Seasonals are getting disappointing

[viperbeatsvette]

I'm very bored of the new seasonals. Each weak is another boring track with lame cars. I myself think they should make a touge like event with 500pp max, sport soft max night time on custom tracks. with extremely heavy damage, penalties, difficulty and rewards.

Now that I own almost 700 cars, most of which are the good cars and not copies of nissans, hondas and mazdas, I can't exactly suggest any improvements there.

 

[Kilmore]

R246 500pp event with a stock Yellowbird without aids on hard sport tires, that's a challenge.

 

[ScouserInExile]

The problem is that, not only are pd making it up to us to make these events difficult, they are using the same rules all the time. So once you have your winning three cars, thats all you need.

What they need to do is to is to vary the rules more and make them a bit more specific (such as under 300bhp Fords only, for example). Though this would often mean that one car would dominate the race...

 

[viperbeatsvette]

R246 500pp event with a stock Yellowbird without aids on hard sport tires, that's a challenge.

It's not so much a challenge I'm looking for, but rather something new and different.

The problem is that, not only are pd making it up to us to make these events difficult, they are using the same rules all the time. So once you have your winning three cars, thats all you need.

What they need to do is to is to vary the rules more and make them a bit more specific (such as under 300bhp Fords only, for example). Though this would often mean that one car would dominate the race...

I agree with your first point, and like your idea. 👍

 

[GTRufus]

I want more of those A-spec expert events. The current events are really getting boring...

 

[Lambob]

Lets hope come this mid February / March, we hear great news of an upcoming GT5 Disc based Expansion pack. installed A-Spec custom event editor onto the PS3 harddrive, is what I would pay 29.99 for. Add the ability to invite online players into your A-Spec event, would be most awesome too.

 

[Car Man]

R246 500pp event with a stock Yellowbird without aids on hard sport tires, that's a challenge.

might try that, i was doing it in a BTR on racing hards, again 500pp

 

[GTRufus]

Lets hope come this mid February / March, we hear great news of an upcoming GT5 Disc based Expansion pack. installed A-Spec custom event editor onto the PS3 harddrive, is what I would pay 29.99 for. Add the ability to invite online players into your A-Spec event, would be most awesome too.

It's on my wishlist. If they can do a course editor, why not doing an event editor? It shouldn't take very long, since we have to do the test races ourselves anyway and PD can focus more on GT6 developpment.

 

[Giulietta73]

R246 500pp event with a stock Yellowbird without aids on hard sport tires, that's a challenge.

Comfort softs in the wet - just the Dottinger hohe - not allowed to touch the grass or go below 90mph

 

[Dumpy]

I'd like more diversity in the Seasonal Events too. They could even re-hash the Driving Missions from GT4 and I'd be ecstatic. One Lap Magic, Slipstream Battles[now with Route X], etc.

 

[toymdngn]

I want more of those A-spec expert events.

👍👍 I agree, the expert events were fun and challenging!

 

[GoSpeedRacer]

👍👍 I agree, the expert events were fun and challenging!

Agreed. I only golded the Fiat and Elise trials, but even the Subaru test was fun, albeit, a bit frustrating from time to time. I wound up with Silver in that event, but couldn't get closer than 2 secs of the leader.

I was starting to dial it in, but got bored and moved on. When I went to go back to it, it was already removed from the Seasonals. I even miss the original Expert Seasonals, where you were given a certain model of car to choose from (RX-7, for instance, and you could use one of a bunch of them, based on your preference and the approved list) and had to race your way to #1, collecting all of the top prizes as you went. With hp, weight, and tire restrictions, those challenges were tough, too.

Those Expert B-Spec Seasonals gave some folks fits, but once the guide was written, they became the "Grind du jour" for the $8M an hour that you could make running them.

As for the other Seasonals, I enjoy the variety of ways that you can challenge them. I also like that they have been changing things up a little, like with the Stars and Stripes event or the new 86 GT '12 TT. 👍

 

[viperbeatsvette]

What about for a good laugh, drift event on something tight like Tsukuba with Le Mans prototypes. Or same cars drifting a whole corner of SSRX.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who wants variety

Agreed. I only golded the Fiat and Elise trials, but even the Subaru test was fun, albeit, a bit frustrating from time to time. I wound up with Silver in that event, but couldn't get closer than 2 secs of the leader.

I was starting to dial it in, but got bored and moved on. When I went to go back to it, it was already removed from the Seasonals. I even miss the original Expert Seasonals, where you were given a certain model of car to choose from (RX-7, for instance, and you could use one of a bunch of them, based on your preference and the approved list) and had to race your way to #1, collecting all of the top prizes as you went. With hp, weight, and tire restrictions, those challenges were tough, too.

Those Expert B-Spec Seasonals gave some folks fits, but once the guide was written, they became the "Grind du jour" for the $8M an hour that you could make running them.

