Should the Veyron be premium? (poll)

Should the Veyron be a premium car?

  • Yes

    Votes: 852 76.4%
  • No

    Votes: 263 23.6%

  • Total voters
    1,115
  • Poll closed .
Difference between those games and Gran Turismo is that GT is the "real" driving simulator so from Bugatti's point of view they could see damage compromising the sales of the Veyron.....just a thought.

you think VW give a **** about Veyrons sales? theyll sell no matter what
 
They are not all for engine coolant though.

Charge coolers, engine coolant coolers, hydraulic coolers, gearbox oil coolers.

Many are duplicated due to double banks for the charge cooling etc.


It's not bad engineering, it's just what is needed.

Write down the list of the minimum ones it should need, and then decide if having ONE big rad is better than two smaller ones wrt packaging.


Dave

3 engine radiators, 3 intercoolers, transmission fluid cooler, 1 engine oil cooler.

I was being slightly facetious. But when I first heard it had 10 radiators and weighs more than a family car I just laughed. It doesn't scream well designed. It screams "hmmm... this engine requires more cooling than we left space for... maybe we can shove a few more radiators in these gaps". :P

To me the Veyron is an example of what can be done with a lot of money, not an example of a good car. It weighs 1880kg for goodness sake, you could probably build a car of similar weight based around a 2000hp Rolls Royce Merlin ;) If you want to go fast around a track, buy a track car, it'll beat a Veyron any day of the week at maybe a twentieth the price. If you want to go 400kmh in a street car... why do you want to go 400kmh in a street car? :P Buy a Hennessy 1000 rear wheel horsepower twin turbo Viper or a Weineck Cobra. I am a bit biased in the fact IMO most expensive supercars are a wank anyway. If I had a billion dollars to burn, my garage would have a lot of awesome cars in it, the Veyron would not be one... but then again very few of them would cost more than $300k anyway (except maybe a few rare classics). :)

That's my opinion as someone who loves race cars, I dont expect others to agree. Hence why I used emoticons so as not to be taken seriously ;) That's one of the great things about cars, just because you dont like it doesn't mean others wont, and just because you like it doesn't make it any better than any other car. :)

The Veyron should be a premium, even though I'm personally not a fan, its a popular car and has a place as a premium. If you start pining for the Veyron interior, you can always go play NFS Shift or, dare I say it, Forza 3 :P
 
That's basically what I appreciate about it.

Exactly,a perfect 'murder' machine which insensibly destroys everything.That's why I love it 👍

Yup, exactly how I feel, which is why im very unhappy its not a premium. It also seems like there aren't many people who "get" the Veyron...

It was going to try and make it my "it" car in gt5 with tuning. Hopefully the fastest production car in the game, with the chance of rivaling many race cars. But uhhh I'm not feeling its well represented in this game either.

3 engine radiators, 3 intercoolers, transmission fluid cooler, 1 engine oil cooler.

I was being slightly facetious. But when I first heard it had 10 radiators and weighs more than a family car I just laughed. It doesn't scream well designed. It screams "hmmm... this engine requires more cooling than we left space for... maybe we can shove a few more radiators in these gaps". :P

To me the Veyron is an example of what can be done with a lot of money, not an example of a good car. It weighs 1880kg for goodness sake, you could probably build a car of similar weight based around a 2000hp Rolls Royce Merlin ;) If you want to go fast around a track, buy a track car, it'll beat a Veyron any day of the week at maybe a twentieth the price. If you want to go 400kmh in a street car... why do you want to go 400kmh in a street car? :P Buy a Hennessy 1000 rear wheel horsepower twin turbo Viper or a Weineck Cobra. I am a bit biased in the fact IMO most expensive supercars are a wank anyway. If I had a billion dollars to burn, my garage would have a lot of awesome cars in it, the Veyron would not be one... but then again very few of them would cost more than $300k anyway (except maybe a few rare classics). :)

That's my opinion as someone who loves race cars, I dont expect others to agree. Hence why I used emoticons so as not to be taken seriously ;) That's one of the great things about cars, just because you dont like it doesn't mean others wont, and just because you like it doesn't make it any better than any other car. :)

Lol people with your attitude are the reason i wanted he veyron to be premium :). So i can try beat you in a car on a windy course, that will most likley be twice the weight of the car you've chosen.

