a licensing issue with Pontiac, and Ferrari for using the GTO name in American regions. Plus, that was the reason why us North Americans only knew it by the 3000GT name.
But somehow this logo slipped through and made it into the US Versions.

I wonder how many people thought it was weird that they had a Japanese car with an "American" name, haha!

Interestingly...GTO is italian for Gran Turismo Omologato, which translates to “officially certified for racing in the grand tourer class”. So that must be true, the 3000GT race modified IS probably eligible for being a race car, a la GTO.

What I find supremely annoying with this whole GTO kerfuffle is Ferrari got dibs on the GTO name first (250 GTO) and they didn't throw up a ruckus with Pontiac. There's no reason for Pontiac to be so protective IMO, especially as the 2 cars in question are so different.

It's similar to the case of Ferrari F1 F150 who got sued by Ford because of the same named F150 trucks. Really? Are people going to be confusing an F1 car with a truck??? Licensing stuff just piss me off sometimes.

 

[gt3kid89]

Found some sort of Spanish Forum page about GT hidden stuff
http://zonaforo.meristation.com/topic/1895915/
Nothing new actually,but this thing might be interesting

Down that thread, there are some videos with gameplay on 3 deleted/beta tracks
One seems to be a weird, buggy prototype of Apricot Hill with a massive drop on the final chicane
Number two is the infamous Indi oval
And number three looks like the Monaco circuit (without background)

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Down that thread, there are some videos with gameplay on 3 deleted/beta tracks
One seems to be a weird, buggy prototype of Apricot Hill with a massive drop on the final chicane
Number two is the infamous Indi oval
And number three looks like the Monaco circuit (without background)

Awesome find! Indy reminds me of the old Ridge Racer ovals with the tunnels and stuff. Monaco except for the chicane seems pretty accurate. Just imagine what could have been if PD had finished these tracks...

 

[TumeK5]

I got confused as in the PAL version the first complex of Apricot Hill was named as Palm Strip. Also sorry for the quality, just quickly recalled the mention and went into my any% speedrun video file and screencapped it... (basically the same as in this post. It's kinda interesting that name was left).

(Don't mind me, just checking into this thread as it seems active and saw the discussion about Palm Strip...in the OP... )

 

[Razor440]

What I find supremely annoying with this whole GTO kerfuffle is Ferrari got dibs on the GTO name first (250 GTO) and they didn't throw up a ruckus with Pontiac. There's no reason for Pontiac to be so protective IMO, especially as the 2 cars in question are so different.

It's similar to the case of Ferrari F1 F150 who got sued by Ford because of the same named F150 trucks. Really? Are people going to be confusing an F1 car with a truck??? Licensing stuff just piss me off sometimes.

And that my friend, is why I will always call the Dodge Concept Car the Copperhead, because thanks to some stupid company the Concept Car became the most uninspired named car in the world, right next to the 1971 Plymouth Muscle Car.

Oh and that name too, Muscle Car. In 1971, the phrase "Muscle Car" didn't exist, but cars we now know under that class were actually known as "Supercars."

 

[SuperFrizzio]

The Opel/Vauxhall Vectra GSi 2.5 V6 was originally called Vectra 2.0 16V:

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I figure that it had a different name when the beta Vectra looked more like a regular Vectra in comparison to the final GSI model. I guess they originally thought of using a regular Vectra, but then thought the GSI would be a better addition. Although, I can't see why they didn't just use both in the final GT2 when they had multiple trims of other sedans.

 

[JaimePL]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...-of-hidden-things.78938/page-59#post-10093654

That's model i500, which looks same as in GT2. In GT2 beta/demo we can see pre-1999 model, which had different bumpers etc.

On GT2 offical website we can see 1999 (in 1999 this car got facelifting) Vectra model, which is not i500 one. That's even more interesting, because there were used three different models.

 

[SuperFrizzio]

In the GT2 Demo there is a new car that didnt make his way into the final version/data: the

BMW E36 320i Coupe

His car data is: gb0in and I could find his name in this .text data .. It has an Altezza placeholder unfortunately

There is a racing modified version aswell.. But it has a placeholder aswell..