As for the other Seasonals, I enjoy the variety of ways that you can challenge them. I also like that they have been changing things up a little, like with the Stars and Stripes event or the new 86 GT '12 TT. 👍

I finished both of those B-spec 'expert' races with under-classed drivers. Spa with 2 sub 20 drivers with a lot of encouragement in a Takata Dome NSX, and Sarthe with 2 sub 25 drivers in BMW V12 LMR. If they are stated to be expert they should at least be hard.

 

[doctorrg]

I have to say, I was quite happy with the seasonals up until the major cleanup happened, since then, seasonals have never really recovered for me.

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

PD definitely needs to include a new Like The Wind seasonal with Daytona Superspeedway, Route X, and Route 7.

 

[Lustika]

I have to agree that it is not so fun seasonals now. The last b- spec is really boring and I think it would be fun if b-spec would be with a specific car so it comes down to coaching, right driver and setups for the car.
And it would be fun to have a seasonal with the vw bus as in the special on top gear testtrack so it comes to slipstream and being gentle to the steering and throttle.

 

[GTRufus]

I'd like more diversity in the Seasonal Events too. They could even re-hash the Driving Missions from GT4 and I'd be ecstatic. One Lap Magic, Slipstream Battles[now with Route X], etc.

That would be awesome. But they should advance the first 10 missions into full laps instead of sectors.

If you like to see the expert events again, I have uploaded all 3 on my youtube channel.

 

[crowhop]

All of these events can be fun and challenging with the right car/driver combination. But none of them are races. You don't start :30 behind the leader in a single file of 12 in any race I've ever heard of. The Seasonals are cash-grabs and nothing else.
There are no good off-line races for people who are good at this game.

 

[SjefGielen]

I really miss challenges like the Fiat 500 challenge, I think it was one of the first seasonals. Come on PD, more super hard challenges in stock cars, not just the great-big-fast-race car seasonals but more sunday cup like challenges.

And yeah, multiplayer challenges would really make my day, or multiplayer ASpec events like mentioned above!

 

[viperbeatsvette]

All of these events can be fun and challenging with the right car/driver combination. But none of them are races. You don't start :30 behind the leader in a single file of 12 in any race I've ever heard of. The Seasonals are cash-grabs and nothing else.
There are no good off-line races for people who are good at this game.

It gets to the point where I try and see what the slowest car possible to beat Nurburgring world circuit challenge is. So far my slowest to win has been a viper ACR. My Subaru doesn't have the straight line performance, GTR is lame. My next attack will be something like an Audi RS6 avant or Mercedes C63

 

[Spike125]

Seems like this seasonal B spec events are more for beginner, like people who just bought GT5, also the reward car is low level.
But the Nürburgring 650PP is nice to collect some money and stock up the garage a little 840.000 Crd in 16-20 min is great
My Level40 driver with the Zonda LM has no problems at all, so he drives and I watch a movie ^^

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

I've done the nurb with and veyron and it was awesome fun. Really really close tho, because my driver lost some stamina and he had trouble focusing lol. Passed the GT40LM in the last straight. Awesome race, I had fun watching it.

As for the subject of the thread, yes I want more restricted event too. Country restricted + PP or maker/model restrictrion would be nice. And please PD, stop using always the same boring tracks, use reverse, wet, etc.. track.

 

[Cyborg65]

Why do we have all these rally cars if they arent going to give us rally seasonals? I would really like to see a rally seasonal on one of the old rally circuit tracks instead of these point to point races. GT5 has just gotten stale and after buying the prologue mini game and then the full game, im not buying any more. IMO its not near as good as GT3 except in graphics.

 

[tomisnic]

these 3-5 lap races are pathetic...a major problem with GT5 is that most races in A Spec are either too short (10 laps or under) or too long (4 hours or more).

 

[Dumpy]

these 3-5 lap races are pathetic...a major problem with GT5 is that most races in A Spec are either too short (10 laps or under) or too long (4 hours or more).

I'd really like to see some races that take 30 minutes to an hour to complete. Let's say:

Comfort tires only
Vintage Cars / 70's or before
Côte d'Azur / 25-40 laps
and throw in hp/kg restriction for that range.

I think pitting is sorely missed as in GT5. I'd love to see longer races that aren't 2+ hours. And what happened to the announcement that AI [car] was pitting in? I loved that. And the rolling odometer....

As a personal opinion, I really think GT4's game design was stellar. A-spec was amazingly diverse. That version also had the best blend of a-spec and b-spec. I think dev time could have been better spent on either a more complete a-spec or a more robust online mode than on specific b-spec events. I understand though that some enjoy the b-spec, but I'm just not one of them.

Rally is also a totally underused discipline. Love to see that.

But what about those 'seasonal events' from GT5rologue? Remember the races you could join that were already pre-defined? I'd love to see that again too.