Especially the Super sport. Not that you can't race the Veyron as it is, but I'm fearfull it might be mis-represented as another top speed sled racer like it is in most games.

I would feel more comfortable if its a premium, as it seems to give the illusion PD did some more work and research on how it is to drive.

And now that the 1200hp SS is also out, and is lighter, I feel you are starting off with a much worse base for tuning as well.

Tahts why I'm not happy about the single, standard veyron situation.
 
Question, and I apologize if this has been covered...

In GT PSP, I believe the rear-wing worked as it should on the Veyron (Standing up under braking, flattening out at higher speeds, etc...).

This being the case, is it safe to assume that the same would be true in GT5, even though it's not a Premium?
 
Question, and I apologize if this has been covered...

In GT PSP, I believe the rear-wing worked as it should on the Veyron (Standing up under braking, flattening out at higher speeds, etc...).

This being the case, is it safe to assume that the same would be true in GT5, even though it's not a Premium?

I'm sure the similar rear wing of the SLR did this in GT4. Can't see a reason why a standard car in GT5 would lack this feature. I'm sure it's safe to say that it will, especially if it's already been seen in GTPSP.
 
I'm sure the similar rear wing of the SLR did this in GT4. Can't see a reason why a standard car in GT5 would lack this feature. I'm sure it's safe to say that it will, especially if it's already been seen in GTPSP.

Unless ofcourse we had another example to point to where exactly this happened. Oh Wait you can't change the wheels on standars and in gt4 you could :P

I think the wing will work. The Veyron isnt even a standard car in the sense that it doesnt come from gt4, it was modeled miuch later and thus proably fits in another category somewhere between standard and Premium.

What I'm worried about is how you get it. Its not in the dealership, and not a used car. I hope you dont have to have a psp save to get it.
 
What I'm worried about is how you get it. Its not in the dealership, and not a used car. I hope you dont have to have a psp save to get it.
Please, I just had a small happy moment, don't ruin that for me just yet, please?
 
**** the Veyron. I'm glad its standard so I don't have to see its fat ugly ass parading on every track when I go Online to race.
 
**** the Veyron. I'm glad its standard so I don't have to see its fat ugly ass parading on every track when I go Online to race.

That was necessary:tdown: don't like it don't comment. Have an opinion by all means but that is again no reason to vote no, just because you don't like the car.
 
That was necessary:tdown: don't like it don't comment. Have an opinion by all means but that is again no reason to vote no, just because you don't like the car.

i think its a fair reason to vote no, its why i voted no, otherwise the question turns into "should every car be premium?". the other option is that this be a petition rather than a poll
 
Because of it's status yes. And I never thought I'd say this but perhaps it could be unlocked.
 
I assume that was directed at me, and if so, you could not be more wrong. I read every part of your post, and most if it was just wishful thinking.

The car is STANDARD. As such, it DOES NOT have a cockpit view. As much as it might pain you, how hard is it for you to understand?


Quite clearly not. I don't give a monkey's whether the Veyron is even in the game, let alone whether the interior is modelled. In my opinion, cockpit view is not realistic, given the field of view limitations of the average living room / TV display, and it's not a view I use.

My original post was merely a pair of questions as to why the Veyron is listed as Standard, and whether that relates to the damage model - and asking whether anyone with the game could comment authoritatively.

If it's Standard, same as all the other standard models, then so be it, no wishful thinking on my part. Just strikes me, and presumably a lot of other people, as odd, shortsighted even, that a car that came out after GT5P would be modelled entirely to GT4 / GTPSP quality levels.
 
i think its a fair reason to vote no, its why i voted no, otherwise the question turns into "should every car be premium?". the other option is that this be a petition rather than a poll

Weswelker made it quite clear that preferences aside, it should be based on whether or not the car has been important enough to the motor industry to be premium. Not I like it and it should be or visa versa. Imo it has been a significant figure in the industry and should be premium.
And you think it's a good reason? because of people using it online, what about zonda r's online or enzo's online...
 