 

[TumeK5]

I can see there's a Ford ESCORT 1.8 Gti too?

 

[SuperFrizzio]

Yes.. And some other removed cars like Renault Sport Spider, Jaguar XK180, some Ferraris and Lamborghini ecc.. But they all have placeholders unfortunately..

Gonna check every GT2 demo to see if there is something else..

 

[TumeK5]

Alright.

P.S. Thanks for the sub man ;P I hope you'd be joining in for my live any% record attempt.

 

[SuperFrizzio]

No problems I really enjoy your GT2 speedruns/record

 

[SuperFrizzio]

Here is another cut BMW, the:

BMW E36 323i Coupe (gb3cn)

This model has his own model finished (wheels apart):

Here is his name:

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Wow, there really is another e36 3-Series hidden in the demo. Darn, I wonder why they didn't included it in the final game. I bet if Polyphony finished the racing mod model of this e36, it would be based on one of the BTCC 3-Series.

 

[SuperFrizzio]

Yeah they removed two E36 based models (The 323i and the 320i).. But I think their racing modifications would have been the same as the 323Ci/328Ci if they were finished..

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I'll agree to disagree, I personally don't see why Polyphony would use the same livery on an older 3-series as what they were using on the e46. Especially since a lot of euro sedans in GT2 had racing mods based on the BTCC series.

EDIT: Also @SuperFrizzio, can you show the other e36 along with the VW Polo and Ford Escorts?

 

[SuperFrizzio]

I'm thinking about making a (really long) video that shows every single beta and hidden car inside GT2 and GT2 Demos, showing the differences between the cars and the names&logo aswell..

Unfortunately the other BMW has a Toyota Altezza placeholder like a said before.. And his racing modified counterpart aswell... Same with the Ford Escort 1.8 Gti and the Volkswagen Polo.. (At least on this demo I'm exploring, the Bonus Playstation Disc..)

Gonna check all of the cars of the other demos as soon as I finish to check the cars/tracks in the demo I'm currently exploring..

The racing modification of the Ford Escort Gti became the [R] Escort Rally Car in the final version; here is the in-game name of the Ford Escort Gti:

Another hidden Escort I discovered is the Ford Escort RS2000, also here what it remains is just the name:

The Ford Escort RS2000 was going to be something like this:

Btw, the final version of GT2 still has the description of the Ford Escort RS1600/RS2000:

Here is the Volkswagen Polo 1.4 16V in-game name.. Same as in the final version..

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I kinda figured about the 1.8 GTI; I used the Escort Rally Car code on my demo discs myself and got a placeholder aswell. Oh well, it's a shame, but I still would like to take a look myself. Can you post the codes for the Escorts, e36s, VW Polos, and Renault Spider?

Btw, the final version of GT2 still has the description of the Ford Escort RS1600/RS2000:

Yeah, we already discussed that part.

 

[SuperFrizzio]

Sure RandomCarGuy17.. Remember that I'm currently using the Bonus Playstation Disc Demo so I suggest you to use that.. : >

Ford Escort 1.8 Gti: efesn
Ford Escort RS2000: efe2n
BMW E36 320i Coupe: gb0in
[R] BMW E36 320i Coupe: gb0ir
BMW E36 323i Coupe: gb3cn
[R] BMW E36 323i Coupe: gb3cr
Volkswagen Polo 1.4 16V: gvp6n
Renault Sport Spider: frssr


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Here another hidden car.. This time a Mercedes-Benz car... The:

Mercedes-Benz AMG C55 (CODE: gmc5n)

Like you can see.. All what remains is the name and the logo... The model wasn't even started considering that there is another Altezza placeholder

Here is the logo:

Can't wait to look at the Test Drive Disc Demo cars

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Sure RandomCarGuy17.. Remember that I'm currently using the Bonus Playstation Disc Demo so I suggest you to use that.. : >

Thank you very much and great job so far. It's nice to see that there's still hidden cars to find after all of this time.

I plan to try these codes on the last demo of GT2. The one with the laptimes shown when you race.

 

[SuperFrizzio]

No problems Is the earliest developed GT2 Demo called Euro Demo 53, right?