 

[tomisnic]

I'd really like to see some races that take 30 minutes to an hour to complete. Let's say:

Comfort tires only
Vintage Cars / 70's or before
Côte d'Azur / 25-40 laps
and throw in hp/kg restriction for that range.

I think pitting is sorely missed as in GT5. I'd love to see longer races that aren't 2+ hours. And what happened to the announcement that AI [car] was pitting in? I loved that. And the rolling odometer....

As a personal opinion, I really think GT4's game design was stellar. A-spec was amazingly diverse. That version also had the best blend of a-spec and b-spec. I think dev time could have been better spent on either a more complete a-spec or a more robust online mode than on specific b-spec events. I understand though that some enjoy the b-spec, but I'm just not one of them.

Rally is also a totally underused discipline. Love to see that.

But what about those 'seasonal events' from GT5rologue? Remember the races you could join that were already pre-defined? I'd love to see that again too.

I've never played GT4 so I can't compare but most A Spec races in GT5 are a total failure...If PD hired me for one week, I'd completely redo all single player races and I'm confident I'd leave most GT5 fans drooling. It's absolutely criminal how underutilized most of the cars (and car classes) and tracks are.

First idea: a proper formula championship (made even better with a future premium FGT car)

40-60 laps at

1) Fuji
2) Suzuka
3) Monaco
4) Spa
5) Monza
6) Nurburgring
7) Indianapolis
8) Laguna Seca

 

[PTL5spd]

I wish they'd give us some better seasonal and endurance races. a 20-50 lap race with classics, compacts, sports, all with more competitive PP restrictions. and lots of rally/drift/one make stock races in the seasonal events. Maybe some goofy ones like drag races between under 50hp cars.

I haven't even thought of doing the endurance races as I don't really feel like running a track for 2-4 hours when I can do all the seasonal events again in the same amount of time and get a lot more cash

 

[BWX]

How about LONGER races?

How about a championship of many races?

How about 12 fast AI and not just one ''rabbit car'' AI that makes the entire race a time trial with obstacle AI just to try to catch one fast AI? That wrecks all the races.

How about AI strength slider like in arcade mode so we can use the more aggressive and realistic AI model?

How about standing starts with above rabbit AI problem fixed?

How about random weather sometimes?

How about snow rally events?

How about dirt rally events?

How about using any imagination at all when thinking up these events?

How about way more A-Spec events considering how short off-line A-Spec is amnd you can't even use most of the cars in the game in them?

The list could go on for days. PD just don't care about A-Spec anymore.

 

[Dumpy]

If you have never played GT4 and you've got a lot of time on your hands, I'd fully recommend it. It's not as pretty as GT5, but it's not exactly ugly either.

I've been thinking about firing it up here lately myself, but I just don't have the time... I don't think the G27 works on the PS2 anyway.

When GT4 came out, I remember it got a lot of backlash because it featured no online or multi-player racing aside from split screen. I guess because of that we got a perfect a-spec.

After the inclusion of the Seasonal Events in GT5, it basically broke GT5's A-spec. Money and experience points in the normal offline game made no sense. You can leave it alone for all I care, the future of this game is going to depend on Seasonal Events and communal racing. I'm fine with that.

I don't want to sound 'gripey' or 'whiney' because GT5 is leaps beyond GT4 in terms of gameplay, just not quite where we expected it in game design. I mean, I still play this game nearly every day. I think we all just want more.

 

[GT55YW]

I'd really like to see some races that take 30 minutes to an hour to complete. Let's say:

Comfort tires only
Vintage Cars / 70's or before
Côte d'Azur / 25-40 laps
and throw in hp/kg restriction for that range.

I think pitting is sorely missed as in GT5. I'd love to see longer races that aren't 2+ hours. And what happened to the announcement that AI [car] was pitting in? I loved that. And the rolling odometer....

As a personal opinion, I really think GT4's game design was stellar. A-spec was amazingly diverse. That version also had the best blend of a-spec and b-spec. I think dev time could have been better spent on either a more complete a-spec or a more robust online mode than on specific b-spec events. I understand though that some enjoy the b-spec, but I'm just not one of them.

Rally is also a totally underused discipline. Love to see that.

But what about those 'seasonal events' from GT5rologue? Remember the races you could join that were already pre-defined? I'd love to see that again too.

Not to get this off topic, but I really do miss the older style. It was nice when we had races, and you could practice, race, or do b spec. We have two huge icons, 25% of the screen, taken up with a very simple, short series of races. A spec should be "Campaign" or something, and B spec should be dealerships, sorted by country, then dealerships organized by alpha. And the GT4 setup like Dealership, Tuning, One make races, should be back. I'd love it to bring back the older style tuning, with specialization.

They should make custom parts (more power, higher cost) from the manufacturer, contrary to just the generic parts from 'tuning'

But hey, I don't design video games.

Regarding this actual topic- I agree they are disappointing.