Should PD have let the modding slide? ... OP Updated.

[analog]

First off, I have to say this doesn't really affect me in any way, received one hybrid, borrowed another and had a laugh but didn't really get involved into building my own for example (the fact I didn't know how to or at least didn't trust myself not to screw up my gamesave played a more important role than any principle ) so it all sort of passed me by.

However, I do understand the frustration and anger by those who did, and I think a large part is due to timing and not communicating.
If PD immediately acted in the way they did now after the first hybrids appeared instead of allowing a lot of time for people to experiment and enjoy this game flaw, it would've been more easily accepted I guess.
And if they had to take some time to find a solution, they should've communicated what they were planning to do early on instead of keeping schtum.

There's a difference between what's their right to do and what's right to do.

 

[Mitsubishi]

I just adore all the fights that started due to the update.

PD, did you want this to happen???
Part of your "Evil little mind game"??


Now. Since I have some really nice cars, I will choose to stay offline.

When I accept the ending, I will update.

You guys have this choice too....

Not trying to argue or anything, but the options are still there.

 

[Johnnypenso]

there are at least 700+ unique cars in the game that you can modify within the games paramaters and some find it boring? Oh well, i really truly with all of my heart don't feel bad for you in the slightest.

Fixed that for you. And yes.

there are at least 700+ unique cars in the game but you won't beat my Elise at 500PP, nor my LFA at 550PP at most tracks without being in the same car. Oh well, i really truly with all of my heart don't feel bad for you in the slightest.

I also fixed that for you.

 

[Samus]

Whilst I do think they did the right thing I totally agree that once again, their communication skills are non-existent. Except for their actions we have not heard a single word on what they thought of the general ideas happening, why they did what they did, what they intend to do going forward, nothing.

Once again, the silence is deafening.

 

[Jaywalker]

Whilst I do think they did the right thing I totally agree that once again, their communication skills are non-existent. Except for their actions we have not heard a single word on what they thought of the general ideas happening, whey they did what they did, what they intend to do going forward, nothing.

Once again, the silence is deafening.

Standard PD fare...

 

[Johnnypenso]

Whilst I do think they did the right thing I totally agree that once again, their communication skills are non-existent. Except for their actions we have not heard a single word on what they thought of the general ideas happening, whey they did what they did, what they intend to do going forward, nothing.

Once again, the silence is deafening.

If it remains unchanged, their lack of effective communication could well be their downfall.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Whilst I do think they did the right thing I totally agree that once again, their communication skills are non-existent. Except for their actions we have not heard a single word on what they thought of the general ideas happening, whey they did what they did, what they intend to do going forward, nothing.

Once again, the silence is deafening.

And in the world of online communities, this is becoming unforgivable.

Oh well. I reverted to 2.11. Goodbye online races. Hello to hotlaps like I've been doing from GT1-GT4

 

[jimipitbull]

A BHP cap would have been the easiest fix. There is no need for anything in a "simulator" to exceed four figure HP numbers. The PP system takes care of the rest.

Remove the unlimited option from PP and tire settings and it's done and dealt with. As it stands, I can still sneak a set of super soft tires into any room and simply assume no one will check...because few ever do.

That's my beef about it. Hypotheticals and opinions are all fine and dandy, but facts are facts. The fact is that hard working fans with harmless and interesting cars have been acted upon, while actual cheaters are free to continue cheating with impunity.

Proper community management would have built in anti cheating measures, solutions that have been around since before the franchise existed. Instead, they killed the perception of cheating without actually protecting anyone.

Super soft tires are entry level cheats. Hybrids are much more serious.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Restrict the tire to RM or lower, I never use more than Sport Soft tire when hosting online lobby and 90% of the time is comfort only. Common sense prevent super soft cheat tire. I will update my GT5 when I have working PS3 , I still love driving, regardless of which car I'm in.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Whilst I do think they did the right thing I totally agree that once again, their communication skills are non-existent. Except for their actions we have not heard a single word on what they thought of the general ideas happening, why they did what they did, what they intend to do going forward, nothing.

Once again, the silence is deafening.

I have to admit, you are right about that one that's for sure.

 

[TwIsTeD_83]

Finally.
I can play GT5 online again without cheater worries.

 

[Mitsubishi]

Finally.
I can play GT5 online again without cheater worries.

Not entirely true.

Still hidden parts/ hidden tires.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Not entirely true.

Still hidden parts/ hidden tires.

Maybe the next update will deal with that too. Can't wait to see more crying, it's so amusing.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Super soft tires are entry level cheats. Hybrids are much more serious.

It's completely the opposite. After well 100 mods, I never found one that broke the system and was still usable.

Super soft tires on any of the top cars and it's a guaranteed win as long as I keep it on the asphalt and 95% wins even if I don't. The super soft tires are worth several seconds a lap on all tracks. Mods are only worth several seconds to certain cars (that are well off the pace in the first place), bringing them to within range of the other top cars.

It's a moot point now. What they've now done is create a great opportunity for another publisher to finally steal their crown.

 

[Cote Dazur]

Finally.
I can play GT5 online again without cheater worries.

Cheaters were there long before hacking, and they will still be there long after you lose your childish illusion.

 

[TwIsTeD_83]

Cheaters were there long before hacking, and they will still be there long after you lose your childish illusion.

I have illusions because I want to play on an level playing field?
Ok hybrids are out I win hackers can go offline.

