Sebastien Vettel challenge: all gold
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- MitchellMerry
I'm Level 31 B Spec, now 25 A Spec. For whatever reason, you start this challenge in the pits, and I think it starts taking your time somewhere in there (but neither of the on-screen counters show this). I was consistently finishing the first lap in 1:02-1:04, thinking, "This is definitely a gold time," since gold is 2:04, and obviously my standing start lap is going to be slower than my second. When I finished, my on screen time was about 4 seconds later than the time that it showed I got on the next screen. I was unhappy, until I saw my A Spec level jump.
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- Jump_Ace
- JUMPxACE
Pics? Black X1 sounds beautiful
Sorry, I didn't see this until now. I can take a quick pic of both the red and black one (since they are next to each other) 👍
So what you are saying is I'm cheating because I'm using an option that is available in the game that Sebastien himself may (or may not, who knows?) have used in his replay? No, that is not cheating since I'm in the confines of what the game allows. By that standard, using ABS 1 is also considered cheating since it prevents the brakes from locking up and the car skidding around. And I couldn't tune the transmission for a car on a longer track so that I hit a higher top speed, because that would significantly positively affect my lap times. [/rant]
EDIT: here's a pic of all three X1's in my garage:
Jerome
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I have golded the 60 license tests and every special event except the "Alfa 8C at Eiger", "Lambo at night" and "Focus at Toscana Rally" without a wheel, and I am absolutely stuck at Suzuka. I am simply unable to be fast enough without going off track. The fastest I achieved was 1:08:4 at the first lap, which is not very impressive. Can anyone who is not using a wheel tell me what exact set up did they use? I would welcome the help, since I am quite desperate, honestly, as I do not consider myself to be a crappy driver.
For the record, I am using:
Control Traction: 0
Skid Recovery: On
Steering assist: Mid
ASM: Yes
ABS: 1
For the record, I am using:
Control Traction: 0
Skid Recovery: On
Steering assist: Mid
ASM: Yes
ABS: 1
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- MitchellMerry
Try with ASM off, I did a few runs with it on and found it easier with it set to off, having ASM off and steering assist off allowed me to 'flick' the car round a few corners which made me a little faster, I also set driving line on to show which line is recommened, although i didn't follow it exactly it was more of a guide line
I just finished silvering the challenges Red bull x1 fresh blue paint! Gonna see what exactly the difference is. I'll be back!
Edit: traction control off. No doubt.
So the transmission is adjustable, BUT 311 is max.
Jump ace, hats off to you bro, much respect.
Edit: traction control off. No doubt.
So the transmission is adjustable, BUT 311 is max.
Jump ace, hats off to you bro, much respect.
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- Jump_Ace
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You are right Jay. I had this on initially just to see how the car handled and once I got the hang of the car (getting bronzes) I turned it off and could now see the gold times as manageable with some work
Oh, and someone asked if the Black 'gold' X1 was different than the silver one, no it's the same as the X1 you get for getting silver, just a different color.
Jerome
Oh, and someone asked if the Black 'gold' X1 was different than the silver one, no it's the same as the X1 you get for getting silver, just a different color.
Jerome
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I think one thing that may be tricky with the controller is overlap of brake and gas. From my experience (and you can see on the posted gold vids) you need to do that quite a bit to get the golds ( I know it shouldn't help a RWD car turn- but that is GT physics
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It seemed to me that golding these was not quite as hard as a clean winning run on mission 34 on NTSC GT4. Took me well over a week to win that clean, and even at that I won by only a little over 1 sec, over 8 minutes of driving. This Red Bull challenge took only an evening to gold. Was a great challenge, although I don't envy those without a wheel for this. Keep us posted on your progress!
)It seemed to me that golding these was not quite as hard as a clean winning run on mission 34 on NTSC GT4. Took me well over a week to win that clean, and even at that I won by only a little over 1 sec, over 8 minutes of driving. This Red Bull challenge took only an evening to gold. Was a great challenge, although I don't envy those without a wheel for this. Keep us posted on your progress!