Weswelker made it quite clear that preferences aside, it should be based on whether or not the car has been important enough to the motor industry to be premium. Not I like it and it should be or visa versa. Imo it has been a significant figure in the industry and should be premium.
And you think it's a good reason? because of people using it online, what about zonda r's online or enzo's online...

i dont like it because its just an experiment in how fast can we go and something i dont aspire to ever driving myself so i have very little interest in it in the game

i said i didnt like it, never said why i didnt like it, i was replying to your comment of not liking it isnt reason enough to vote no, my reasons have nothing to do with online play(it was the previous person that said that), its with the car itself, which i thought was good enough reason to vote no
That was necessary:tdown: don't like it don't comment. Have an opinion by all means but that is again no reason to vote no, just because you don't like the car.
 
**** the Veyron. I'm glad its standard so I don't have to see its fat ugly ass parading on every track when I go Online to race.

That was necessary:tdown: don't like it don't comment. Have an opinion by all means but that is again no reason to vote no, just because you don't like the car.

i think its a fair reason to vote no, its why i voted no, otherwise the question turns into "should every car be premium?". the other option is that this be a petition rather than a poll

His reason was due to online play and everyone using it and you said 'I think it's a fair reason to vote no, it's why I voted no.' Thus making your reason for voting no the same as his, which was online play. Unless you worded it wrong?
 
my reason for voting no was i didnt like it. i didnt mention why. i quoted your reply in my post not his. if you had said that the online side was not reason enough to vote no then i would have replied differently. but you said word for word "that is again no reason to vote no, just because you don't like the car." think weve just gotten our wires crossed.

im happy just to leave it, i voted no for my reasons and thats what a poll is for, opinions, however they're made and whatever they'rebased on
 
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my reason for voting no was i didnt like it. i didnt mention why. i quoted your reply in my post not his. if you had said that the online side was not reason enough to vote no then i would have replied differently

really dont care tbh and wont be back in this thread

Basically his reason was online and I didn't agree with that decision, weswelker as it happens doesn't think either is a good reason to vote no because he wanted it based on it's status and not it's fans and haters, and it's his thread... You have your opinion, I have mine. This is an episode that could have been avoided but oh well :sly:

Agreed PSN gamer.
 
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So does this mean I won't be able to put different wheels on it and buy it an aero kit? Oh well I can still paint it hot pink, right? lol

Seriously though, it's a helluva car and easily in the top 20% of interesting cars for most car nuts. It's Ms. January in tons of supercar calendars. I'm personally not terribly interested in it, and I'm noticing an awful lot of other forum members are on my side, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be a premium car.

Call me clairvoyant, but I predict online will devolve into about 20% of the total users driving Veyrons and trying to punt me off the track at every corner. (insert Integra joke here)
 
Of course the Veyron should been modeled as Premium !!!!! I was the gratest car of the last 15 years

^ I presume it came out too late to be modelled? Just a guess.

Yea??? But they had time to model the Ford mustang that won the contest last week.. :dopey:
 
^ I presume it came out too late to be modelled? Just a guess.

The game's been delayed a lot and they had so much time on their hands to do anything they wanted, I don't see how they couldn't get to include the Veyron SS in the game. Well at least give us a premium Bugatti Veyron but even that is standard!! :indiff:
 
No i'd rather see some more street cars/sports cars as premiums as this type of car doesnt do it for me, probably for the fact it would be unrealistic for me to ever own one - maybe even see one !

However I can understand why a lot of people would want this as a premium car.
 
No i'd rather see some more street cars/sports cars as premiums as this type of car doesnt do it for me, probably for the fact it would be unrealistic for me to ever own one - maybe even see one !

However I can understand why a lot of people would want this as a premium car.

While it's realistic to own a VW bus from the 60's and use it for racing on Nurburgring, amirite? :P Seriously it's a game;the whole point is to do things which you can't even dream of doing in real life.
 
While it's realistic to own a VW bus from the 60's and use it for racing on the Nurburgring, amirite? :P Seriously it's a game;the whole point is to do things which you can't even dream of doing in real life.

Agree with this point also. Still, going to have to get used to roof cam as well as cockpit cam pretty quickly.
 

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