 

[jimipitbull]

It's completely the opposite. After well 100 mods, I never found one that broke the system and was still usable.

Super soft tires on any of the top cars and it's a guaranteed win as long as I keep it on the asphalt and 95% wins even if I don't. The super soft tires are worth several seconds a lap on all tracks. Mods are only worth several seconds to certain cars (that are well off the pace in the first place), bringing them to within range of the other top cars.

It's a moot point now. What they've now done is create a great opportunity for another publisher to finally steal their crown.

Other publishers still have the same opportunities as yesterday, last week, last month and last year.
GT6 will raise the bar even further.

 

[Cote Dazur]

I have illusions because I want to play on an level playing field?
Ok hybrids are out I win hackers can go offline.

You have illusion that the cheaters are gone because the hacking, as you seem to believe, is gone.
You need to wake up and realize that cheating and Hacking are 2 different words, then you might realize that cheating has always been there, some cheaters used hacking, but by removing (some) hacking, you did not remove the cheaters.
But then again, why worry, you're safe now! aren't you? You have found your scapegoat, happy dreams!

 

[TwIsTeD_83]

You have illusion that the cheaters are gone because the hacking, as you seem to believe, is gone.
You need to wake up and realize that cheating and Hacking are 2 different words, then you might realize that cheating has always been there, some cheaters used hacking, but by removing (some) hacking, you did not remove the cheaters.
But then again, why worry, you're safe now! aren't you? You have found your scapegoat, happy dreams!

Oh no I'm not safe!
The super awesome cheater-hackers are going to teach me a lesson.
The butthurt is strong isn't it?

 

[Mitsubishi]

Oh no I'm not safe!
The super awesome cheater-hackers are going to teach me a lesson.
The butthurt is strong isn't it?

You need to realize that GT5 will. Dare I say it?
Gt5 will NEVER be hack proof.
There is always that One Person that will change everything.

They said GTA4 could not be modded on PS3, they were wrong.

GT5? Hah.

 

[TwIsTeD_83]

You need to realize that GT5 will. Dare I say it?
Gt5 will NEVER be hack proof.
There is always that One Person that will change everything.

They said GTA4 could not be modded on PS3, they were wrong.

GT5? Hah.

Different times different games
GT5 is the first title with a full online feature.
All I care about is a fair online experience.Hybrids destroyed that.
It is PD's duty to go great lengths to ensure that the online experience is fair.
Couldn't care less about off-line hacking

 

[Voodoovaj]

Other publishers still have the same opportunities as yesterday, last week, last month and last year.
GT6 will raise the bar even further.

??? GT hasn't raised the bar since GT3. I meant seriously, what did they do that raised the bar with GT5? They added online, which is what everyone else already had.

The publishers did not have the same opportunity. PD hadn't created a PR uproar until now. Sony is introducing a new "social" online driving game that looks a lot like GT. That's hedging bets against an aging and stagnant franchise.

 

[Samus]

PR uproar? Where? A handful of people on this board?

 

[Vagabond]

??? GT hasn't raised the bar since GT3. I meant seriously, what did they do that raised the bar with GT5? They added online, which is what everyone else already had.

The driving physics are the best they've ever been. The graphics are the best they've ever been. They added online... everyone else already had it because GT4 was on the PS2, remember? While I will always admit that the PD machine is slow to assimilate some ideas and improve (engine sounds, interface, career mode, AI etc...) you can't deny its strengths.

 

[Exorcet]

All I care about is a fair online experience.Hybrids destroyed that.

They didn't even make a dent.

Sad to say that PD has yet to take action with the online problems in this game, which is disheartening.

 

[Vagabond]

I wondered a few times how many people would have gone and bought GT5 after hearing that you could have a 3000bhp Honda Civic? (Just as a for-instance) Modding has given other games (Morrowind, Oblivion, Half Life 2, etc..) hugely extended life spans and generated sales many years after their release. The bottom line is always the numbers and maybe there was an avenue there they could've exploited with a little more savvy.

 

[tronrider345]

Maybe this thread could be closed because obviously their answer was NO.

 

[twitcher]

I wondered a few times how many people would have gone and bought GT5 after hearing that you could have a 3000bhp Honda Civic? (Just as a for-instance) Modding has given other games (Morrowind, Oblivion, Half Life 2, etc..) hugely extended life spans and generated sales many years after their release. The bottom line is always the numbers and maybe there was an avenue there they could've exploited with a little more savvy.

Very well said 👍 This seems like a very meat-head solution.

It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out in the future. In my personal opinion, PD had better bring the heat with GT6 in terms of vehicle modification and customization. If GT6 isn't at least on par with what was possible with hybrids, I feel PD may be putting a nail in their own coffin. I hope PD doesn't continue to simply rehash the same basic modification system they've been using since GT1.

The day will come when another developer releases a game that has that ultimate combo of great physics and great customization. Forza is getting really close. Still has a bit of catching up to do in the physics and graphics department, but it's getting close.

 

[GreazyTee]

maybe this thread could be closed because obviously their answer was no.

lolololol

 

[Pupik]

Sony you piece of crap company. I'm returning this piece of crap GT5 to gamestop. Kaz you better have engine swaps in GT6 or you lost a fan. Ill take my money to forza.

And before hand before someone says, well your just one person and $60 is nothing to them. I'm pretty sure they will loose plenty of customer because of this bull.

Now that you're done throwing all of your toys out of the crib/pram, you can get a grip on reality.