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- GTP_Royalton
For those struggling with Suzuka what helped me was braking later going into spoon which puts you in good position for spoon-2.
The final chicane be very aggresive on exit. The car can exit faster then you may think. This combined with pushing harder throgh Degner #1 & #2 gave me gold
Cut the course at Monza.
No suggestion for the Nurbrgring Challenge it made me hate GT5
The final chicane be very aggresive on exit. The car can exit faster then you may think. This combined with pushing harder throgh Degner #1 & #2 gave me gold
Cut the course at Monza.
No suggestion for the Nurbrgring Challenge it made me hate GT5
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- GV27-
I finally made it! Using a controller and getting three golds in two evenings is actually a great achievement for me, especially because yesterday I couldn't picture myself getting a bronze at Suzuka. In the end, I got a decent first lap and a good (I think silver-worthy) second lap there, and fortunately got a bronze there. I feel that, with a lot of work, I could MAYBE get to silver, but right now gold seems unachieveable without a wheel, at least for me.
However, if there is someone with a controller who's able to get gold on there, please do tell me, since knowing it can be done would motivate me to try it later on (right now, having the first X1, I'll just go on with A-Spec and B-Spec for a while).
Thanks for the suggestion of removing the ASM; I never use any help with any other car, but I felt those were "needed" for me to learn to drive the X1 at Suzuka and I thought I could get bronze with those. ASM off made the car a bit more fidget-y, which was great for the quick direction changes you have to make at Suzuka. I think it's precisely on those quick direction changes where you actually gain more with the wheel, since I know I am losing at least more than one second per lap in relation with the "gold videos" posted here, in the first sector.
Of course, I would improve more with a steering wheel pretty much everywhere, but especially on the first sector...
Now on to my humble advices for those who, like me, want to try getting a bronze with a controller.
I was VERY aggressive on the first corner, I accelerated until very late and braked while turning in, although not too much, in order not to "kill" the momentum. Then trying your best to find a fluent pace through the esses, not trying too hard since you might go wide. Degner #1 is almost flat out, I just left the throttle a little bit. I suppose it's a matter of "balls" there. Degner #2 is actually breaking early and accelerating over the inside kerb. The following corner I found it to be quite tricky sometimes; you have to break late but HAVE to hit the apex, too, otherwise you end up losing too much time. Then, on Spoon, breaking late on the first corner and very late on the second, which places you in a good position for the backstraight. I never found a comfortable way of facing the Casio Chicane, but I wasn't too slow either, so... that was it! 2:15:7 or something like this, I got
However, if there is someone with a controller who's able to get gold on there, please do tell me, since knowing it can be done would motivate me to try it later on (right now, having the first X1, I'll just go on with A-Spec and B-Spec for a while).
Thanks for the suggestion of removing the ASM; I never use any help with any other car, but I felt those were "needed" for me to learn to drive the X1 at Suzuka and I thought I could get bronze with those. ASM off made the car a bit more fidget-y, which was great for the quick direction changes you have to make at Suzuka. I think it's precisely on those quick direction changes where you actually gain more with the wheel, since I know I am losing at least more than one second per lap in relation with the "gold videos" posted here, in the first sector.
Of course, I would improve more with a steering wheel pretty much everywhere, but especially on the first sector...
Now on to my humble advices for those who, like me, want to try getting a bronze with a controller.
I was VERY aggressive on the first corner, I accelerated until very late and braked while turning in, although not too much, in order not to "kill" the momentum. Then trying your best to find a fluent pace through the esses, not trying too hard since you might go wide. Degner #1 is almost flat out, I just left the throttle a little bit. I suppose it's a matter of "balls" there. Degner #2 is actually breaking early and accelerating over the inside kerb. The following corner I found it to be quite tricky sometimes; you have to break late but HAVE to hit the apex, too, otherwise you end up losing too much time. Then, on Spoon, breaking late on the first corner and very late on the second, which places you in a good position for the backstraight. I never found a comfortable way of facing the Casio Chicane, but I wasn't too slow either, so... that was it! 2:15:7 or something like this, I got
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- Jump_Ace
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Stay off the rumble strips as much as you can. The high rumble strips and the very low ride height on this car make it bounce and unsettled. If you avoid them you can get on the gas sooner. Also, try to never fully take your foot off the gas (it's hard to adjust to but it really helps and is pretty much necessary to gold them imo). HTH. I would offer to make replays, but that songs been sung already.
Congrats man! Glad to help. 👍
Jerome
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@Jump_Ace, so basically, you tend to brake with the left foot most of the time then? I've just been watching the vids to see the braking points and gear but haven't looked at throttle and brake control yet. Silvered Nurburg with a 2:09:085 and I'm having a hard time getting gold lol. Fastest lap I ever recorded was a 1:04:0xx but screwed up the next lap lol.
As an update, I've got gold on monza, even beating the ghost by a sec or two. Got gold on suzaka after a 4 hr session, with a steaming hot wheel! Last is my nemesis, nurburg! I've gotten silver here! But man, the road is narrow in some parts. So gold is absolutely possible, but you have to be perfect!
Now for my new setup.
Trac control: off
Abs: 10!!!
Skid force on!
And driving line ON! Lol.
Now for my new setup.
Trac control: off
Abs: 10!!!
Skid force on!
And driving line ON! Lol.
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Awesome, a real challenge. I just unlocked the Red Bull X1 SEs and tried them out. Got 2:23.xxx. This will be fun =)
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My friend from Italy got it all gold n showed me the carbon X1!!! its crazzy light n fast!!
Was that the SLR 1 lap challenge on the Nordschleife? Thas was HARD!! And it was so annoying because everytime you failed you had to wait for all the slower cars to set off! I did it after a lot of effort and I only overtook the 300SL after the last corner so was side by side with him and just managed to win, it was epic!! Did it with the DS2, wheel might have been easier.
This X1 is a beast! Using a G27 got all bronzes in about 20min each. A further 20min to get gold in Monza by cheating a bit at the chicanes! Will now work to get gold in Nurburgring and Suzuka. The dead zone and force feedback is annoying me with the X1 though... pretty good with any other car but with this... I think I'll try lowering it and skid recovery on... I don't like it but I NEED those golds!
BTW this car is great for fixed distance endurance races, did the 200mil Laguna Seca race in 1h28m! My B-Spec Bob seems to be pretty handy with it too!
I am 2 seconds shy of bronze in sazuka, 2:18s pretty regularly, started with 2:22s worked on it an hour and half or so, with a ton of DQs thrown in, trying to figure out where i could really shove the car around.
But skid recovery on? I had it on my first laps, tried with ABS totally off but had to turn it to one since well DFGT and all locked the wheels up even looking at the break pedal. But turned skid recovery off and well the car does not skid....i mean i pushed it pretty hard stomped on the gas out of the tight corners and could not get that tail to do anything funny.
Thing that really hard about the car is it does not handle like a car at all, more like a rocket that is glued to the road, but have to toss out pretty much you know about driving cars and just let the thing rip along, gonna be hard for me tho since i am lift off the gas to break guy, and everything i read on here seem to indicate only way to get gold is to keep the throttle down and use the breaks to control your speed. Honestly that is not something i done since i raced with a controller.
But skid recovery on? I had it on my first laps, tried with ABS totally off but had to turn it to one since well DFGT and all locked the wheels up even looking at the break pedal. But turned skid recovery off and well the car does not skid....i mean i pushed it pretty hard stomped on the gas out of the tight corners and could not get that tail to do anything funny.
Thing that really hard about the car is it does not handle like a car at all, more like a rocket that is glued to the road, but have to toss out pretty much you know about driving cars and just let the thing rip along, gonna be hard for me tho since i am lift off the gas to break guy, and everything i read on here seem to indicate only way to get gold is to keep the throttle down and use the breaks to control your speed. Honestly that is not something i done since i raced with a controller.
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Golded 2 days ago. Most difficult Nurburgring. After a while you will find yourself chasing ghost, and this is soooo much fun, your focus is mind boggling, and then you will finish half second faster. And obviously this...
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